Your perfect government - What would it look like?

So no-one likes what we have in America now, except those who have something to lose. And they seem to be dwindling in numbers everyday.

It trully is anarcy and survival of the fittest.

So what kind of government would you like to see replace it?

A) A minimalist form of government, just go away form of government, as set forth by the founding fathers

B) A semi-socialist capitalist oligarchy that revolves around anarchy and survival of the fittest

C) A socialist form of government that regulates all forms of commerce

D) Something else

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Well the Anarchist in me would say exactly what I see in the mirror.

The libertarian in me would say the federal government would be stripped backed to EXACTLY what is enumerated in the Constitution.

No agencies or czars running things on color of law legislation created by the blatant misrepresentation of the welfare clause. Also any other blatant misrepresentations.

The states would be able to decide on their own directions. That way I would have 50 choices of differing types of freedoms and securities.

That would be my perfect government.

Consitutional Law. You know, THE LAW.

We are either a country of men or of laws, I choose to trust law, not the men we have in government.

For the ladies out there, I meant man as the homogenous human definition, no offense.

While not perfect, as can be seen in some of its clauses, I do truly believe the Constitution to be the closest to what man and States could agree upon.

The problem with the Constitution, or rather the problem with humans is that we all have our ideals and views upon the world. If we are to follow such a document as the Constitution, we must not infringe upon another just because we disagree with their view upon the world.

Here is where it gets murky. Me, I believe in culture, borders and language (I know, I know, a certain talk host says the same, but the idea is not original so do not equate me with him).

I believe that the United States of America does have a culture. We have a culture that believes in the rule of law. That while we all live in the same area, we are individuals, beset to make our decisions. Yet, we know that if we seek our neighbor in a time of need, they will respond. We believe that having pride in your country is not a bad thing, but could turn into one, as exhibited by the Nazis. That we have had our licks, but rather than bemoan them, we recognize them, honor them and understand the importance in our youth learning about such. Our culture embodies what a human is about. It is seeing that which we do not like, yet over time and understanding, through logical debate, most of the fringe attitudes are accepted.

The perfect government would be almost nonexistent. Its function would be defense (not offense) and infrastructure.

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Double post.

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It would look...DEAD!!!!! There would be no government, more of small little city- state/village leaders, but with open city hall council meetings. And they'd run out of town all the fat thugs sitting on welfare until they went back to their country of origin. And it would take care of the ones who did work and no longer can, the handicapped and the elderly ONLY!!!!

D. Something Else


I would prefer the federal government only do what is authorized in the US Constitution and this includes regulating trade (Sorry Libertarians!).

That is how our country is supposed to collect its revenue, from a tariff that is establish only as the difference in labor costs between our country and country X. But I think the states should be allowed to do whatever they like.

Judges should not be allowed to weigh in on things such as abortion, gay marriage, school prayer, etc... It should be left up to a referendum by a state. If a state wants to do racial segregation again then it should be held to a referendum in said state, then it is up to the people to uphold their civil rights. But the Federal Government should never permit anything like that because the constitution strictly says all are equal.

So basically a Decentralized Constitutional Republic, like our nation was intended to be. But states should be allowed to have a welfare state, high taxes or whatever else they want or don't want.

Try checking this out

Constitution Party on Government

and

Constitution Party Platform

Also check this out

Paleoconservatism
American School(economics)

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i think the governemnet shold almost be like a lawyer, and only provide 3rd party advice, and possibly decision making when it comes to individual arguements or disagreements. In other words, we should be able to do what we want, but if me and my neighbor have a dispute, the gov comes in and heres the 2 arguements and then comes to a fair compromise.

Im sure theres more that would need to be involved, but they should just be 3rd party that helps citizens agree and live peacefully.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust
So no-one likes what we have in America now, except those who have something to lose. And they seem to be dwindling in numbers everyday.

It trully is anarcy and survival of the fittest.

So what kind of government would you like to see replace it?

A) A minimalist form of government, just go away form of government, as set forth by the founding fathers

B) A semi-socialist capitalist oligarchy that revolves around anarchy and survival of the fittest

C) A socialist form of government that regulates all forms of commerce

D) Something else

Ideally, I would like to have a government that is moderate. A government that is at the equilibrium. I think in this world, it is the only place to be.

But it really depends on the situation of the country.

Government is an extension of those it governs, namely people.

Government structure has changed as people changed.

I will rather speak of perfect participents of a civilized habitat.

Perfect government arises as perfect people arises

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It will be based on Meritocracy. This is what the real Illuminati wants and are fighting hard for it for millenniums but the old world made it look like they are a threat to us.

Why do you think Genghis khan was so successful, as he picked generals by talent, not birth, blood, family etc even picked enemy generals.

Look it up its more of an ideology then government.

Regards, Naeem

I'm not American, but my perfect government would be as socially liberal as pragmatically possible. Economically it would be centrist to centre left, with the environment as a priority and a basic minimum standard of living (and equality of opportunity) for all who want it.

that is the easy question I have ever seen here at ATS.
Now if My ideal government was GLOBAL then It would be The best one EVER.
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now you have to admit no one can argue with that

my ideal goverment would use a form of direct democracy to make decisions with independent country wide and region specific systems. administration of the decisions made would be pperformed by elected commites that would dispand emidietly after the completion of a project. the only permenent institution would be a combined deffence/law enfourcment and regulatory body. law would be based initialy off a new constitution and added upon by vote or common law precedent. ultimately I would like to see it as part of an anachocommunist ideology.

Anarchy (from ἀναρχίᾱ anarchíā, "without ruler") may refer to any of the following: * "No rulership or enforced authority."

That is what i wish.

Well, it would have ME as the hedgmon of course.

Aside from that it would be local. Representatives would be drafted from the populace. Levels of influence would be limited by population with no region exceeding a certain amount. That is not control of population, only level of representative influence.. err if that makes any sense.. sovreign counties! as population grows, a new county is formed. there is a lot of land.

Also it would be a technological-education-resource co-op based conglomeration of "counties" - big communes? Not quite true communism, but certainly not money based. Incentives for education and scientific advancement. SHARING - not SECRECY. Competition would be encouraged but everyone would have access to all available knowlegde and resources, to collaborate on ideas and ADVANCEMENT OF THE SPIECIES... not seeing who can kick a ball for a million euro.. yeah.. something like that.. anyway this paradigm is all wrong and im rambling.. ciao 4 now.. RDDS

en.wikipedia.org...

Geniocracy is the framework for a system of government which was first proposed by Rael (leader of the International Raëlian Movement) in 1977 and which advocates problem-solving and creative intelligence as criteria for regional governance.[1]

The term geniocracy comes from the word 'Genius' and proposes a system that is designed to select for intelligence and compassion as the primary factor for governance. While having a democratic electoral apparatus, it differs from traditional liberal democracy by instead suggesting that candidates for office and the body electorate should meet a certain minimal criterion of problem-solving or creative intelligence. The thresholds proposed by the Raëlians are 50% above the mean for an electoral candidate and 10% above the mean for an elector.[1]

My ideal state would be based on classical liberalism or social libertarianism coupled with some form of geniocracy for elections, and maximum transparency - every information or government purchasing would have to be be publicly available on the net for citizen review

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There is no such thing as a perfect government. We don't need government.

To live outside of government rule requires you to live outside of yourself. Anarchy only exist in chaos, not order and discipline.

I'll take D. A monarchy.



If we can not live by the law.

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I can't watch the video right now. Are you advocating a theocracy?