chemtrails : aerosol spraying & toxic fuel exhaust

reply to post by orazio


Good afternoon again orazio,

The video you provide has absolutely nothing, nada, zip tp do with "chemtrails".

He is referring to chaff.

Chaff

Chaff and flares are defensive mechanisms employed from military aircrafi to avoid detection and/or attack by adversary air defense systems. Chaff consists of small fibers that reflect radar signals and, when dispensed in large quantities from aircraft, form a cloud that temporarily hides the aircraft from radar detection. The two major types of military chaff in use are aluminum foil and aluminum-coated glass fibers. The aluminum foil-type is no longer manufactured, although it may still be in use.

Chaff in invisible to the naked eye, but not to radar.

Also, it's not weather modification.

So whats next?

reply to post by ZombieJesus


whats next you tell me? it is easy to dismiss something as a conspiracy theory and to stop right there and not consider the possibility.

[edit on 2-9-2010 by orazio]

reply to post by ZombieJesus


The weatherman and the source you referred obviously get there information from the US military... a trusted source to get information about chemtrails....

reply to post by orazio

whats next you tell me?

For starters...

Contrail Science

Then maybe...

Real Contrail Science, why they persist and why they spread out and why they are not chemtrails

Also, just in case you were under the impression that "chemtrails", or persistent contrails is a new phenomenon, here are some WW2 contrail pictures.

Thats just a start, but there is plenty more info out there.

Hope this helps

Originally posted by soleprobe
reply to post by ZombieJesus

 

The weatherman and the source you referred obviously get there information from the US military... a trusted source to get information about chemtrails....

Well, I don't recollect me or The Weatherman saying we approve of chaff, or that it's safe in any sense, or good for the planet, but chaff is not "chemtrails", you can rest assured of that...

Public and federal agencies concerned about the potentially harmful or undesirable effects of chaff on the environment

Also, just FYI, The Weatherman works for the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, not the US Military.

It is kind of crazy how the lines just spread out and stayed all day and now tonight the sky looked kind of crazy with how the clouds almost looked to be lines of storm clouds that massed together and made one wickid sky. We went from a beautiful clear sky day to having a massive wall of clouds across the sky.

Not that changing weather doesn't happen in the NW though.

Originally posted by ZombieJesus
Well, I don't recollect me or The Weatherman saying we approve of chaff,

Not saying the weatherman approves of chaff... he's just reporting what he's been told.

Originally posted by ZombieJesus
Also, just FYI, The Weatherman works for the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, not the US Military.

I stand corrected: your source was from the US military and the Aussie weatherman's source was from the Aussie military

Originally posted by whoshotJR
It is kind of crazy how the lines just spread out and stayed all day and now tonight the sky looked kind of crazy with how the clouds almost looked to be lines of storm clouds that massed together and made one wickid sky. We went from a beautiful clear sky day to having a massive wall of clouds across the sky.

Not that changing weather doesn't happen in the NW though.

As Ive mentioned many times before, contrail persistence is a good indicator that a frontal system is on the way, as the upper troposphere moistens before the lower part. Colder air being forced up cools forming moisture in cold fronts, giving the right conditions for contrail formation. In fact they are a good indicator for forecasting when nothing is available.

Now if you look at the weather chart for the USA, you will see there's a massive cold front flowing in from the west....one out to sea off Seattle and another one approaching the eastern coast

www.nws.noaa.gov...

reply to post by ChemBreather


Just how exactly can one "see" the chemical composition of something miles away?

Please enlighten the world. The market for equipment and people who run such devises as mass spectrometers and electron microscopes would plummet.
And the only people who say and think that "'chemtrails' persist, contrails don't" are the people who believe in chemtrails. The rest of the world know that about clouds.

edited for typos

[edit on 3-9-2010 by stars15k]

reply to post by orazio


"Considering the possibilities" always makes me laugh.
When do you want to drop the imagination and start looking for facts?
It is all something empirical. The chemistry, the physics, the meteorology....all show that you and ever other person who claims "chemtrails" are mistaken.
Yes, there is still the possibilities, but there also exist the possibility that the earth is flat, the moon is made of green cheese, that a short fat man can come down a chimney with presents to people all over the world in just 24 hours, that bunnies lay colored eggs........all myths, all proven to be wrong, no matter what millions of people might think.

reply to post by orazio

Hi orazio.

In your searches, did you see this?:

Extensive well done report !
www.chemtrailcentral.com...
Go 3/4 down the page and see the graph with 4 pink dots !
How bizarre/convenient: "the unregistered" planes do the chemtrails ! B-)

Blue skies.

reply to post by C-JEAN


C-JEAN, that particular report, from SO MANY years ago, has been well and truly shown to be incorrect, and hardly qualifies as any sort of "scientific" approach, nor is it accurate.

AS I have mentioned, countless times. They "relied" on the program "Flight Explorer" in their efforts to "identify" the air traffic over their heads.

FE is not a reliable source. (For many reasons....partly because it is operated by the computer subsidiary that at one time was primary supplier to American Airliens' computing needs. It BIASED out some airline companies...specifically, arch-rival Southwest. Southwest doesn't "code-share" --- or didn't --- and that affects the way other airlines wish to conduct business with them)

Flight Aware is far more reliable, and consistent.


It only fools those who do not bother to do their own research. OR, those who already have such a built-in bias, they can no longer think rationally.





[edit on 3 September 2010 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by C-JEAN


AND.....this is false!:

...."the unregistered" planes do the chemtrails...

"unregistered", like a normally scheduled Qantas Boeing 747???




Taken not from the cockpit, but by a passenger. His description says it all.
(Do you really, really think they bother to "spray" over the pacific ocean???):




Another cockpit video, with identified passenger airliners:




"Racing" across the North Atlantic Tracks (that refers to the 'NAT' tracks that we fly, mostly between North America and Europe):




On a flight from Ireland to NYC (shot by a passenger):




And, finally....over SIBERIA!!! (Guess those Steppes, and all that vast wasteland needed a good "spraying", eh??) :

I think the real conspiracy are these 'chemtrail hoax' people who swoop down on all these chemtrail alerting threads only to say we're confused because it's all a hoax.

One really has to wonder if these people are part of a governmental (govern=Control/ mental=Mind) program because I find it hard to believe, I share this world with people who simply aren't seeing what I so blatantly see!

reply to post by Human_Alien


Oh for Pity's sake!!!

Here...watch this at least. (And listen to the soundtrack, it's quite relaxing)....

Do you know what the GOES satellites are??

Here is a time-lapse compiled of a FULL YEAR (2008) showing the entire United States, and the weather patterns that affected it.

NOW....where are those peskly "chemtrails"???





OR...maybe this is more to your liking? Since it shows the WHOLE planet:




How about some other REAL space shots?? From a bit closer in...

(Note, they talk about the weather!! yeah, because weather DOES change, all the time...) Still, no "chemtrails"????








[edit on 3 September 2010 by weedwhacker]

Clifford Carnicon -www.carnicom.com...

Lots of info there, and there have been multiple studies taking samples of the 'dust' that settled from spraying. In other words, there was more than just water vapor forming cirrus clouds in some instances, not saying all contrails are chemicals. And you probably wouldn't be able to notice something from space, how can you be sure that there isn't stuff added to Chaff or even exhaust?

Clifford Carnicon -www.carnicom.com...

Lots of info there, and there have been multiple studies taking samples of the 'dust' that settled from spraying. In other words, there was more than just water vapor forming cirrus clouds in some instances, not saying all contrails are chemicals. And you probably wouldn't be able to notice something from space, how can you be sure that there isn't stuff added to Chaff or even exhaust?

reply to post by orazio


Aaaah....and the main sorce of the DIS-info on so-called "chemtrails"

Carnicorn and his baloney is pure drivel. Sorry you fell for it.

Follow HIS motives, for a better understanding of WHY he pushes this nonsense.

(I believe you will see a $$$ incentive, somewhere. FOLLOW the money!)

reply to post by orazio

Hi again, orazio.

Go read another good discussion there:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Blue skies.

Originally posted by soleprobe
reply to post by ZombieJesus

 

The weatherman and the source you referred obviously get there information from the US military... a trusted source to get information about chemtrails....

And you get your information from some random schmuck on the internet, which isn't any better. As a matter of fact people on ATS will blindly discredit anything that comes from the government yet blindly accept what some twit on the internet has to say with little to no evidence.

Its absolutely nuts.