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Fidel Castro: bin Laden is a CIA agent

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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 09:50 PM
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Thank you, as you have done a great service...it explains everything now...ohohohohoh...well, well, well! This has been the most illuminating post so far, but it has been interesting and boring.

Actually, Fidel Castro now falls into the category of elder statesman and probably should get some respect for his statements.

But oh, my, oh, my, have you ever solved a mystery for me! Whee!Thanks...Whee.




posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 09:55 PM
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Sorry about that but the news that bin Laden owns a part of Microsoft is the news that absolutely woke me up...ouch! and double ouch!

If it means anything at all to some erudite spy reading our works through microsoft, I will just say that I recently read that black under the fingernails means mourning in some places of the world.

Or does it mean something else, like having dirty hands...just wondering?



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by Serizawa
The CIA has tried to assassinate Mr Castro over 600 times. Its unbelievable...they tried everything, poisoning him, infecting him with TB via his scuba diving gear, they even paid off his wife to shot him but he looked her in the eyes and told her to go ahead if that's what she wanted...she burst into tears couldn't do it. This man is a legend, i believe he was a lawyer in his youth, Guevara was a doctor and they gave it up in order to create a revolution. Hes old and i guess he knows his days are numbered. This is why he has chosen to speak out against the lies we have been fed by our governments.


.... Most of the people who have tried to kill him have been and are OTHER CUBANS...and not ones "backed by the CIA"...


Cubans are not allowed to have weapons for a reason...and castro is very paranoid because he knows that given a chance many regular Cubans would kill him with their bare hands. Except that if a Cuban tried to do that, and if such a Cuban still has family in the island castro and his thugs would use the family of said Cuban as leverage.

castro does not sleep two nights in the same house, and it is not because he believes the "CIA is everywhere"....

For crying out loud people...

You people want to "deny ignorance" yet believe lies, and exagerations...

castro and che guevara, among others, were, and in the case of castro and some others, nothing but murderous bastards...

People like you don't seem to understand that every piece of information from the socialist/communist regime is not only EXAGERATED but in many cases LIES...

Why the heck do you people think that castro does not allow any international humanitarian group to see what really is happening in Cuba?... Because if he allowed this people would see EVERYTHING he claims is a lie, or an exageration...

I still keep wondering why is it that westerners, and even easterners tend to want to believe the lies of a murderous bastard rather than the MILLIONS of Cubans who has escaped the socialist/communist regime...

You people should be ASHAMED...



[edit on 28-8-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:09 PM
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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by lynxlynx
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Now just out of curiosity, how many of you ATS "know-it-alls" have run a whole country between the pressure of two warring superpowers..?

The point I'm trying to make, is that people of his caliber don't say shlt like this too often.. When they do, some serious attention should be paid.


People of castro's caliber make up lies, and hide lies with more lies, and or exagerations...

ALL information in Cuba, and from Cuba is controlled by castro and his thugs.

This sob of castro doesn't even allow independent humanitarian groups inside the island to investigate his claims, yet people, and such people happen to be leftists, like to believe every claim he makes...

castro lies about what happens in Cuba, and you want to believe he is telling the truth about this?....


[edit on 28-8-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by LoneGunMan
The world is so damn crazy lately! So Castro is one of the few leaders to at least try and warn the world where we are heading.

This just proves everything is upside down.


No man, castro claimed that the United States would use nuclear weapons instead of conventional weapons to attack Iran. That is one of the claims he has made, and sorry to say that not even I, and i don't like the Obama administration, believe this...

I don't believe for one second that the United States, or Israel are going to use nuclear bombs to attack Iran...

This was nothing more than another lie by castro, and an oportunity for him to bash the U.S., Israel, and even capitalism...



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Originally posted by highfreq
Is it just me or does it seem like ole Fidel Castro has recently become a member of ATS?


Unfortunately because the Cuban Exile Community is staunchly set against him and for very good reason for the most part, the people of Cuba are still basically living a very impoverished life cut off from most International Trade and assistance



Maybe this is done on purpose to keep cuba independent for when the # hits the fan,

I think this guys for real and i think OBL was CIA Born and bread to do what hes done to the world



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 06:28 AM
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It seems, that you are purposely derailing this thread and everytime I or anyone else replies to you the matter just gets worse..

You depict Castro as a "murderous bastard" and immediately attack and downplay anyone who doesn't fully agree with you.
(Made clear by your 'eyerolling' (errenous) comment about Finland)


It shouldn't be any secret, that most of cubas developmental problems stem from the US embargo:
www.un.org...

This is my last reply to you and any further comments by you will be ignored.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 01:47 PM
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People talk about Fidel being senile and such but forget that he is one of the original conspiracy theorists turned revolutionary.

He actually managed to have kicked the Mafia and their owners the CIA out of Cuba.

He was fighting the Powers That Be and the Industrial Military Complex long before many of us were even born !!





posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 02:10 PM
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Here we have another example of manipulation of the media so that people would not believe this:

This was filed under the "weird news" section at msnbc.com, my source of news

www.msnbc.msn.com...




posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 04:31 PM
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Castro is an idiot. Osama hates the U.S. The first thing the Real Osama said after 9/11 was that he did not do it and it was a long explanation to hit at why he didn't but how he understood why it was done.

A few days later the CIA comes out with a FAKE OBL statement that claimed he did do it and it was very short and to the point but obviously FAKE.

Every statement and video since 9/11 after the very first that hardly anyone heard about has been very fake.

Osama is dead. Dead men cant come out and expose the lie. Thats why you don't see Muslims running around singing him praises.

Osama was killed by Omar Sheik who was in CIA custody and then let loose to kill Osama. The CIA then picked their asset up off the streets.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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what i always wondered was how the hell do we even know what bin laden was saying during all these appearances on national television????? somebody could easily film him moving his lips and insert their own propagandist lies lol?!


kinda makes you wonder dont it.



posted on Aug, 30 2010 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by lynxlynx
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It shouldn't be any secret, that most of cubas developmental problems stem from the US embargo:
www.un.org...

This is my last reply to you and any further comments by you will be ignored.



Ah of course...an outsider telling a Cuban what castro is like and what happens in Cuba... typical...

It is a known fact that castro does not allow any independent human rights groups in Cuba AT ALL...

Cuba's problems began with the revolution, since the start of the revolution, and even before the embrago castro , and the socialist/communist regime put in "rationing" since the beginning of castro taking power...

I have shown several times that the socialist/communist regime in Cuba has been doing business with Canada, and in the past with many Europen countries, and MY PEOPLE still went hungry, and were and still continue to be oppressed, and now they go even hungrier...

Reently i have been talking with my family in Cuba and things are now even worse. They can barely find any food even with money. and it is not because of the embargo... It is because castro and the socialist/communist regime do not plant and harvest enough food for Cubans...

There is enough arable land in Cuba to feed EVERY CUBAN, but since the "party/state" owns most of the land, the regime, castro and his thugs, demand for farmers to plant products that make money "for the revolution"... Those products are "Cuban cigars" (which do not feed any Cuban) sugar cane, and other similar products...

When the state owns everything, as it happens in socialism/communism, the "party" decides what is best for the revolution and the party, but they don't do what is best for the people...

But of course when someone who is a Cuban tells the truth to someone like yourself you hide behind the lies of castro, who yes he is a murdering bastard, and so was che guevara...

Members of my family at first fought with castro thinking it was true that things would be better, and at first he didn't describe himself as socialist, but as he took power in Cuba he announced Cuba was now socialist. Then as more socialist programs were implemented the nation became oppressed by communism...

Socialism/communism is nothing more than oppression... Marx himself described that all religions must cease to exist, which means you are forced not to exercise your right to follow any religion or spiritual path, and the people are FORCED to follow the mandates of the party/state" as Marx himself described...

How can you be free when you DON'T have ANY individual right, since it is bad for the party and for the revolution...

How can you be free when you can't own anything at all, the state/party owns everything and they decide what the production should be used for.

The same thing has happened to EVERY NATION which has embraced fully socialism/communism, but people like you don't want to listen to the truth...

You want to put me in ignore? I don't care, but I will tell truth about Cuba ALWAYS...

castro is known to LIE, yet there are people (who ironically are not Cubans), and happen to be leftists, want to believe anything he says...


You call derailing the thread to tell the truth about castro and his lies....so be it... You can believe whatever the heck you want, but it is not the truth...




[edit on 30-8-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Aug, 30 2010 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by nh_ee
People talk about Fidel being senile and such but forget that he is one of the original conspiracy theorists turned revolutionary.

He actually managed to have kicked the Mafia and their owners the CIA out of Cuba.

He was fighting the Powers That Be and the Industrial Military Complex long before many of us were even born !!



Sorry but what you said is the propaganda...

Cuba WAS the jewel of the Caribbean before the revolution...

Even with Batista, who WAS PUT IN POWER BY THE SOCIALIST PARTY IN CUBA, the Cuban people were in much better conditions than now BECAUSE CAPITALISM WAS ALLOWED...

There was a tv in every house, including farmers, in Cuba BEFORE the revolution...

Cubans could put food in our tables three times a day and for the most part us Cubans were doing good...

My grandfather on my mother's side was a farmer which owned some land about 80 acres or so, and my grandfather on my father's side owned a bodega, a small store... None of them were EVER rich...

Most of the 80 acres my grandfather owned was taken by the "party/state" as well as the small bodega that my other grandfather owned...

The same happened with most Cubans who owned any piece of land, or were small business owners. The state/party owns all forms of production under socialism/communism...

castro was not fighting against tptb... he was/is fighting against Cubans who were/are trying to have a better life for us and our children...

You people want to complain how "evil the U.S. is for puting in prison terrorists/insurgents"... yet you want to ignore the fact that castro would send his number 1 executioner, che guevara, to quell by any means necessary including murder regular Cuban people to stop them from talking against the things castro was, and has been doing...

che guevara would get an entire family outside their house and in front of family and neighbors he would shoot in the head whoever was talking about freedom or condeming the evils being committed by castro, che guevara and their other thugs...

What has been happening in Cuba is similar to what is happening in Colombia with the communist rebels kidnapping REGULAR COLOMBIANS for ramson, and then killing them if the families cannot pay. But instead of asking for ramson Cubans have been killed, or imprisoned and beaten daily for talking about FREEDOM from the socialist/communist regime...

Cuban jails are still full of book authors, poets, and anyone else who would dare speak up in Cuba against what the socialist/communist regime has been doing...

But for some strange reason, and mostly LEFTISTS who have never lived as Cubans, don't want to believe the truth about Cuba, and instead of believing what the over 2 millions Cuban who are all over the world say about Cuba, people like yourself want to believe the propaganda, and lies which come directly from the socialist/communist regime...


What you "believe" is the propaganda...

[edit on 30-8-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Unfortunately because the Cuban Exile Community is staunchly set against him and for very good reason for the most part, the people of Cuba are still basically living a very impoverished life cut off from most International Trade and assistance because of the U.S. Embargo against the Island.


That and the fact that the Cuban Government doesn't want the elite wealthy international vacationers to see the real Cubans while they spend their billions on trips to Cuban paradise resorts. I think the average Cuban would love to have the tiniest bite of what is served to the foreign wealthy elite there.




Hotels in Cuba
Cuba Resorts
Weddings in Cuba



It's hard to say if that might have been different had it not been for the embargo and all the internal and external opposition to him, but the man is rutheless and murderous in his own right nonetheless.


Yeah it's good to be the king.
I mean a Dictator.



posted on Aug, 31 2010 @ 08:37 AM
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It amazes me that Fidel Castro, a Communist Dictator can read an article that he agrees with and when he declares that he believes the premise of the article to be true, the world, the media and most Americans take notice.

While I have no problem believing the story that Obama is a CIA agent, I find it more than unusual when some dictator makes the statement as opposed to someone in America who states the same thing. Why some Cuban dictator is more believable than some American is to me an insult to common sense. Especially since Fidel Castro only read an article on Wiki-leaks.

The only reason I raise this point is because I have been repeatedly posting reply's right here on ATS for at least as long as Obama has been in office trying to convince others of the same allegation, that Obama was and still is a CIA agent.

While I realize the difference between an opinion and an established fact, you would think someone sooner than this recent thread would have noticed that right here on ATS someone has been repeatedly saying the same thing and more with no one giving the least little bit of concern because of course its too fantastical to believe and of course without all the 8X10 glossy photographs, most on ATS wont believe anything and even I did have the evidence, it would be called fake or fabricated.

This latest revelation is no revelation to me since I have been writing about this CIA connection for over 18 months. In that time I have heard enough hate and stupidity to last me a life time. What it has taught me is to keep my knowledge to myself and even if no one wants to admit that I have been right for over 18 months in stating what I was stating. I now think it is time for all those pundits that laughed at my expense when I tried to reveal the same CIA connection to review the rest of the allegations and begin connecting the dots on your own.

There is much more to the CIA connection than most want to consider, and until the whole reason "WHY" is discussed, no one will fully understand the complexity of what the CIA connections actually means in the scheme of things.

Thanks for the posting, but I guess I should thank Fidel Castro, a known dictator for at least acknowledging what I have been stating for almost two years. Even without Fidel Castro's tacit admission of such a CIA connection, I would still be stating the same information.

I find solace in knowing I was right, but I didn't need Fidel Castro's acknowledgment for such a theory to know I was right. I wrote what I did to warn the public. It's sad so many don't know a warning when they read one, but course this could be the "too close to the forest to see the trees" syndrome.

Thanks for the posting.



posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 01:27 PM
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Not really sure, because I haven't read the entire Wikileaks recent release about home grown terrorism from the US, but could what Ol' Castro be saying have anything to do with the document? Could it possibly be a snippet of a larger document that entails government trained and paid "terrorists" to keep the masses in a fear induced compliance?



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