Why He Was Different

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


Nothing wrong with your belief, but it is not Christianity (which was the point I made to the OP -- he's welcome to his beliefs, but holding beliefs which are contrary to a universal doctrine places you outside of that faith.)

Doctrines are an attempt to define aspects of faith. As Christ's divine nature is a core belief, as his testimony is that he was God, and as another core belief is that there is only one God, the Doctrine of the Trinity is a critical component of Christianity.

If you do not believe that Christ was divine, or if you believe that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all separate and distinct entities, resulting in polytheism, you are welcome to hold those beliefs, but you are not a Christian.

reply to post by adjensen


Who defines the doctrines if not man?

And who defines if one is or is not a christian, a follower or not a follower of the Messiah's teachings, but you here, who is equally only a man?

Thus, am I to believe in the misinterpretations of man or in the words of our Creator and His divine teachers sent?

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by adjensen

 

Who defines the doctrines if not man?

And who defines if one is or is not a christian, a follower or not a follower of the Messiah's teachings, but you here, who is equally only a man?

Thus, am I to believe in the misinterpretations of man or in the words of our Creator and His divine teachers sent?

Faith is a personal connection to God.

Religion is a communal connection to God.

Theology is an intellectual connection to God.

You are welcome to your own point of view on any of these, but as religion (which is what encompasses the aspect of doctrine) is a component of community, if you reject the doctrine, you reject the community and the religion.

Simple as that. If you wish to read the scripture and come to an alternative conclusion of Christ's divinity, that is up to you, but you cannot claim to be a Christian, because that is a fundamental component of Christianity. (This is not to argue that this doctrine is correct, although I think so, obviously, but merely to argue that categorization.)

The benefit of "believing in the misinterpretations of man" is that they are less likely to be misinterpretations than the things that you might come up with, in that they've been subjected to centuries of analysis and thought by thousands of theologians and scholars, whereas we all run the risk of simply reading what we want to read if we go it alone.

Even your definations of connections to our Creator defies logic

1. Faith, religion and theology - which is more important to you? From this question will one knows what kind of 'christian' you truly are.

2. Religion as a communal connection means that you agree to the consensus view of a faith. Nothing wrong in that system, as no one holds all the answers and best questions be debated and discuss amongst the faithful.

However, who decides, declares and claims its views are the correct one and should be adopted? Man or some human who claimed divine connection, and then dictatorially demand conformity or excommunication?

3. Intellectual connection comes from faith, not the interpretations or misinterpretations by scholars who claim centuries of debates. Even a child can know and comprehend our Creator's messages. It had been a simple message to mankind, made more so by divine teachers sent, and none of the prophets had even any scholarly education status to speak of. Our Creator needed no man made intelligence and such hubris to help guide mankind.

You are merely making the mistakes that the church authorites had done back in the middle ages by denying the common masses from reading the Bible. Only priests were allowed to teach and read from it, and through their narrow views were the words from our Creator misinterpretated

Not only that, it became a means to control the serfs by the elites of those societies. Misinterpretations were rife, even with your so called 'thousands of scholars' dissections through the centuries.

Today, we are educated enough to understand the words of the scriptures. There are questions still, but religion is a leap of faith, a personal journey between man and his Creator. The words written were for him, a guide and a path to follow with the free will he had been gifted with.

It applies to each and every educated person, and whatever that was written, it will the same path for all of them. Some will be slower, some will stray and wander off, but many whom understand what our Creator is speaking, will ultimately end up following that wise guided path.

Any other clown who claims divinity or the right of divinity to make demands from the pulpit to a fellowship of religious faithful is a blasphemor.and to be avoided.

Please let not my effort go to waste, my brother, and re-read the bible and make that personal re-connection with our Creator, for no matter what or how you define your faith or whatever faiths, you are still and always my brother by divine Creation so long as you had not turn into a beast.