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Fidel Castro takes blame for persecution of Cuban gays

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posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 05:20 PM
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Fidel Castro takes blame for persecution of Cuban gays


www.bbc.co.uk

Fidel Castro has said that he is ultimately responsible for the persecution suffered by homosexuals in Cuba after the revolution of 1959.

The former president told the Mexican newspaper La Jornada that there were moments of great injustice against the gay community.

"If someone is responsible, it's me," he said.

In the 1960s and 70s, many homosexuals in Cuba were fired, imprisoned or sent to "re-education camps".

(visit the link for the full news article)

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posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 05:20 PM
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I like this guy more and more since he's been in the news recently!

I do however have the sneaking suspicion that these are death bed confessions. It's almost as though Fidel Castro feels his time is up and he wants to clear the air about his past.

From reading the article it is apparent Mr Castro is not actually directly to blame for the persecution of gays in Cuba, but he does make the admission that his attention was required elsewhere. Fending off threats from the CIA and alike.

Always room for one last dig at America


www.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

Edit to add I should clear up, before it is latched onto, that I don't agree with the persecution of gays. It was the confession I was interested in...


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posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
I like this guy more and more everytime he's in the news!




"homosexuals in Cuba were fired, imprisoned or sent to "re-education camps""

That's just what he did to gays. I wonder what he did with people who politically apposed him? Oh yeah they were either imprisoned or killed.

Just a sweet, warm and fuzzy misunderstood lovable old man.




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posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 05:24 PM
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I'm glad he's owning up to his past mistakes, instead of taking them to the grave with him.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 05:26 PM
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Wouldn't be fair to change the OP now?

My brain isn't with it this evening.


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posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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Well that was my thinking on the matter, maybe that's the lapsed Catholic in me coming through.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 05:47 PM
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Fidel always talked straight and fair.

Maybe his voice could not be heard in the USA.

It always was heard by Canada and Mexico. Both countries helped a lot in the infrastructure in Cuba while the US and the stupid followers in Europe tried to make that little island disfunctional.

This old guy is and was always one of the good ones on this planet. He made mistakes, of course, but not as many as his opponents.




posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
I like this guy more and more everytime he's in the news!




"homosexuals in Cuba were fired, imprisoned or sent to "re-education camps""


Just a sweet lovable old man.


[edit on 31-8-2010 by SLAYER69]

Because America is so much better right?
Let's all forget about how the Japanese were treated during WW2.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 05:54 PM
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I just wonder how involved he actually was in such affairs. It is almost like one of those state apologies the head of a country makes with enough publicpressure.

Like the British PM David Cameron's apology recently for the Bloody Sunday Massacre. The only difference being, and quite an important one, that Fidel Castro was actually in power at the time of this systematic ill treatment of homosexuals.

This is what I find admirable, how many other world leaders take any responsibility for the wrongs that occured during their leadership?



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by hippomchippo
Because America is so much better right?
Let's all forget about how the Japanese were treated during WW2.



Who said anything about America being better?

Pay attention

The story was about how Fidel is about to meet his maker and now near his death he wants to clear his conscious before the big heave ho



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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This old guy is and was always one of the good ones on this planet. He made mistakes, of course, but not as many as his opponents.


I wonder if the million+ people who had to flee Cuba for fear of their lives, would agree with that statement...




posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by hippomchippo
Because America is so much better right?
Let's all forget about how the Japanese were treated during WW2.



Who said anything about America being better?

Pay attention

The story was about how Fidel is about to meet his maker and now near his death he wants to clear his conscious before the big heave ho


Yes, and I don't see what is wrong about confessing about the bad things you've done in your life. Sure, he wasn't a perfect leader, but my point was that nobody is, mistakes happen, and to blame one person for them would be ignorant in my opinion.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by LadySkadi
reply to post by Siddharta
 



This old guy is and was always one of the good ones on this planet. He made mistakes, of course, but not as many as his opponents.


I wonder if the million+ people who had to flee Cuba for fear of their lives, would agree with that statement...



Cue the next Castro apology!

He definitely has bucket list in the works, and I will be waiting to hear what else, if anything, he has left to say.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:13 PM
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How many people here would forgive a genuinely repentant person?

Obviously I understand that it is not for us to forgive Fidel Castro in any capacity, it is for the people he has wronged.

But hypothetically speaking would you forgive someone in his position if presented with the opportunity?



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
How many people here would forgive a genuinely repentant person?

Obviously I understand that it is not for us to forgive Fidel Castro in any capacity, it is for the people he has wronged.

But hypothetically speaking would you forgive someone in his position if presented with the opportunity?

I know I would.

The embargo that was placed on Cuba may have hindered alot of economic growth that Cuba could have had, Cuba was in bad shape by itself, but the embargo was a thorn that was NOT needed in the side of Cuba.

Fidel Castro is definitely no saint, and was in the past a very evil man, but then again, so are 90% of the politicians in Washington and around the world.

I think him apologizing is a huge step, and it is much much more than other dictators have done over the years.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:16 PM
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Well you brought up a couple of years that the USA made a mistake during a World War vs Fidel and decades worth of mistakes I mean death, persecution and reeducation camps.

There is no comparison.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
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Well you brought up a couple of years that the USA made a mistake during a World War vs Fidel and decades worth of mistakes I mean death, persecution and reeducation camps.

There is no comparison.

My point was that leaders do terrible things in time of stress when they feel they have no other option.

I am by no means a Castro apologist, but to only blame him for the pain that Cuba faced during those times would be ignorant, and I think it is a great step for Castro to admit his mistakes, although admittedly it would have been worth alot more if he wasn't on his deathbed.

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posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:27 PM
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Many Homosexual Priests in America
are allowed to continue their ways.
You can prove me wrong but I have never heard of a
Priest in Cuba Molesting Children.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:28 PM
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Socialism - true equality, because everyone suffers.

Sounds like Castro is trying to get straight with the house before he shuttles off this mortal coil.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 06:29 PM
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That's just it, he says this now knowing that there is not enough time to be charged in a world court for the decades worth of murder and persecution.

I'm glad it's finally coming to an end. Now the Cuban people can grow and prosper and join the rest of the world. maybe even start eating real food like all the rich and wealthy that the Cuban Government caters to in those fancy resorts that are illegal for the average Cuban to visit. Because the Cuban Government doesn't want the wealthy foreigners who spend Billions in the Cuban tourist industry to see just how poor they really are.

They might just get turned off and go elsewhere.

Where exactly is all that money going? Swiss bank accounts just like North Koreas little Kimmy who is reported to have over 3.5 Billion stashed away. I'm sure Fidel's family has a good nest egg stashed away for when the Cuban people revolt becuase they realize they got ripped off. Fidel's family will have plenty of money to survive abroad in luxury.

pffft






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