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8.28.10 - Celebrate the Dream, Reject the Nightmare

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posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 12:35 AM
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Angry sheep. Baaah!

You have a very twisted view of people who see past Beck's foolishness. That would be called prejudice.




posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by prepared4truth
reply to post by Quadrivium
 


Angry sheep. Baaah!

You have a very twisted view of people who see past Beck's foolishness. That would be called prejudice.

Does your mommy know your up so late?
Do some research for yourself.
Don't count on simple talking points from progressive outlets. If you do then you are the true sheep and I have a taste for veal.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 01:23 AM
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You are a total creature of the leftist media. Utterly brainwashed to hate whom they hate and love whom they love. Just for your information Sarah Palin was probably the best governor Alaska has ever had. Glenn Beck is great simply because of his ability to educate people and make them aware of what is really going on behind the scenes. This is above top secret and yet here you are promoting essentially the elite NWO, who hates both Sarah and Glenn, because they represent the ordinary common man.

Here are some of Sarah's amazing accomplish including some things even the most psychotic liberal would love, like taking on the oil companies, winning and distributing some windfall profits to ordinary Alaskan citizens.

thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com...



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by Quadrivium
a great event, period. He and those with him helped raise millions for a worthy and noble cause.
Pull your heads out of the sand (sand= media matters and the daily show) come back down to earth, join r-e-a-l-i-t-y and look at the state of this country.
Use a little foresight.
For any of you with children (if mommy will let you have some one of the opposite sex in your room) think of the debt that will be hanging over their heads.
I would gladly and would rather tackle this problem now instead of passing it onto them!
To keep them from becoming slaves to the system.


Dear Quadrivium,

I fully comprehend your concerns, and your view that perhaps Glenn is the saviour. Unfortunately, you had been misled. Do some research on Glenn and see if he is someone whom has the integrity to lead Americans.

This latest circus by him speaks fully well of him as an opportunist. It was a great day marking the memory of a great American who placed civil rights at the forefront of citizen's focus and succeeded. Glenn hijacked that day of opportunity, as well your concerns to be heard to push his own agenda and scheme.

For all his grand theatrics, does he have a solution to your woes?
Had he offered any pragmatic debt solutions?
Had he seek for a reform and greater comprehension of religious institutions that more are gradually awaken to its faults?
Had he provided plans on how to grow the family unit and keep it protected?
Had he revealed who are the corruptors of society with evidences?

I can go on and on, but you would have gotten the point.

It's perfectly ok to get a flawed man to lead, afterall, no human is perfect. But most critically and vital of all is that the leader must ACKNOWLEDGE his flaws and is willing to correct it. Better if he has a team, then at least he can be watched behind the scenes and helped to correct his flaws.

But sadly, after watching Glenn over the years, he had not change. He only reminds one of a snake oil salesmen, slippery and non stick, twisting and bending his way. He is a schemer and an opportunist.

And it is such persons that you and I must be aware of, so that we the awakened will not fall into a slumber again and led from the frying pan into the boiling pot....



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by johnny2127
Ok, before dismissing the event outright because of your hatred for Glenn Beck, please look at the message of the event and go from there. You may dislike Beck, but the message and purpose of this event seems to be one that transcends politics to me:


[edit on 27-8-2010 by johnny2127]


then you are dull...

Politics is the game of emotional pandering and manipulation, it is intended to inspire
and motivate people to act in a specific way at the polls. The default will be the GOP
who is guilty of the same attitude these people are gather against. Much of the talent
was knee deep involved in the plunder and corruption that this government perpetrates. This nationalist fervor is redressed as a call for freedom, which always seems to directly and intentionally bolster the rich by use of the government. A couple free market principles properly angled provide epic loop holes for corporate theft and malfeasance. Contrary to the popular hymn; it is not incompetence we witness, it is malice, such a thing has nothing to do with quantity. This gathering is teaming with people who drooled haplessly while this government went nuts for a decade. Glenn Beck has been milking the cross eyed public who cannot even recognize an O.C sermon from a man motivated by providence, god bless, sweet baby jesus and donate often, werd! The Jonas brothers kick Led Zeppelin's ass!



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 02:53 AM
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Ahhh my dear SeekerofTruth,
It seems that you drew a little too much from my post.
Glenn my savior?
Hmmm not so much.
As a matter of fact I find him to be childish and over animated most of the time. I don't care to watch but I do try and read transcripts from his shows.
All the negative publicity from progressive groups like media matters actually help his ratings.
It makes one curious, sometimes enough to watch/listen to him.
Then when you go back to the progressive site and see how they butchered what he said it kinda makes you wonder why.
If he is such a loon, such a dirt bag, such a freak show why are others constantly editing/taking out of context what he says?
Why not just let him sink his own ship unless they are scared of what he is saying?
And why would some of the MSM, that we know love this current administration, be scared of what a freak show is saying?
Unless he is saying things they don't want the people to hear.
I have done fact checks on many, many things he has brought to light. Things I did not want to believe and I find him to be spot on about 95% of the time.
As far as integrity goes, who in government can you point to that has an ounce of the stuff? Which one of our current "leaders"?
This is a point that needs to be made; Beck is NOT a leader. He is an informer looking for a leader.
What he did in his past he will have to answer for if he has not done so yet.
It matters little to me. Because I also have things in my past that I would like to erase as I am sure you do as well.
Is he opportunistic? Of course he is! If I could do what he does and get paid I would be to!
Just as I asked before; which one of our current "leaders" can you point to who is not this way?
There was nothing in the rally today that interfered/overcame MLK jr's message. One can not overcome such a message. These my dear were just more attempts by the PTB to divide us.
As are the accusations that Beck is some great leader and the people that showed up/watched/listened today are his blind followers.
The crowd there were Americans. AMERICANS who would like to find a way out of our current situation. And the only way many see to do that is through FAITH.
Did you by chance see the rally? What upset you the most about it?
Or are you just snatching progressive talking points and throwing them around for your masters?
The term "sheeple" has truly been hijacked. It now refers to those who do not blindly follow the PTB but stand against it.
I stand by my previous post. The rally today was a great event, PERIOD! It helped raise millions for a worthy and noble cause. (And you got beck was my savior out of that?) Baaa...Baaaa!



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 04:27 AM
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Poor sot,

Reading what you wrote, may you be able to reconcile with your own differences and conflicts over Glenn and yourself, and resolve who and what he is and discontinue with your childish bleeting like a sheep that you admitted continuely on this thread

1. You call him a childish animated freak show and yet you believed he is right 95% of the time, which are evidences culled by others and not researched by him.

Is he a freak show or is he right? Make up your mind.


2. You defended his integrity or the lack of it, and yet you exonerate him of any wrong doing that you would not do if in his place given the chance, and yet are bothered by the integrity of the MSM and current leaders

Do you expect integrity by your rulers or do you not? Is he your savior or is he not? Make up your mind.


3. You claim Glenn is not a leader, but seeking for a leader, and yet you claimed that he in organising this hijacked civil right movement event managed to raise millions for a worthy and noble cause not fully related to the civil rights movement, a cause which much more nobler persons had organised and much more raised than him at any other time.

Furthermore you are claiming this hijacked civil rights movement event had been a great event, PERIOD. You are already alluding and lauding him to leadership status.

Is he a leader or is he not, just a more high profile opportunists the way TPTB are made up of? Make up your mind.

4. The ones are the rally were Americans. The way out is not just FAITH alone. Real work with pragmatic solutions needs to be done, beginning at the home and the institutions of worship.

So you believe that Glenn's call to participate and simple one word solution will solve the world's practical woes? Remember, that event was on the national stage and plaform, not some starbucks cafe chit chat.

So is Glenn your saviour or is he not?

You do need to reply to me, for I am insignificant, a nobody, affliated to no one and needs no whatever deluded points you can think of. You only need to reply to yourself honestly and find your way out. I don't live your life.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
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Poor sot,

Reading what you wrote, may you be able to reconcile with your own differences and conflicts over Glenn and yourself, and resolve who and what he is and discontinue with your childish bleeting like a sheep that you admitted continuely on this thread

Maybe you would like to tidy this up a bit.
Sorry but I can not tell what you are trying to say exactly. I will be happy to respond whether you want me to or not if you do so.



1. You call him a childish animated freak show and yet you believed he is right 95% of the time, which are evidences culled by others and not researched by him.

Is he a freak show or is he right? Make up your mind.

Are you daft?
There are no contradictions here. He is has a freak show and is right about 95% of the time.
Go back to the progressive chalk board (borrow one from Beck if need be) and try again.


2. You defended his integrity or the lack of it, and yet you exonerate him of any wrong doing that you would not do if in his place given the chance, and yet are bothered by the integrity of the MSM and current leaders

Oops you missed again.
I did not defend his integrity I simply asked who in a leadership position has any.
I did defend his opportunist nature because we all have that to one degree or another.


Do you expect integrity by your rulers or do you not? Is he your savior or is he not? Make up your mind.

Are you a troll or a sheep you baaahaad boy? Make up YOUR mind.
Yes I would like to see integrity in our government, we do not have rulers.......yet. But I do not expect it, that would be foolish until more changes (very soon hopefully) are made.


3. You claim Glenn is not a leader, but seeking for a leader, and yet you claimed that he in organising this hijacked civil right movement event managed to raise millions for a worthy and noble cause not fully related to the civil rights movement, a cause which much more nobler persons had organised and much more raised than him at any other time.

Furthermore you are claiming this hijacked civil rights movement event had been a great event, PERIOD. You are already alluding and lauding him to leadership status.

Is he a leader or is he not, just a more high profile opportunists the way TPTB are made up of? Make up your mind.

Presume much?
It was a great rally that raised a lot of money for a noble and worthy cause. AND it brought needed attention to a day many in America have forgotten.
Get past your ideology and focus on the big picture.
Apparently you did not watch/listen to the rally because you are still spewing filth from your progressive blog/news site.
Go wine to them about the big meany on ATS that would not take your PROGRESSIVE bull any longer.


4. The ones are the rally were Americans. The way out is not just FAITH alone. Real work with pragmatic solutions needs to be done, beginning at the home and the institutions of worship.

Lol struck a nerve? Why do you keep editing/taking out of context what I wrote? Save that for Beck.
I said they were Americans who can not find another way out of this mess but through faith. This includes the faith that things will change so that we can start working on pragmatic solutions.


So you believe that Glenn's call to participate and simple one word solution will solve the world's practical woes? Remember, that event was on the national stage and plaform, not some starbucks cafe chit chat.

Now I know for sure that you are just a little weepy sheepy. You know nothing about the event. But you do not mind attacking it. You hang on every word they feed you. What a good little sheep you are.
If not you would know that it is not a one word solution. It is a three word solution:
FAITH; HOPE; CHARITY
If you had any of the three you would know how powerful they can be.
Take a look at the rally, when you are better informed you can reply.


So is Glenn your savior or is he not?

No Beck is not my savior.
He died a long time ago. But don't be to upset. You see He rose again on the third day after His death and now sits on the right side of my Father in heaven.
Beck is Beck you silly sheep.


You do need to reply to me, for I am insignificant, a nobody, affliated to no one and needs no whatever deluded points you can think of. You only need to reply to yourself honestly and find your way out. I don't live your life.

WHAT?
I guess you were trying too hard not to bleat to get that part out coherently.

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posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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I was expecting hopefully for something more intellectually stimulating as a form of reply from you, but then it is only all drivel and insults. Why even bothered to reply with silly babble to justify your own existance based on inconsistancies and lies?

As mentioned, its your life, not mine. Hope you enjoy it.

[edit on 29-8-2010 by SeekerofTruth101]



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 07:31 AM
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HAHAHA this is the best YOU CAN DO??? You set up this rediculous list to demonize beck but if you ask me its all normal behavior for a persons life from high school to now. You failed at demonizing. So what hes making a speech at the same place a man did before! HE is not pushing for war in iraq! Hes not pushing for iran to be attacked. He is a defender of the constitution and this is really what the man is trying to accomplish OOOOOHHHH HES A REAL BOGEYMAN!!! IF only some of you spent this much energy trying to demonize a legitmately evil man like bush (just an example) then maybe we could live in a better world! Nah will never happen you guys keep playing your games! We are not allowed to be tea party members because its a racist organization lol!!!! WE are NOT allowed to say anything about obama or WE are a RACIST! You are not allowed to complain about immigration or you are a RACIST! Your demonizing BECK all for what ???? WHAT DID HE HONESTLY DO THAT WAS EVIL!!!! YOU SAY THIS IS JUST BECAUSE HES COMPARING HIMSELF WITH MLK THEN I CALL YOU A LIAR AND YOU DONT MIND OUR CONSTITUTION BEING USED AS TOILET PAPER BY THE GOVERNMENT THAT HI JACKED OUR COUNTRY MANY YEARS AGO!



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 08:00 AM
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By all means express your voice just as anyone else would equally do so.

America has a lot of issues to resolve right now, and there is no for theatrics. It is time for men or women of action to resolve such issues. It will not come from one man or woman alone. It needs a team of dedicated americans.

And Glenn, judging by his history is definately not such a person to lead the country. Who is on his team? Will the present administrators willingly jumps when he snaps his fingers, or can find the right persons who will trust him to lead the nation out of its predicament and to greatness?

Let's all slow down. Enjoy the dramas and comedys, but scrutinize carefully the next team of legislatives, to ensure they have the solutions to help US and not another meandering over social issues.

Enough of actors wannabes. The empire cannot be run by play to gallery actors and hope to survive, espacially in these times. There are no perfect humans, but only ordinary serious humans who can perform extraordinarily at extraordinary times.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
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I was expecting hopefully for something more intellectually stimulating as a form of reply from you, but then it is only all drivel and insults. Why even bothered to reply with silly babble to justify your own existance based on inconsistancies and lies?

My dear sir, if one does not wish to be insulted then maybe they should try not to insult. I believe that you started your previous post by calling me a "poor sot".
Maybe, just maybe you did not realize that to be an insult?
But soon after you attack my post, putting your own sheepish spin on it and you call me insulting.
I challenge you to find just five MAJOR "inconsistencies and lies".
Not slips of the tongue as we all have but actual things that have been done out of slander and malice. I warn you though, if you just cherry pick talking points from a progressive site that are edited/taken out of context they will be exposed and you will look all the worse for it.
Maybe you might learn something my friend.
2)After reading your post following this one it seems that you think someone is pushing Beck to run for some Office. Is this the case?
If he were to do so he would never be elected, I do not know anyone who would vote for him. I truly do not believe he would run anyway. It would be too large of a pay cut.
If he endorsed a serious candidate I would investigate them and consider it though.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Quadrivium
1) Glenn did not say he was against building the mausc at ground zero. He actually said they have the right to build it there.
What he questioned was the funding for it. He knows, like many people who will research the matter, that SOME Muslim groups use the building of a mausc as a monument at or near the site of a great victory. If this is the case then of course it should not be built there.
2) Who cares how much money he is making? Instead let us look at how much the fed is spending!
I hope this next statement will not apply to many but I feel from the post I have read that it will.
If you are jealous over how much money he is making maybe you should try putting down the joint, leaving mommy's cellar/attic/house and do something with your life.
3) The man put together a great event, period. He and those with him helped raise millions for a worthy and noble cause.
Pull your heads out of the sand (sand= media matters and the daily show) come back down to earth, join r-e-a-l-i-t-y and look at the state of this country.
Use a little foresight.
For any of you with children (if mommy will let you have some one of the opposite sex in your room) think of the debt that will be hanging over their heads.
I would gladly and would rather tackle this problem now instead of passing it onto them!
To keep them from becoming slaves to the system.


Okay, first off, it's "mosque" it's hard to take someone seriously who can't spell. Second, never smoked a joint in my 49 years, nor used tobacco of any kind for that matter. Left home at 18 and been on my own ever since. Always worked, still do, and am doing quite well. I still maintain that the people who ran this country into the ground are NOT the ones to hand it back to. I'm all for small government, but it's a matter of opinion as to what exactly the government DOES need to get into. Deregulation led us to a financial crisis, numerous dead miners and oil rig workers and a gulf full of oil. Nice track record. And yet the same people who scream and yell that the government needs to stay out of things want to tell women what to do with their bodies, and make a constitutional amendment denying rights to certain people. It's hypocritical. I'm not for abortion, I hate it. But I'm not going to stand in judgment and tell a rape victim they have to have their rapists baby. Just take care of it before it has a central nervous system. It's still bad, but at least there's no pain or awareness involved. Sorry, this has become off topic, I think. Old men tend to ramble. I happen to have 2 beautiful children, one will be 21 this year, the other is still in school. If you were at all familiar with reality you'd know that the Bush tax cuts helped create the deficit. You'd also know that it only benefits 3% of Americans. How exactly is that adequate representation? Back to deregulation. I guess if you can make money at it it should be okay, right? Then lets legalize prostitution and drug dealing. Dang, lets get rid of child labor laws and go back to putting 6 year olds to work in factories with no safety regulations. Lets abolish the 40 hour work week and overtime. This is the world the Republican agenda would lead to, but by golly there'd be jobs, if only because there'd be a lot of turn over because of dead workers.

Regarding your signature, freedom of religion includes freedom from religion by necessity, or are you saying we have to have SOME form of religion? That's a Masonic view, are you a Mason? Not that there's anyting wrong with that, just curious.



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posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 02:35 PM
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I see why you love Beck. You two are a match made in Heaven. If you have to resort to name calling and unfounded prejudice to make an argument, then you must live a very sad life. You don't know me! You don't even know your "savior" for Christ's sake!


How's that grass taste? Does your shepherd Glenn Beck know you can talk? Or did he just teach you how to baaah in English?

[edit on 29-8-2010 by prepared4truth]



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 04:27 PM
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You are a total creature of the leftist media. Utterly brainwashed to hate whom they hate and love whom they love. Just for your information Sarah Palin was probably the best governor Alaska has ever had. Glenn Beck is great simply because of his ability to educate people and make them aware of what is really going on behind the scenes. This is above top secret and yet here you are promoting essentially the elite NWO, who hates both Sarah and Glenn, because they represent the ordinary common man.

Here are some of Sarah's amazing accomplish including some things even the most psychotic liberal would love, like taking on the oil companies, winning and distributing some windfall profits to ordinary Alaskan citizens.

As I had to say to another poster, I don't hate them. I hold disdain for them, yes, but I don't hate.

And best governor? Please, tell me, does the best governor leave her state during the worst economic period since the depression because she didn't want to go into a "lame duck" session?

Does the best governor leave her people who voted for her so she can become an "analyst" on Faux News?

And Glenn Beck doesn't represent the common man. He represents a group of people who are calling themselves the Tea Party. He represents views on things that are limited to certain religions and groups.

This is no common man, sorry.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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LAME!
Try harder little man!
It was not I but you who started the name calling. If my comment about "living in mommy's house smoking weed" applied to you then I guess I did start it after all and I would like to apologize.......for you not having a life.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by cindyremains

Originally posted by Logarock
Using the Army of God and what their one (1) famous case hardy supports your statement considering all of the thousands killed of late by Islamic nuts and their hundreds of cases.


There are plenty of other Christian terrorists out there but if you like, how about we go with Irish politicians? Are they all to be presumed terrorists? Are there not several nations in the world that have been terrorized by whites of European decent? We better ask them all that too? Hmmm, come to think of it, either example above involves Christians. All Christians and all Muslims and all white people and all Irish, or any other European heritage are all the be asked if they are working with terrorists from now on.


Ok we could look at some things like this but the truth is several sects of muslims are so out of hand of late that nothing I can think of outside of this confronts humanity with such a threat of just pure blood letting.

There has been so much killing by these groups over the last few years that any known comparison is just not functional as a means to make any sort of equation.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 09:24 PM
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How long has it been since the last innocent Iraqi or Afghani was killed in this war the Christian George Bush claims his god told him to wage?



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 09:52 PM
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Which is still name calling... right? Doesn't apply to me, but it isn't necessary to propel your argument. Although you never really had one from the beginning because Beck is still a douche.

Difference between our posts is that you actually portray yourself as a sheep.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by cindyremains
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How long has it been since the last innocent Iraqi or Afghani was killed in this war the Christian George Bush claims his god told him to wage?


Well just today some Shhitte or Sunni blew someone up in Iraq.....Taliban killed some election workers and more......and God told them all to do it.

If I had to pick someone talking to God I would just have to go with Bush here.

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