The NY Mosque Controversy. Summed Up In One Picture.

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posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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reply to post by tothetenthpower
 


S&F for you, not much else to say really. The rest of the world is looking at that debate and feels like bitch slapping the US. Seriously, with all the problems they're facing, THAT'S one of the major issues too?

Politics in the US wants to make you puke, it's nothing but cheap slogans and faith based brainwashing to control the masses.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!




posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower


It's of kind of self evident, perhaps a little too opinionated, but this is certainly how I am viewing this non issue.

Thoughts?

~Keeper

[edit on 9/3/2010 by tothetenthpower]


There weren't many drug dealers or strippers involved in 9/11. You'r comparison fails the test.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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Ya, except there probably weren't that many Muslims either!

For all we know a stripper was responsible for the whole thing, maybe even a drug dealer. Maybe Chaney got all tore up one night, out of his mind, and there is some video of it that exists. Maybe someone called him up and said the towers need to come down, and we want it blamed on the Muslims?


Ya, I know, not likely, but it is equally unlikely that some amateur pilots made acrobatic turns and made direct hits on buildings that subsequently fell down against all odds, and destroyed every shred of evidence, except for immaculately preserved Muslim passports and cheap box cutters.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:33 AM
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What is wrong with strippers and porn shops?

When is the last time a stripper blew up a bunch of women and children in a market square?

When is the last time a stripper killed a school girl for daring to go to school?

If the people wanting to build the mosque had any moral decency at all, they would have dropped the project when it became obvious that it was a bad idea, being that so many people objected.

Maybe his 8 year old wife had just filed for divorce?



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:37 AM
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Maybe you morality hypocrites might consider this to be why.

www.voanews.com...



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b

Maybe you morality hypocrites might consider this to be why.

www.voanews.com...


Aspiring to be better than those who would call me enemy is not hypocrisy. It is character.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Acid_Burn2009

When we arrived at our destination (Town hall where the monument will be erected and unveiled on 9/11) there was a small ceremony. A Minister said a few prayers and blessed the i-beam with holy water.


Soo many things wrong about this...but lets start

1) the golden calf I-Beam is NOT a holy nor blessed object...its just a object...icon worship is bad, m-kay

2) Did some jewish rabbi's get to do their blessings over it? Did muslims get to do their blessings? Buddists get to meditate on this holy I-Beam? Pagans do whatever they do? I guess it is just a christian I-beam then...a christian icon..yay for radical religious activities at ground zero...I don't see anything going wrong with that...after all, religious overtones in actions produces only positive results (can we say...irony)

Here is the deal...the offical story shows that it was a bunch of saudi arabians being fueled and funded by extremist religious groups...the extremist religious groups get their money from oil...
I suggest it is a bane of the honor and sacred land of ground zero to have any carparks or streets housing automobiles that use oil...also, any oil based products should never be used against the new ground zero deity as it may become angry..

America...land of the free...unless your brownish, or not christian, or the wrong political party, or some weirdo, or...



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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A better person would have dropped the idea of the project, when so many people objected.

Insisting on doing something which pisses a lot of people off, and not thinking that you are creating enemies is stupid.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:55 AM
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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. I watched I-beams glitter in the Holy Water near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die."

I for one welcome the new I-Beam Overlord. All Hail I-Beam the merciful! I-Beam the just! Let us offer our I-Beam overlord a sacrifice!



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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Just like strippers weren't responsible, neither were the general Muslim public.

What you are saying is like stating just because Timothy McVeigh was Christian and bombed that building, you now can't have Christian churches close to that government building.

It's a very narrow minded and illogical statement to make...

Just because certain media is portraying most Muslims as bad people doesn't mean they are. The average Muslim had NOTHING to do with 911, in fact, most of them had nothing to do with it and don't agree with the tactics used.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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No, I am pointing out that a cartoon showing stripper bars and a porn shop in proximity to the WTC site, and the proposed Mosque, are hypocrites because they are casting moral judgment on strip joints and porn shops.

Here is a deal, they can build the mosque, if we can open stripper bars and porn shops in Mecca.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b

No, I am pointing out that a cartoon showing stripper bars and a porn shop in proximity to the WTC site, and the proposed Mosque, are hypocrites because they are casting moral judgment on strip joints and porn shops.

Here is a deal, they can build the mosque, if we can open stripper bars and porn shops in Mecca.



So you're only willing to respect liberties and freedom if other countries do so as well? That too doesn't seem logical too me...and would mean the US doesn't respect liberties and freedoms in a lot of cases. It would mean all Chinese restaurants had to close as well, or you couldn't wear any Nike clothes and shoes.

You have no right to dictate how people in another country live...you might disagree, but you can't really dictate how they should live. And I'm surprised at how quickly you're willing to throw overboard core values on which the US was founded...

Speaking out against this mosque and Muslims means you're a bigot because you're clearly blaming all Muslims for what happened. By not building that mosque, Muslims would admit guilt...and they're just NOT guilty of anything. You can't blame an entire people for the actions of a few extremists. If you could, I'd say all Christians are child rapists...I hope you see how silly that would be.

PS: I got nothing against strip joints either


[edit on 3-9-2010 by MrXYZ]



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:12 AM
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Good post OP. There truly is a lot of hatred & ignorance in America and unfortunately that hatred will be the death of America unless people wake up.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
Here is a deal, they can build the mosque, if we can open stripper bars and porn shops in Mecca.



you can try, but chances are they are going to deny that...and probably execute you should you try.

now, you can complain that if they do that, why cant we not allow a mosque in this area....

The answer is simple...we as a advanced civilization do not mimic the behavior of lesser cultures. You want to feel "better" than the wacky people in the middle east or anywhere else in the world that infringes on freedom...then support the building.

Its now about going down to meet other cultures on their level, its about standing where you are and having other cultures admire our level...
Yes, we can have porn shops, strip bars, and mosques right next to each other without kicking up a fuss, because we are cool like that...and its why people still from other countries admire the western nations in general...not because we reject peoples freedoms, but because even when its a crappy idea, we allow it anyhow.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b

No, I am pointing out that a cartoon showing stripper bars and a porn shop in proximity to the WTC site, and the proposed Mosque, are hypocrites because they are casting moral judgment on strip joints and porn shops.

Here is a deal, they can build the mosque, if we can open stripper bars and porn shops in Mecca.



Mecca makes no claim to be tolerant or "free." They do not abide by our Constitution. There is no hypocrisy involved. Our entire nation is built on the foundation of religious freedom and equal opportunity.

We make plenty of mistakes as individuals, and as a nation, but we have to strive to uphold the ideals that made us what we are. I don't expect the ruling elite of the Muslim faith to act the same way that I would, and I refuse to be less tolerant, just because they are. I will continue to take the high road as much as possible.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:19 AM
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By not building that mosque, Muslims would admit guilt...and they're just NOT guilty of anything.


Not at all. I think that by NOT building this mosque, the people who want to build the mosque would be showing that they respect the wishes of the people of NY, and the U.S..

Building this mosque is only fanning the flames of hatred.

Is that smart, or is that stupid?



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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By not building that mosque, Muslims would admit guilt...and they're just NOT guilty of anything.


Not at all. I think that by NOT building this mosque, the people who want to build the mosque would be showing that they respect the wishes of the people of NY, and the U.S..

Building this mosque is only fanning the flames of hatred.

Is that smart, or is that stupid?



But the people who are against that mosque are fools, their opinion is based on falsehoods on media-supported fear mongering. Someone has to point that out!

And you know well enough that it's not only about the mosque in NYC, there's a ton of other places in the US where people are now protesting the construction of mosques. How far away from 9/11 should they be allowed to build a mosque, tell me


It's simple really, in my opinion, if you're against the mosque, you bought into the fear mongering of shills like Beck&Co and someone has to WAKE YOU UP!



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:25 AM
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I think a lot of people are of the religious belief that we should not tolerate Islam.

Don't you think we should respect their religious beliefs as well?



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:25 AM
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After considerable thought.

Here it is...my 2 cents.

What better way to surveil , monitor and catalogue terrorists then orchistrate a mega mosque at the site of one of thier attacks. I say make the mosque huge , call them in from all over the world and just sit back and collect the intel. Itll be easier than chasing them all over hells half acre, and itll make it alot easier when we decide to round em up and sterilize them.

This mosque is actually a brilliant plan by the US. I love it. Come all women beating jew and christian hating, American murdering Muslim fundies. You get a mega-mosque to symbolize your victory(its even going to be called the Cordoba or something, do your research on that). What better symbollism than for the new Muslim monitoring service to be at the site of what they consider a victory. I just cant believe they are falling for it. This is the sweetest counter attack by the US ever.

Deny Ignornance!!!



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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The other mosque that was already there really doesnt factor into this debate. In fact if its so dang close why build another? The topless bars and what not....well youll have that.






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