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Originally posted by Erase
reply to post by 5MaveN5
There are plenty of ways to make a living without being taxed, I don't get taxed at my new job and I could seriously make a living off it if I wasn't busy with school.
That GoogleAd thing is widely known to be a scam though, not sure why it's being talked about.
I also have a question for you; The US Gov't has been tightening the noose since day one, are you sure this isn't just part of the gradual increase in Gov't power that has always been going on?
Originally posted by Rede2go
I'm not near as eloquent as most of you and I'll try to put my perspective on this subject in a simple way.
You can put corn in a field and get wild hogs to come eat it and they will get used to eating there everyday. Then one day you can put a small section of fence up near the corn and it goes unnoticed by the hogs. Then a little while later you can put up another section of fence and the hogs don't care about it either. The wild hogs get used to it and you can put up another section of fence and more of the hogs start to show up everyday. Then you can build a fence and leave only one opening and the hogs don't care as long as they get the corn, then you close the gate and the once wild hogs don't even know they've been trapped.
Our freedoms have not been taken away yet but the fence is closing in and most people don't realize it.
Logical fallacies aren't dependent on the thinker's mind, they depend on whether the proof is valid and sound or not. There are established lines of reasoning that can be easily followed and applied from situation to situation.
I'll take your word for the first three sentences, but I have a problem with the fourth. Unless I am mistaken, the taxes used to fund the construction of the courthouse are managed by the same people those being taxed put into power. Now that I look back on that, it seems that we're simply agreeing with each other. That paragraph as a whole was actually quite informative, thank you.
Do you believe that the requirement of a permit of sorts to drive a car is a violation as well?
I have too many thoughts on this issue to put to text, but I'll try. Actually, I'd rather just ask you a question in case I say something uninformed; to what country is our level of understanding comical? Can you please provide an example of a country with that type of understanding? I am actually curious to see if one exists and functions properly.
Thank you for being so patient with me, I didn't mean anything by the headache comment but I can see that it was irrelevant and unnecessary.
An Edit from Eraser on my first post:
I just read your piece on taxes, and I stopped when you insinuate some sort of connection between the case of England actually taxing the colonists without representation with our current system. Unbelievable.
Originally posted by General.Lee
I like an optimist as much as the next guy but you're seeing the glass as half-full. The problem is, it used to be full and our government has taken the other half. I'm going to touch on some of your noted "freedoms".
- This was posted by randyvs at on ATS here: www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=9524793#pid9524793
They create a jobless environment. Then start putting the screws to every other way of getting money. They don't want money to be available to us. Why? the only answer is the one no one wants to believe.
My step son was at the skateboard park the other day. He said it closed at 6:30, so I got there just a couple minutes early to pick him up. Right at six thirty an alarm went off over a loud speak placed on a pole. Bout 30 ft in the air.
Then immediatly after the alarm ended maybe 10 secs. This voice of authority goes ringing through the park." It is time to leave the premises. If you do not leave you are subject to arrest. The police have been notified and are on their way.
If you wish to avoid arrest? Please disperse immediatly."
Do you see the walls closing in?
I would argue that America IS still free.
Originally posted by earthdude
The actual definition of the word free has changed. If anyone sees a free man in the US, he is immediately put in prison. Real freedom frightens Americans.
Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what's it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it, that's two different things. I mean, it's real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. Of course, don't ever tell anybody that they're not free, 'cause then they're gonna get real busy killin' and maimin' to prove to you that they are. Oh, yeah, they're gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em.