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. Also, think of it this way: if we were given electric and water for free and the bare-essential things we needed for survival without paying, no-one would bother working and the economy would collapse.
Originally posted by NightGypsy
reply to post by RKWWWW
Power companies are not particularly profitable. They are ranked 37th in the list of most profitable industries.
That may be true, but in my area, Pacific Gas and Electric owns a monopoly on the energy business and has no other competitors to contend with. In 2009, their revenues totalled $13.4 billion and they posted a net income of $1.23 billion.
you don't HAVE to have these things hooked up. no one is stopping you from filling up buckets in a river but you. no one is stopping you from heating your home by burning wood and lighting it with candles... but that would be pretty inconvenient, wouldn't it? so i say don't cry about it and pay your bills...
Also, you don't necessarily need more than the bare-essentials to lead a fulfilling life. You can do loads of life-enriching things that cost notning.
Originally posted by thegoodearth
Even living in a rural area, I feel your frustration.
We have a well, so we don't pay for water. However, we do pay for the electric to pump it.
Our utility bills for last winter were atrocious, and that was with extreme care on my part with the thermostat. I kept it at 62 and told everyone to bundle up, and that is with me being the one who is always freezing to death. We have hot water baseboard, and gas everything. First year in a new house. We are reinsulating this fall before snow flies and are trying to save up penny by penny for a windmill. Even with the rebates and incentives it will take a long time.
Just got informed our rates are going up for the winter. Hooray. Cringing my way into the fall. Am paying extra for the fall bills to try and stave off a crisis here.
I agree with you about the unrealistic attitude of "if you don't like it, go off the grid". Well, with kids, it is almost impossible, with DFS, the county, and the schools. Schools require that one has a computer in the home, for instance. That may sound unreal, but so be it. If a child hands in something handwritten at the high school level, they receive a zero. So no computer at home, then they stay after school for hours (if a teacher consents to stay with them to monitor, good luck) or to the library for the "half hour" max they are allowed online there.
It may not be the employees fault at the local utility, however, we are a product of the society that has morphed into this slave of modernism. We work to feed it.
If a child hands in something handwritten at the high school level, they receive a zero. So no computer at home, then they stay after school for hours (if a teacher consents to stay with them to monitor, good luck) or to the library for the "half hour" max they are allowed online there.
Originally posted by indianajoe77
Your energy and water bills are high because you live in California. The California legislature let Enron rob them.
Blame Gray Davis and the other politicians in California who thought it was a good idea to deregulate around 1998.
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That's why you, in particular, have outrageous utility bills - your politicians.
If you are SERIOUS about CHANGING LIFESTYLES...then do it, make plans now so you can make the move next spring. Others have done it, I did it....I am NOT a genius....YOU CAN TOO. Hey, folks came here in the 1700s and 1800s with out the resources you have at hand and did it.... didn't know a darn thing about country farm life...and did it...YOU CAN TOO.
Once again, I am sorry if I made you answer my question more than once, but, I am having some internet issues right now!
Originally posted by Nathan-D ... Also, think of it this way: if we were given electric and water for free and the bare-essential things we needed for survival without paying, no-one would bother working and the economy would collapse.