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The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS ...

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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 12:05 AM
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The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS ...


news.yahoo.com

Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway - and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 12:05 AM
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Are we one step closer to a classic or real "Police State"
or does this fall into, do not commit any crimes and this will, or should not affect you? No search warrant needed? I wish this was a hoax, but it's not!
I for one am not o.k. with this, whats next, personal GPS tagging or RFID
chips on our persons? Oh wait that is already on the horizon for us?

news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 28-8-2010 by TwoTechnics]



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 12:51 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


This case began in 2007, when Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents decided to monitor Juan Pineda-Moreno, an Oregon resident who they suspected was growing marijuana. They snuck onto his property in the middle of the night and found his Jeep in his driveway, a few feet from his trailer home. Then they attached a GPS tracking device to the vehicle's underside.

And once again we get a new bogus ruling because the police did something beyond their authority, but the court would rather rule to protect what the police did then admit wrong doing on law enforcements part.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 12:57 AM
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I always dreamed of having my garage underground and a driveway that lead from underground up a slowly inclining ramp to the road. Looks like I have even more of a reason to do so now. Sweet. With laser trip wires and automated MG turrets...Awesome


Wait, no...I'm kind of serious about it all up until the turrets.

Honestly I really don't have a problem with it. Like TwoTechnics said if you don't do anything wrong...why should it effect you? Unless it's something like Order 66 from Star Wars where these "good guys" are protecting us by enabling their people to track the "real bad guys" where ever they go. Then when we least expect it and on a secluded portion of back-road somewhere...they wipe us clean off the face of the Earth.

Holy crap...I was just about to post in the thread about paranoia saying that I'm not that paranoid...Gosh...


On a much more serious note, what if your driveway and such are covered and there is some expectancy of privacy? I would think that might be some sort of violation? Correct me if I'm wrong though...



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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This would never happen anywhere on my block. One step into the road and if the dogs don't know you, you will be quickly exposed, you might even try to bring meat to appease the dog in the yard with the car you want to GPS, but what are you gonna do about the other 100 or so dogs that are raising holy hell outside, and their owners who are now peering out to see what is upsetting the dogs?

In my yard, in particular, we have a dog that will BITE YOUR ASS. She is way too smart to fall for food from a stranger, that has been tried, she bit the guy over 30 times and never touched the bolongna he brought to calm her. She takes her job very very seriously. Since it was her yard, and since he was attempting to steal, we nor the dog got in any kind of trouble over it.

I don't see this being used on the masses, I do wish I had read that it was used on meth makers instead of a marijuana grower, sheez.


edit to add:

The article states this began in 2007. Guess it wasn't too successful.

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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 01:00 AM
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I don't think they would have to sneek onto your property to attach a GPS to your vehicle. The technology is almost in every US citizens posession. In almost every new cell phone is a GPS capability. With a court order they can access the GPS on your phone with mic and camera capability. This technolgy aslo has the capabilities of Celldar.

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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 01:51 AM
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but you still would need a search warrant to get into that cell.

When I saw the headline, that was my first thought and what they were talking about.
I do not have a problem with the methods being used, but I do have a problem with the police not having to run that method by the courts to make their case.

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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 01:58 AM
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I hope i do not come across to strong, but tracking an individual today is as simple as brushing your teeth in the morning. Its estimated there are over 27 different way of tracking an individual without physically needing one to be within or come to contact with the individual(s).

Look at your cell phone closely, what aspect of your cell phone are you not able to access. Before anyone says i can reformat and load a new sys calibration, well its not about the system your cell is running but its the individual chip that operates that system.

Some research for the ats members
Mykotronx
VLSI Technology

Moving right along, now take a simple look at your car, does it have gps enabled ? , if so then that makes life a whole lot easier. Okay so you may answer, no my car does not have a gps system, that's okay, if you carry your visa cards on you then its simply a matter of triangulating the response to your particular visa code via leo sat's, irrespective if you use them or not. Those plastic cards you hold so dearly works similar to rfid's but they are dormant until trigger activated. For example, when you place your visa or debit card into an atm machine, it will respond with a " Your Pin" so in actual fact, the card is active but awaits response input. What that means, is that if i trigger your card via sat, it will reply with "Your Pin" it wont emit a signal but it will bounce back a break in reception in comparison to no reception at all, thus making location acquisition a lengthy process but not an impossible process.

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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 02:23 AM
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Cell phones have been tracking ppl for a long while.

en.wikipedia.org...

The government has used computers to listen to calls for several
years and discard the ones that do not seem to have any threat
words of phrases in them, and the numbers are not on their watch list.

This came to light via Room 641a.

en.wikipedia.org...

What is more disturbing is they now sell similar tech so that anyone
can eavesdrop on just about anyone else via flexispy and other apps
like it.

www.squidoo.com...

Privacy is just about toast.

The real kicker is when you turn your cell phone off it is not really off
on most models, you have to pull the damn battery.

Not good...




[edit on 28-8-2010 by Ex_MislTech]



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
reply to post by TwoTechnics
 


The real kicker is when you turn your cell phone off it is not really off
on most models, you have to pull the damn battery.


What really sucks is with the Iphones, your not able to take the battery out
to disable it.



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