Scythians preceded Sumerians? Also Scythian & Ireland Connection, page 2
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reply posted on 1-11-2011 @ 10:27 PM by LUXUS

The Irish annalists claim a descent from the Scythians, who, they say, are descended from Magog, the son of Japhet, the son of Noah. Keating says: "We will set down here the branching off of the race of Magog, according to the Book of Invasions (of Ireland), which was called the Cin of Drom Snechta."[7] It will be remembered how curiously O'Curry verified Keating's statement as to the authorship of this work,[8] so that his testimony may be received with respect. In the Scripture genealogy, the sons of Magog are not enumerated; but an historian, who cannot be suspected of any design of assisting the Celts to build up a pedigree, has happily supplied the deficiency. Josephus writes:[9] "Magog led out a colony, which from him were named Magoges, but by the Greeks called Scythians." But Keating specifies the precise title of Scythians, from which the Irish Celts are descended. He says they had established themselves in remote ages on the borders of the Red Sea, at the town of Chiroth; that they were expelled by the grandson of that Pharaoh who had been drowned in the Red Sea; and that he persecuted them because they had supplied the Israelites with provisions. This statement is singularly and most conclusively confirmed by Rabbi Simon, who wrote two hundred years before the birth of Christ. He says that certain Canaanites near the Red Sea gave provisions to the Israelites; "and because these Canaan ships gave Israel of their provisions, God would not destroy their ships, but with an east wind carried them down the Red Sea."[1] This colony settled in what was subsequently called Phoenicia; and here again our traditions are confirmed ab extra, for Herodotus says: "The Phoenicians anciently dwelt, as they allege, on the borders of the Red Sea."

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reply posted on 2-11-2011 @ 10:58 AM by demongoat
Originally posted by LUXUS
The Irish trace their origins back to Magog the second son of Japheth this is well known. Josephus identified the offspring of Magog as the Scythians. Basically the Scythians are the Irish, and the Irish are the Scythians!

irish priests claimed they did, but it is a well known fact that they did that for every group of people, in an effort to categorize everyone into decedents of the children of noah, it hardly means they were.
also it was common for people to insinuate that a group of people were related to the scythians as a way to smear them. the scythians were thought of as the ultimate barbarian, claiming someone was related to the scythians would be an insult, i guess the scots and the irish hearing it a lot didn't think it was an insult.

of course by the time the irish and scots claimed it, the term was so generic anyone could claim it.
people seem to forget that often times words stop meaning what they used to, so claiming a label doesn't mean anything unless you can produce evidence of it.

i have a question for people, why does anyone take .bibliotecapleyades.as anything more than nonsense? it is nothing but pure horse manure pretending to be authoritative. it has no sources, why does anyone take it seriously?
is it purely because people think historians are out to hide the truth for some reason and so they believe the most outlandish things to rectify it?
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reply posted on 3-11-2011 @ 06:55 PM by blah yada
I found this on Wiki.Interesting.


Fénius Farsaid (also Phoeniusa, Phenius, Féinius; Farsa, Farsaidh, many variant spellings) is a legendary king of Scythia who shows up in different versions of Irish folklore. He was the son of Bathath who was a son of Magog. According to some traditions, he was the creator of the Ogham alphabet and the Gaelic language.

According to recensions M and A of the Lebor Gabála Érenn, Fénius and his son Nél journeyed to the Tower of Babel (in recension B, it is Rifath Scot son of Gomer instead). Nél, who was trained in many languages, married Scota, daughter of Pharaoh, and their son was Goidel Glas.

In the Lebor Gabála Érenn (11th C), he is said to be one of the 72 chieftains who built Nimrod's Tower of Babel, but travelled to Scythia after the tower collapsed.

According to the Auraicept na n-Éces, Fenius journeyed from Scythia together with Goídel mac Ethéoir, Íar mac Nema and a retinue of 72 scholars. They came to the plain of Shinar to study the confused languages at Nimrod's tower. Finding that they had already been dispersed, Fenius sent his scholars to study them, staying at the tower, coordinating the effort. After ten years, the investigations were complete, and Fenius created in Bérla tóbaide "the selected language", taking the best of each of the confused tongues, which he called Goídelc, Goidelic, after Goídel mac Ethéoir. He also created extensions of Goídelc, called Bérla Féne, after himself, Íarmberla, after Íar mac Nema, and others, and the Beithe-luis-nuin (the Ogham) as a perfected writing system for his languages. The names he gave to the letters were those of his 25 best scholars.

Auraicept claims that Fenius Farsaidh discovered four alphabets, the Hebrew, Greek and Latin ones, and finally the Ogham, and that the Ogham is the most perfected because it was discovered last.




reply posted on 4-11-2011 @ 09:11 AM by BeastMaster2012
there is a huge connection between egypt/israel/sumeria with Ireland, and it is Newgrange

en.wikipedia.org...

It was built in 3200 BC. It could be 500 years older than the Great Pyramids and it is older than Stonehenge. Did the builders of Newgrange move south and east towards Egypt? Maybe they came from Sumeria or that area and went west and built newgrange? I don't think people were just hanging around the same place in 3000 BC, i think there was a lot of traveling.


reply posted on 4-11-2011 @ 06:28 PM by blah yada
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I would think that the builders of Newgrange came from or were influenced by the Egyptians as opposed to the other way around.Perhaps Newgrange (and Knowth and Dowth) were "budget" attempts at recreating Egyptian or other edifices, by a group a northward migrating explorers.

If you look at Newgrange,Knowth and dowth in GE, you can see the outline of countless other circular structures, suggesting the three were part of a complex perhaps even a city of sorts.There are some curious contours in the area that suggest massive earth moving in the past.

Actually if you look in GE, Ireland's countryside is peppered with the imprints of circular structures.They are extremely common. Some are better preserved than others, but most are not interfered with.

The Book of Invasions is full of surprises. Apparently it named a couple of pharohs that were not known to modern archaeology until relatively recently. In the christian era Ireland was known to be a repository of knowledge where monks transcribed ancient texts. Having seen the Book of Kells and a few other works, it is tantalising to wonder what else remains to be found on the island or even the islands around it and Scotland.
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