reply to post by electropop
first off: star for that post. i may not agree with all of it, but obviously you put some thought into it, and alot of it makes sense.
thanks for sharing that.
Originally posted by electropop
Such a warning isn't needed. If you were to manage the monumental task of attaining "no ego altogether," you would no longer be concerned with the
material world and its toils.
according to whom? one who has never been without ego? Yet, actively and passively (knowingly or unknowingly) participates with a system of systems
and superegos (governments/religions) that are at war with the ego in their rhetoric and their expectations.
This wouldn't be "apathy," since apathy is a condition of the egoic mind. It would be enlightenment.
it has been my experience that within the realms where ego is not, apathy becomes a real possibility.
Moreover, I would argue the opposite--finding silent spaces in one's day in which one overcomes the ego and becomes its observer is uplifting and
allows access to the creative mind, not apathy.
if you can argue, is not arguing in and of itself proof of ego?
One needs to consider that the source of the fear of such a negative outcome comes from--the ego! The ego is very afraid for its existence because it
knows it is an artificial facade.
source of fear? love is the source of fear!!!! abandon all that you love, lose fear, and then be without ego.
is only justified by me
that someone or something has the potential to take from me
something i love
, or harm something/someone i love
i can only justify my hate by being afraid that someone or something has the potential to take from me something i love. when something i love is
threatened and i am afraid of losing it, i hate, and when i hate ... i lose it.
again, we are conditioned to think on linear terms.
what is the opposite of "love"
hate? hate has no reason to exist without fear and love
fear? fear has no reason to exist without hate and love
the source of fear? fear has not one single source. fear is one of the true magics that happens inbetween communications.
The self, consciousness, is the animator of the ego. The self is real, not the ego. That's why one can't "hate the ego"--if the ego is hated,
it's the ego hating itself. The true self, consciousness, can't hate anything because there is no duality to allow it.
i'm on board with most of that. very well stated. star for you!
thanks for sharing those thoughts and that post,
[edit on 1-9-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]