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The person has the obligation and the right to find out why cops are on their property, when they do, the cops have the obligation to tell the person why they are on their property. Your point is pathetic and stupid.
The property owner has a right to protect their property, in that right is also the obligation to find out who they are protecting their property from, if it is the police, it's the property owner's right and obligation to find out themselves that the police are on their property, not the other way around.
Also, in order to arrest someone you have to determine that a crime was committed. That requires an investigation. That is what is happening now. If a crime has found to been committed, the officer will be arrested and arraigned on the charges.
I think that the both of you just want to see this cop fry, I think that the both of you have already decided that he is guilty and you don't give a crap about whether or not he has actually committed a crime.
However, if the possessor is aware of the trespasser, then usually a duty arises to warn the trespasser of dangerous, man-made conditions on the property, such as an electric fence that emits a lethal shock.
First, the true purpose of bail [is] to make sure the defendant shows up for Court. It is particularly important where the defendant is perceived as a flight risk
It is granted based on the past history of the defendant, roots in the community, regular employment, the recommendation of the prosecutor, the type of crime, and the overall likelihood of making all appearances in court and the improbability that the defendant will commit another crime while awaiting trial.
If they charge him without evidence, they won't get a conviction.
I understand that you want him to go down for this. I understand that you hate cops, that's fine, many people on ATS hate cops just for being cops.
And as for someone being on your property, gee, seems to me like it would be common sense to figure out who they are before you go shooting them. But hey, I forgot, this situation is completely devoid of common sense now isn't it?
And since this was not a trespasser but a cop that had the legal right to be on the property,
Do they not know who the killer is. And if this is normal as you imply then you should be able to show me another case that an individual without privilege of affiliation has been the known killer and not been charged. I have challenged you to provide this numerous times and you have failed to do so.
If they charge him with murder and it turns out that it was self defense or something else they will have to let him go.
It would appear that you want a harsher treatment of a cop because he is a cop, now how is that fair? What good would it do to try someone if the prosecution doesn't have enough evidence?
Hirzel worked 13 years as a law enforcement officer in Cathedral City, Calif., near Palm Springs, and three years as a deputy for Kootenai County. He was hired in 2008 by the Spokane County Sheriff’s Office, which has a contract to provide deputies to serve as police officers for Spokane Valley. [Sheriff] Knezovich said Monday he doesn’t know of any disciplinary sanctions levied against Hirzel since he’s worked for his office.
“This isn’t a friendly interview he is heading for. This is a criminal investigation,” Knezovich said. “After that, there will be an administrative review,” which will determine whether any disciplinary measures are warranted.
Spokane County Sheriff officials say they could have placed Hirzel on paid administrative leave and ordered him to remain in the area but that would have required Spokane County to cover the costs of his non-refundable plane tickets and other travel arrangements.
Knezovich also addressed questions about whether Hirzel spoke with Creach prior to the contact or whether the Sheriff’s Office has a policy about contacting business owners prior to parking in their private lots.
“It’s never come up before,” he said. “I don’t know how many thousands of businesses we check. We drive through their parking lots and sometimes we get out of the cars to check to see if doors are locked.”
Parking in private lots is not only accepted, it’s encouraged, he said.
“We might park there to eat lunch or to write reports. It makes us highly visible, which deters crime,” Knezovich said.
Spokane Valley pastor Wayne Scott Creach and his wife had a prearranged system for when the business owner encountered trespassers on the couple’s sprawling nursery and greenhouse complex in Spokane Valley. He’d go outside and shout if there was a problem, at which point she was to call 911, Creach’s son, Alan Creach, said in an interview Tuesday.
Imogene Creach followed that script Aug. 25, calling 911 when she heard what she thought were three shots fired. Alan Creach said his mother could see other patrol cars arriving before she hung up the phone.
He [Alan Creach] said his father apparently noticed the car, put on his pants and slippers, grabbed his .45-caliber pistol and went outside to investigate what he thought was a prowler, Alan Creach said.
“He didn’t take the time to put on his shirt,” Creach said. “My mom heard him leave the bedroom. He thought enough to take his gun, but not enough to get her out of bed.”
Creach said he also learned from detectives that his father’s .45-caliber pistol did not have a round in the chamber, meaning he could not have immediately fired the weapon. He said his father had three or four instances a year where he would hear something going on in his nursery.