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reply posted on 21-6-2004 @ 04:53 PM by heelstone
Tell us what you know. Insane or not, all evidence must be presented.



reply posted on 21-6-2004 @ 05:58 PM by unusedpheonix
it doesnt matter one bit what my experiences are without physical evidence. All the skeptics can continue to live in ignorance of whats happening all around us.
without evidence, its pointless to even talk about it, and I dont feel motivated to talk about it, unless I have the evidence to prove it. And yes it is stressful, like being mentally raped everytime they put that thing to my head, and it feels like some buzzing popping sledge hammer inbetween my eyes.
I dont understand how talking about everylittle tiny detail is going to make me feel better about the fact. Would you like to go into every detail of being raped? its an expereince that is bearable at most, but why bother talking endlessly about it without the evidence first?


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posted on 21-6-2004 at 05:33 PM
While you are abducted, are you paralysed?

yes, until we stand in line, by that time everybodys a zombie.

Can you move around freely? NO

Do they show you things?
only what I see in front of me

How do their craft look like?
I dont know if its a craft.. Its a data gathering place, dark, black, except for certian periods. dont even see sometimes...just feel it, like a dentist working on your numb mouth. I guess the greys dont need too much light

How do they look like? Can they understand you, or reverse, can you understand them, and if so, what do they say?

No sound, its all internal, buzzing, clicks, whooshing, wavy type sounds.electrical .like being inside a thick liquid, like the air is too thick for sound. all the claims about spiritual communication is illusion and wishful thinking..you are there for one thing only..data gathering

Write each experience down to each specific detail. Most people do forget after a period of time, but writing it down may proove useful later in life.

I will never forget, ever, its of no use to anybody until I get evidence
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This may sound offensive, I'm sorry to say, but have you had yourself examined? Are you often stressed and etc? The first thing to do to proove yourself that your mind isn't lying is to get examined, really. I, for one, would.

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Yes I have been examined, I am normal except for the narcolepsy and a thing called Avoidant personality disorder..which is just a anti social phobia, other than that I am normal and know the difference and importance between subjective and objective expereince, reason and logic, rational thinking...
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"Extra ordinary claims require extraordinary Evidence"...we could talk about it for days but its all pointless without the evidence.



reply posted on 21-6-2004 @ 06:42 PM by sisonek
unusedphoenix:

have you considered this strategy for getting physical evdence:

you and your wife are narcoleptic so you've got easy access to antinarcolepsy meds -- if you're like other narcoleptics i know you've probably got a fair amount of provigil or cylert around already -- and i'd imagine that your wife would be able to stay awake all night on those if she needed to. why not get your wife to use those to stay awake next time she wakes up and you're not there, and then stay awake until you get brought back?

even if they do something to force her back unconscious when they're bringing you back, the fact that she probably shouldn't be able to fall asleep if she's just taken some provigil/cylert is indirect physical evidence that something unusual is going on.

also, while your wife's up she'll probably have time to set up some hidden cameras around your house -- webcams, videocameras, whatever you can get access to -- and maybe you'll get lucky: i'm imaging that whoever does abductions is pretty careful when they're taking you out, but they might get careless when they're bringing you back, if you see what i'm saying; they might be expecting you to try to film them when they come get you, etc., but then just assume when they're bringing you back that nothing's changed since then.

if this strategy works you'll probably get some physical evidence. to be even more sure i'd have your wife try not only setting up cameras and such but also try to set things up so you'll know if any windows have been opened. for example, if you cut some really thin strips of newspaper out and tape them to your closed windows and doors in out-of-the-way places -- places people aren't likely to look, but where the papers will rip if the door or window is opened -- then you'll know something opened that door if after you're back some of the papers are ripped. the reason to use newspaper is to make it hard for anyone to fix the rip if they notice this plan: if all the strips come from a particular article from like a week-old paper, you can put the article back together in the morning and see if any of the strips are "wrong", and if the paper's a week old whoever's abducting you will have a hell of a time finding it in time to make a perfect replacement, if you see what i'm saying.

none of these strategies may work, and none of them are as good of physical evidence as bringing back something from your abduction may be, but they MAY work and if they did work then you'd have SOME physical evidence, especially if the hidden cameras caught anything.

one other thing: i can think of at least one reason why it's worth talking about your experiences. most people who think they've been abducted can barely remember the experience and feel like their memories of their abduction have been wiped or replaced with "screen" memories. apparently their memory cleaning procedure doesn't work on you -- maybe because of something related to your narcolepsy, for example -- but if you can describe at all how they (try to) administer the memory cleaning to you it might give us clues as to possible ways to counteract it. in the long run, that might be really helpful at getting to the bottom of all this for a lot of abductees.

so although getting physical evidence would make it easier to get other people to believe you, there's still some use to talking about your experiences now: you'll be taken seriously here, and the unique qualities of your experiences -- that the memory wiping doesn't seem to work on you -- might be really helpful to a lot of other people in similar situations.

so, if you want to give it, a description of how they administer or try to administer to memory cleaning could be really, really useful. some questions about it: is there any physical apparatus associated with it, like some kind of machine? can you tell when they're trying to wipe your memory, or is it just something you've figured out isn't happening for you?

how does their paralysis work -- is it just something that happens or is there any kind of device or physical feeling associated with it?

some other questions:

do you remember your abductions from beginning to end, or just pieces of them? if you remember them from start to finish, what's the typical sequence? if you only remember pieces, are there some parts of them you usually remember and some parts you don't? which parts?

you mention making everyone stand in line. how many people are there, typically? do you see the same people over and over? do you have any idea if they're there for similar or different reasons than you -- in other words, do you have any sense if they're there for different experiments than you are?

in any case, i hope my advice is helpful, and thanks for sharing so far.


reply posted on 21-6-2004 @ 08:15 PM by popeye0314
Hey, unusedphoenix


Hold your thoughts. You are so on to something its not funny.

My grandpa on my dads side was a full narcleptic, skip a generation to me and something weird happened. The only narcleptic symptoms I have are cataplexy and "disturbed REM sleep"
So for those that don't know, Narcolepsy messes with the sleeping function of the brain, like Sleep Paralysis and false wakenings. Such are complex science that doctors cant explain it, so they just prescibe uppers to get you to be exausted when you go to sleep.
I had sleep studies done about ten years ago to find out why I was experiencing strange dreams, and after thousands of dollars and three nights in the hospital all they could tell me was that my brain hit REM sleep after 7 minutes of rest. So I am awake when my body goes into REM. Lots of people think that its your mind that sleeps, but its really your body.
So you lay down to sleep and get that kinda sleep vibe that some relate to oobe, maybe you feel something on your bed like little foot steps, but being used to these annoyonces you allow them to creep closer. They think they are being slick, but you haven't functioned the way you are suppose to. Your brain is still ticking away and you know that they are there. As they reach your face you notice a tingling sensation on different parts of your body, and a strange feeling of dizziness like sleep was fighting to control you. Needless to say sleep loses and as you are transferred from one place to another you remain awake and aware of your surroundings. Sometimes you are more cognetive than others and at your best you can see and hear and feel all that goes on. Sometimes a hospital with long hallways and sometimes strange rooms with a lot of other people. If you try to run they just gang up on you and if you just lay there you have to deal with the mental torment of being worked on. No matter how hard you try, you cant seem to find any real evidence of what happened. To say the least you feel that there is nothing you can do, because their technology is to superior and all you have is your own mind, and sometimes that seems like it is failing you. After years of the same thing you have been through every possible train of thought. Aliens, demons, the matrix idea and to every end you cant explain nor have anyone else understand what you are saying. Tell a friend and they say "wow, what a weird dream" and you know its time to go along with the dream idea.
Wish I had answers for you, but at least your not alone. Im glad your wife is with you and can understand your situation. Ive tried every gammet of rekoning know to man. Once I held a bible, and they just grapped it and laughed, and said "he thinks his god can do anything..ha, ha, ha.." I have found shelter in Jesus, though its not easy to hold on to a faith when everything you thought would protect you fails. The breakthrough I had was in psalms 23: The lord is my shepard, I shall not want....... Thats probably not what you wanted to hear, but they dont laugh anymore. Hey, if you every see a dude running down the hallway, and knocking the crap out of a bunch of these things, I hope you say Hi and maybe we can work together. Shalom........
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