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Update! Officer challenging Obama's eligibility can't see evidence

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posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 08:40 AM
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I think as in the case with all birther threads, reality takes a flying leap out the window.

If birther threads were anomalies of the laws of physics they would be black holes of ignorance. Truth goes in and is crushed by the enormous force of the ignorance of the birthers.

See, this is exactly why when some moronic part of the conspiracy is completely debunked, birthers have the ability to ignore that and post the same lies over and over again.

I think in fact moderators and the admin are even powerless against the enormous force of ignorance that is the birther conspiracy, and whenever a birther black hole of ignorance opens up, they can only sit in awe of the shear density of ignorance and absurdity that comprise these threads.




posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
Clearly there is a segment of the population who wants to know the truth.


We all want the truth. It's just that some of us believe what has been presented and some don't. We have NO LEGAL RIGHT to access those documents. NONE. Unless someone has EVIDENCE that indicates Obama was foreign born, we can't just go rummaging through a citizen's private papers in hopes of coming across something incriminating. That's the law.

Read this carefully:

If your neighbor is charged with killing your child, he can't go to court and say, "Yes, I killed the child - because I suspect he is trespassing and eating the apples from my tree. I demand the court prove otherwise." If you did that, the court would NOT be obligated to prove to you that the child was NOT eating the apples!

The court's not going to care about your neighbor's justification for killing your child and they're not going to permit evidence relating to your child's trespassing past or ANYTHING about your family. Your neighbor is on trial for killing your child. Your child is NOT on trial for trespassing.

That's how crazy these claims being made by birthers are. That's how INSANE Lakin's attempt here was. That's how much you guys don't understand the law.

Lakin is on military trial for disobeying an order. He's the DEFENDANT. He can't just say, "Hey, judge, while we're here, can I turn this trial into a prosecution against a third party and bring him into court"? The thought is absolutely LUDICROUS! And would make a sham of our court system!

[edit on 9/5/2010 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 08:55 AM
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My word a hint of desperation on this board as the defenders of the Indonesian President Soetoro come out in force.
Try googling Barry Soetoro.
At my last count there were some 161,000 entries.
Amazing for someone we have been constantly told by the Soetoro drones on this board does not exist.
Perhaps and rightly Mr Lakim saw those some 161,000 entries and the devastaing information within them and decided, rightly, that he needed confirmation as to the legitimacy of the so-called Commander in chief.
Now he has been denied his right to discovery, so he can know the status of the person occupying the White House and acting in the role of Commander in Chief.
Denying what is his legal right the judge comments that the information would be 'embarrassing' to the President.
Thats putting it politely. Embarrassing to the entire Washington establishment particularly Pelosi and Co who have participated in the Soetoro charade ever since he was made a candidate, clearly without vetting of any kind.
Mr Lakim is a man denied justice because of ''embarrassment'?
Pray tell us Derek what is so embarrassing in those records in your view.
Or did the judge never say that either?



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Emilymary
Try googling Barry Soetoro.
At my last count there were some 161,000 entries.


Now google barack obama and you get 162 million hits......
google obama president and you get 313 million hits....



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by Emilymary
Mr Lakim is a man denied justice because of ''embarrassment'?
Pray tell us Derek what is so embarrassing in those records in your view.
Or did the judge never say that either?


No, the judge never said that, either..

Read my post Here

I know sources and evidence don't mean anything to you, but if you're curious, you can find out about it there.



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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Derek have you no sublety.
Barry Soetoro you tell us does not exist yet still has 161,000 entries on google.
Barack Obama is supposedly an existent individual so its hardly surprising he has millions of entries.
Can you not see the point - plainly not.
I am not surprised actually.
I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale......



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Emilymary
Barry Soetoro you tell us does not exist


There you go again, telling lies. Exactly where did I say Barry Soetoro did not exist? I never said that, so you lied once again!

When will you stop telling lies?



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 09:28 AM
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Then who, derek, do you think Barry Soetoro is if not the Indonesian in the White House?
I have been checking out all those googles for Barack Obama.
On examination not prettty.
Link barack Obama to fraud and its 181,000
Try it with bogus 176,000
Illegal 176,000
Corrupt goes up a bit at 215,000.
Murder up again 218,000.
Sex wow!! 260,000, link it with Larry Sinclair and its a measly 214,000.
Want some more. Sort of takes the shine off him I think.
No wonder Mr Lakim wants answers.



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by Emilymary
Barry Soetoro you tell us does not exist yet still has 161,000 entries on google.


Santa Claus has 11 million hits.



Originally posted by Emilymary
Then who, derek, do you think Barry Soetoro is if not the Indonesian in the White House?


That's the name his stepfather used for him. You know how men are... always pasting their last name on everyone around them.
There's no indication that Barack Obama ever changed his name.



I have been checking out all those googles for Barack Obama.
On examination not prettty.


Do you get all your information from blogs and google? Never mind. The answer is clear. If it's on the google, it must be true. I get it.



No wonder Mr Lakim wants answers.


It's "Lakin" not "lakim". But what's in a name, right?



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 09:53 AM
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...so you're using google search results (global search results, mind you) to prove that Barack Obama is ineligible for POTUS?


I fail to follow this logically...perhaps you can enlighten me?



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 10:31 AM
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Snarf you have not been following....



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 11:14 AM
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We can't be serious.. Google hits are now the standard of proof?




hmmm.. maybe there's something to it after all.



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 11:35 AM
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My word such childish silly little pranks.

The truth is certainly starting to hurt when you are reduced to that.
Good.

Can't take your God, Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Obama impostor, being exposed.
Well get used to it. He will be.
Know the latest - issued a new executive order to change the goal posts re Mr Lakim.
He is getting worried when you see that total abuse of power.



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Emilymary
Know the latest - issued a new executive order to change the goal posts re Mr Lakim.


I don't think Emilymary can see my posts,
but the changes put forth in Executive Order 13552 to the Manual for Courts Martial were proposed in December of 2008 by George Bush and have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Lakin.

The changes to the manual are regarding fines, defining military property, charges of manslaughter, larceny, wrongful appropriation, limits of jurisdiction over civilians and assault on children.

Also, the changes don't take effect until the end of September:



These amendments shall take effect 30 days from the date of this
order.


Source

Even the Birthers Know This Isn't About Lakin

That's a NativeBornCitizen Wordpress Source... Birthers.



The executive order includes proposed Amendments from Dec 29, 2008. That’s all folks… Another myth laid to rest.



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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Oh dear more fibbing!!.

See Devvy Kidd below.

rense.com...

Just posted on in the last few hours.

Can you read the date?

My word there are some misleading propagandists on this thread.



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 12:59 PM
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As you can see, the DNC National Chairperson was none other than Nancy Pelosi. She was the one that Vetted Obama and sent out these forms to them.


LOL I had to laugh at that, because the idea of Pelosi vetting ANYONE is one of the scariest and entertaining thoughts ive had since Obama took office.....

Im not a birther, and I guess i dont have much to contribute to this thread, but i had to respond to that.....



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by Emilymary
Can you read the date?


The date that "Devvy" posted? Yeah. And?

I read the ACTUAL executive order AND the Sections that were changed (in the link above). Did you read it? Or was it too complex for you? A blog by someone named "Devvy" is more your speed for "accurate" information?

I think I'll believe the actual document over the words of "Devvy" whoever the hell that is.



My word there are some misleading propagandists on this thread.


You got that right!



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 01:01 PM
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Interesting point... why would the judge say that it might be an "embarrassment to the president"? What could be so embarrassing about producing documents especially if they proved he was a citizen? Of course many will say that the embarrassment would be because the president would be forced to do something he should not have to do.

Lots of Soetoro defenders here.



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by soleprobe
Interesting point... why would the judge say that it might be an "embarrassment to the president"?


Doesn't make sense, does it? That's because she didn't say that.


www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 01:12 PM
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Funny, the birthers are hateful, moronic, stupid....you pick the adjective, and yet it seems to be the Obama supporters with the vast majority of negative name calling responses........hmmmm, hate much? If you disagree, why insult people (t&c and all, or does that ony aply to some?), state your point and move along, just hanging out and insulting people really accomplishes nothing.........If you believe Barry was born here, good for you, if you believe he wasn't good for you as well.....no matter where he was born he's a class a failure, and for the military to do this is just beyond me, glad I did n't have to serrve under him, or I might be in the same position.

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