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Topic started on 21-6-2004 @ 12:38 PM by AboveTopSecret.com

AURORA CAUGHT ON VIDEO?

Port Charlotte man films two UFOs
'Ball of fire' not explained by meteor shower, experts say

Nov. 27, 1998
By Greg Martin Staff Writer

Jim DeVoy, 38, of Port Charlotte, saw something astronomical on his way home the afternoon of Nov. 16.

As he was pulling into his driveway at 530 Lakehurst Ave., he looked up through the windshield of his '93 Dodge pickup truck and saw "a ball of fire" streaking slowly toward the horizon.

"It looked like something out of 'Armageddon,' " he said. "It was headed straight down."

He jumped out, dashed inside, grabbed his video camera and started filming the object. About that time, he saw a second, smaller object in the sky. He couldn't film both at the same time, so he trained the camera on the "ball of fire."

"It was creeping toward the horizon for an entire minute," he said.

The videotape shows an object perhaps as broad as a thumbnail at arm's length traveling slowly toward the horizon, with a brightly illuminated, fan-shaped tail of vapor. The image is jittery and comes in and out of focus as DeVoy adjusts the telephoto lens.

On the soundtrack, one can hear birds chirping, a passing car and DeVoy calling for his wife. "Kathy! Kathy!" he says. There's no noise from the unidentified flying object.

After 60 seconds, the silhouette of rooftops of neighboring houses and trees come into view as if the object was flying well past them and far overhead. It disappears below the horizon. Without stopping his camera, DeVoy swings around, looking for the second object.

"I knew there was something else up there, but I couldn't take my eyes off the first one (until it was gone)," he said. "I panned over to the other one."

The second object seemed to be traveling faster, more like a rocket, he said. It was moving more southerly, from right to left, and lower in the horizon, so the paths of the two objects would have intersected beyond the horizon.

He filmed the second object until it passed behind some palm trees.

DeVoy's life hasn't been quite the same since.

He said he's shown the videotape to two television stations. One ran a short clip of the first shot as promotion for its newscasts about the Leonid meteor shower that peaked last week. The other news station rejected the film as a fake, after its meteorologist said the objects couldn't be asteroids.

But DeVoy's family members remain stunned by the film.

"My mother was like, '(The news stations) don't want to use it? Something's up,' " said DeVoy, grinning.

"I was really astounded by it," said his mother, Jean DeVoy. "I thought it was kind of frightening."

DeVoy's sister, Dianne DeVoy, said she expected to see a film of a "shooting star." But what she saw on the tape appeared much more ominous.

"I thought it was a meteor getting chased by a missile," she said.

DeVoy then brought the film to the Sun Herald. The newspaper posted the video clip on its Internet site (www.sunline.net/ufo/).

Dr. Ed Smith, an astronomy teacher at Edison Community College in Punta Gorda, said there are space objects large enough to appear like a ball of fire as they burn up in the atmosphere.

But they would be moving at some 500,000 mph -- like shooting stars. DeVoy's UFO didn't appear to be moving that fast.

"It was quite strange, I thought," said Dr. Brian Bowman, a professor of physics at Florida Gulf Coast University, after he viewed the video on the Internet.

Bowman majored in astrophysics and will be teaching a course on astronomy next spring.

"It appeared that the meteorite's profile didn't change. And the second one -- it doesn't even look real.

"The resolution wasn't good, but it looks like a white rod. ... It kind of looks fishy."

Meteors are particles the size of pebbles that have fallen off a comet. They leave narrow trails, appear more distant and move extremely fast, he said. Asteroids are larger chunks of rock and are less common. They're big enough to leave huge craters if they hit the earth, like one in Arizona.

One of those hitting the earth would not go unnoticed, experts said.

What about a rocket? Bowman said their smoke trails don't look like the ones shown on the film, he said.

Cruise missiles? They fly like a jet, but leave no trail, he said.

"You want to minimize their visibility," he said. "There's a lot of defense-minded activity associated with them."

Dave McQuade, president of the Southwest Florida Astronomical Society in Fort Myers, said he was very interested in seeing the video.

In fact, he has invited DeVoy to show the tape at the club's next meeting Thursday.

A NASA space station payload processing supervisor, Joe DeLai, will be the guest speaker at the event.

McQuade also said the object DeVoy described was moving too slow to be either an asteroid or a meteor.

"My hunch is what he probably saw is a satellite reflecting the sun," he said.

But, when told the object left a vapor trail, he said a commercial jet was "more plausible."

"There's no way it was a rocket," said Bruce Buckingham, a spokesman for NASA at the Kennedy Space Center. "I'd say it could look quite a bit like a rocket. It's not a rocket. There aren't any rockets that fly like that.

"You can look up into the clouds with the right light and, by golly, you're seeing a dragon," he added. "I'm sure it's just an optical trick."

A report of DeVoy's sighting was sent to the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle.

Peter B. Davenport, director of the center, said last week he would have UFO investigators study the video before commenting on it.

But he said for the past 10 weeks, UFO sightings have hit all-time highs.

There have been 66 sightings this month, 127 in October, 164 in September and 56 in August. The center makes no claims about the authenticity of the reports.

Some of the objects reported were triangular, some round and one was "like an X on its side with the long parts connected."

Many are described as fast-moving lights that defy the typical, steady flight patterns of conventional aircraft or shooting stars.

There were half a dozen UFO sightings Monday and Tuesday as the meteor shower passed.

For example, at 11:41 p.m. Monday in Kansas City, Mo., a police supervisor reported getting a call from his girlfriend on his cellular phone. She described a UFO as an "orange, glowing, round object leaving a trail behind it."

She felt as though it was coming after her, so she fled into a relative's house, the cop told the UFO center.

"We are honest, churchgoing people and have no need to be dishonest or phony," he wrote.

A man in Tavares, Fla., reported a UFO at 11:55 p.m. Tuesday. The craft passed silently at an altitude of 1,500 feet with all its lights out as if on a covert approach to Orlando International Airport, he said.

"It looked like a stealth aircraft," he said.

Davenport said the sightings have little to do with the meteor shower, which are remnants of the comet P/55 Tempel-Tuttle, which crossed near earth's orbit in February.

The only correlation between the meteor shower and UFO sightings is that more people were outside at night watching the sky because of the shower, Davenport said.

"It is rarely the case that a person mistakes a shooting star during a meteor shower for an intergalactic ship," he said.

He said the UFO center has tried to get national news organizations to investigate the rash of sightings to no avail.

"We've been inundated with UFO reports," Davenport said. "It is clearly the case, from our vantage point, that the government and the national press really don't want people to hear about this."

DeVoy's videotape may be sparking some national interest.

A week ago, DeVoy got a call from a reporter from "Dateline NBC." The national news magazine had DeVoy rush a tape of the UFOs via Federal Express to the station's offices in Manhattan.

(reprinted with permission)



reply posted on 16-8-2004 @ 12:12 PM by markjaxson
This is the video link for those of you interested in this...

www.firstscience.com...

Its an unreal video this must have been discussed in another thread somewhere here on ats its really interesting i want to know what it is, there is no doubt this is real but what is it?


reply posted on 9-6-2005 @ 11:09 AM by robertfenix
those are two seperate events, the first is some sort of massive space junk falling back down, maybe one of the satellites we lost.

The second video is quite interesting, it is indeed the prototype of the "fast mover" this same aircraft flew over Southern California in November of 2002 and was reported by Norad as a possible UFO. It left this amazingly long contrail in the sky. You could see that this thing was pretty high up and moved super fast from visable horizon to horizon in about 3minutes or less. Thats as far as you can see with your eye in one direction all the way across and in the other direction in 2-3 minutes.

My observing location was just outside of John Wayne Airport flight pattern, it is quite normal to see high flying aircraft in this area, going out over the ocean or crossing over towards mexico, depending on conditions you can see contrails but they typically expire within a few arc minutes, maybe 1 or 2 feet from a ground prespective in the sky. The "fast mover" left a contrail in the sky that from the ground would measure 200 or more feet. And covered such a huge distance in the sky compared to other commercial craft that the estimated speed had to be in excess of at least Mach 5 maybe more.

This thing was fast. The video shows apparently the "fast mover" taking off somewhere and accelerating up in altitude. Simply amazing. You can see that the aircraft is painted in the light ash or white color, typical of NASA advanced research prototypes.

This was in 1998, 4 years prior to the fly over in California.


reply posted on 14-6-2005 @ 01:50 PM by Imperium Americana
Originally posted by robertfenix
those are two seperate events, the first is some sort of massive space junk falling back down, maybe one of the satellites we lost.

The second video is quite interesting, it is indeed the prototype of the "fast mover" this same aircraft flew over Southern California in November of 2002 and was reported by Norad as a possible UFO. It left this amazingly long contrail in the sky. You could see that this thing was pretty high up and moved super fast from visable horizon to horizon in about 3minutes or less. Thats as far as you can see with your eye in one direction all the way across and in the other direction in 2-3 minutes.

My observing location was just outside of John Wayne Airport flight pattern, it is quite normal to see high flying aircraft in this area, going out over the ocean or crossing over towards mexico, depending on conditions you can see contrails but they typically expire within a few arc minutes, maybe 1 or 2 feet from a ground prespective in the sky. The "fast mover" left a contrail in the sky that from the ground would measure 200 or more feet. And covered such a huge distance in the sky compared to other commercial craft that the estimated speed had to be in excess of at least Mach 5 maybe more.

This thing was fast. The video shows apparently the "fast mover" taking off somewhere and accelerating up in altitude. Simply amazing. You can see that the aircraft is painted in the light ash or white color, typical of NASA advanced research prototypes.

This was in 1998, 4 years prior to the fly over in California.



Not arguing with you, over weather or not it was two events, but the time & date stamp on the video shows these occurred together. The video starts at: 5:34:38pm on Nov 16, 1998. There we see the falling UFO (I say UFO only because I can not identify it). At 5:36:04pm on Nov 16, 1998 we see the second object. I do not know if the second object is a conventional "white" aircraft, but I do have two questions:

1. If the second object was a conventional aircraft, was there any reports of the falling (1st) object? They must have seen it.

&

2. Could the two events be related? Are we seeing something that has been shot down?

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