A Satirical Ode to UFO Charlatans

David Sereda
Now there’s a trader
Of bogus truths and hilarious lies
Like a new age crusader
He claims to have made a
Flying saucer that actually flies

Jose Escamilla
A wheeler and dealer
Of videos that are clearly fake
His rods are no realer
Than a bogus faith healer
But there are dollars out there to make

Richard Hoagland’s as bad
And what makes it more sad
Is that he spreads disinfo with a shovel
The guy never had
Any proof, iron-clad
Cos his theories have come from a novel

In a zone of his own
We find Clifford Stone
Who was part of Greer’s Disclosure trap
He states he was shown
That 57 aliens are known
Can he prove it? Of course not, it’s crap!

On the other hand
There’s James Gilliland,
A man unaccustomed to flattery
The ETs will land
Upon his command
And his arsehole can charge a flat battery!

Did you all hear
About Steven Greer
His moth and a Joshua tree branch?
He made it quite clear
That ETs are here
But not on the Gilliland ranch

Greer says, “I’m CSETI director
So only I can vector
ET travellers from another dimension
My new radar detector
Proves they’re in my sector
Oh, it costs $3000, did I mention?”

Charlatans and fakers
False story makers
In sharps suits, ties and collars
They’re just oily snakers
Aware of gullible takers
Who are willing to part with their dollars!

reply to post by torsion


Bravo mate!

Simply Brilliant!!!!

I near coughed up a lung!

My dear friend,

LOL very good indeed

Though, I have reason to believe in Clifford Stone Not to derail the important point of this thread though!

Be safe be well,

Spiro

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I think you don't like anything

except attention

Look at me These People Are HOAXERS!!!

I can make Lame Poetry

SOOOOO, what brings you to ATS?


It's Not an Open Mind

Do you have anything positive to say about anyone?

Or is this your MO ?

Not creative enough to actually establish a debate on these people?

Hit me up if you put out a thread that actually ads to this site

In a New post, I'm not wasting my time checking back on this thread

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I don't mind David Sereda. I truely believes that he only wants the best for this planet, and there is nothing wrong with that. Yes, he can be way out there at times, but i think his heart is in the right place, and i don't think he is doing this for money, but doing it for the better of mankind. I mean, this man has done some good stuff in the past for the planet, and i like him for that, and don't think he belongs on the list in my opinion.

This is great. Calling out the nutjobs like these guys needs to be done more often. I always have an open mind, and I'm always willing to hear what somebody has to say...but these guys have got away with their hoaxes for far too long. Might as well add David Wilcox in there while you can.

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+star
Creative and very fun!

UFO Charlatans...Oh, you mean like THIS guy?



Sean David Morton - 6 million $$$ later, and many pounds heavier I might add.

Originally posted by ReturnOfGoukilock
reply to post by torsion

 

I think you don't like anything

except attention

Look at me These People Are HOAXERS!!!

I can make Lame Poetry

SOOOOO, what brings you to ATS?

It's Not an Open Mind

Just what is an open mind? One that does not question the credibility of such hucksters? One that just drinks the Kool-Aid? Not only is your post without humour, it is ultimately negative and ambiguous in relation to what an open mind actually is.

Care to elaborate further without resorting to a direct attack upon another member who was just trying to inject a bit of harmless fun and humour into the forum?

Originally posted by Marrr
UFO Charlatans...Oh, you mean like THIS guy?



Sean David Morton - 6 million $$$ later, and many pounds heavier I might add.

Ah, Sean David Morton
The one who has brought on
Much shame to the UFO field
But just keep a thought on
The frauds he was caught on
And his predictions that failed to yield


[edit on 31-8-2010 by torsion]

This jaw-dropping charlatan was brought to my attention by a recently trashed spam thread!
Read how she will send invisible aliens to your sick bed for $150 a "visit"!


Now Jackie Salvitti
She could be witty
If not for her extraterrestrial trick
She may be pretty
But it sure is a pity
She makes money exploiting the sick

WOW I agree some of those people are along the lines of a used a car salesman, a 1980's snake oil salesman like Escamilla true. RCH is a flip flop and contradicts himself all the time as well. But Clifford Stone? Because he does not have physical proof? He has cabinets full of documents he does not claim he has empirical evidence. ATS has him in the media portal so there is some credence there. Putting Stone in the category with Escamilla is pretty low even for a skeptic. As for Sereda the guy is actually not that bad either. You could have put many other charlatans in there with Escamilla like his partner in crime Jamie Maussan. Maybe that nut at ECETI James Gilliand but Clifford Stone?

Give me a break

This is kind of trolling ya think?


[edit on 31-8-2010 by theMegaladon]

Speaking of Stone, whatever happened to collaboration he did with the ATS staff to get important documents released that had some kind of proof in them? Last I heard they were shopping around different news agencies, but not really getting any bites. This was a while ago and I haven't really seen any updates.

Originally posted by Marrr
UFO Charlatans...Oh, you mean like THIS guy?



Sean David Morton - 6 million $$$ later, and many pounds heavier I might add.

Greer is a ego maniacal narcissist milking the lunatic fringe for large sums of cash. Nobody pays attention to Morton he is the "hutt" of all jokes in UFOligy. Morton is the guy that had a law suit against UFO Watchdog over slander. Now UFO Watchdog no longer exists. Most people do not know who Morton is, for those who do not know he is basically the Jabba The Hutt of UFOligy! He is not even worthy of attention on ATS.

OK just thought I would troll a little i feel better now

How about the Credible people then? Im a bit burned out on charlatans it has become a witch hunt on this board. Needs balance.. who is credible then? Just curious to see who Torsion thinks is a credible source in UFOligy?

[edit on 31-8-2010 by theMegaladon]

Originally posted by torsion
David Sereda
Now there’s a trader
Of bogus truths and hilarious lies
Like a new age crusader
He claims to have made a
Flying saucer that actually flies

Jose Escamilla
A wheeler and dealer
Of videos that are clearly fake
His rods are no realer
Than a bogus faith healer
But there are dollars out there to make

Richard Hoagland’s as bad
And what makes it more sad
Is that he spreads disinfo with a shovel
The guy never had
Any proof, iron-clad
Cos his theories have come from a novel

In a zone of his own
We find Clifford Stone
Who was part of Greer’s Disclosure trap
He states he was shown
That 57 aliens are known
Can he prove it? Of course not, it’s crap!

On the other hand
There’s James Gilliland,
A man unaccustomed to flattery
The ETs will land
Upon his command
And his arsehole can charge a flat battery!

Did you all hear
About Steven Greer
His moth and a Joshua tree branch?
He made it quite clear
That ETs are here
But not on the Gilliland ranch

Greer says, “I’m CSETI director
So only I can vector
ET travellers from another dimension
My new radar detector
Proves they’re in my sector
Oh, it costs $3000, did I mention?”

Charlatans and fakers
False story makers
In sharps suits, ties and collars
They’re just oily snakers
Aware of gullible takers
Who are willing to part with their dollars!

David Sereda isn't a hoaxer. And your poem is unfunny. You're probably really bitter and negative in person.

And
Novel doesnt even rhyme with Shovel !

Nothing in that 'poem' was funny. It was a baseless attack on people who have contributed positively to the ufo field, enhance understanding and explore possibilities. Which is a lot more than could be said for this 'ode'.

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I don't get it. Is this the trendy thing to do now? Attacking people the regular way wasn't working well enough so now you guys have to come up with little musical interludes and songs and poems to attack people with?

What is the point of this thread other than to bait Greer, Gilliland, Hoagland etc supporters into yet another flame war?

Originally posted by theMegaladon
...Clifford Stone? Because he does not have physical proof? He has cabinets full of documents he does not claim he has empirical evidence. ATS has him in the media portal so there is some credence there.

Weren't those alleged "documents" going to be put in the public domain? Or did Stone's invisible alien friend Korona talk him out of releasing them?

Putting Stone in the category with Escamilla is pretty low even for a skeptic. As for Sereda the guy is actually not that bad either. You could have put many other charlatans in there with Escamilla like his partner in crime Jamie Maussan. Maybe that nut at ECETI James Gilliand but Clifford Stone?

Give me a break

Listen to Stone in this video and then tell me he's more credible than any other charlatan! Stone's tale is no more plausible than Escamilla's claim that 2-inch high people were found on the moon.

It's not about opening your mind it's about opening your wallet!

You left out the greatest charlatan of them all--Billy Meier.