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Conspiracy - Side Effects of Fluoride?

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posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 03:15 AM
I was reading this article posted on the ATS Main website titled HISTORY OF SECRET EXPERIMENTATION ON UNITED STATES CITIZENS and I found this particular part interesting:

"Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.

I remember reading somewhere on ATS but I can't recall if someone already made a thread about the serious health efects of fluoride. If fluoride is one of the most toxic substances known to man then why is it widely used?

Is fluoride really that bad for you? Is there a government cover up about the real dangers of fluoride?

[edit on 21-6-2004 by Ocelot]

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 03:18 AM
I don't know about atomic weaponry, but I understand that it is a haz-mat produced in the making of aluminum, one that has been ridded by dumping it into the national water supply for decades.
Drink up, everybody. Any questions why I prefer beer?

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 03:19 AM
Yes, they used insane amounts I have read, for nuclear testing. Rumors of fluoride use go into the Nazi experiments, could be propaganda but what isn't.

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 03:21 AM

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
one that has been ridded by dumping it into the national water supply for decades.

So if fluoride is as dangerous to humans as it sounds why is it being dumped in the national water supply? Aren't they poisoning us by dumping that # in our water?

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 03:26 AM
I did some searching and I found this old thread from last year that covers this same subject:

Shocking News About Fluoride

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 03:27 AM
There have been a number of unsuccessful action groups in Australia against fluoridation. I'm against it too.

There's beem another discussion on ATS about this too -

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 03:31 AM

Originally posted by Bastet
There's beem another discussion on ATS about this too -

Thanks for posting that link. That thread has some good information on it.

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 03:47 AM

CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 03:59 AM

Fluoride Action Network!
Did you know?

* The vast majority of western Europe has rejected water fluoridation.

* The fluoride chemical added to water is an unprocessed, industrial waste-product from the pollution scrubbers of the phosphate fertilizer industry.

* A growing body of evidence indicates that water fluoridation is both ineffective and unnecessary.

* Fluoride's 'benefits' are primarily topical, not systemic. Thus, there is no need to swallow fluoride.

* Two-thirds of US communities, when given the chance to vote, have voted against fluoridation. Over 60 US communities have rejected water fluoridation since 1999.

* Excessive exposure to fluoride has been linked to health problems, including arthritis, hip fracture, hypothyroidism, cancer, male reproductive problems, and brain disorders.

* Children are receiving too much fluoride today, not "too little". There is a need to reduce, not increase, current exposures.

* As a result of excess exposure to fluoride, near-epidemic numbers of children are developing dental fluorosis (a poisoning of tooth-forming cells).

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 04:04 AM
Something else comes to mind, but I cannot remember the date & haven't had time to research it for this post - about a proposed meeting of anti-fluoridation protesters in Tasmania [Hobart I THINK] being banned by the Tas Gov't, something like the Riot Act - this was a long time ago, take it for what it's worth, cos I got rid of the mountain of paperwork, correspondence etc from my activist days as I grew older.

However, you might find something of interest in these links, although there's a lot of reading therein -

Edit - these are specific cases from some of Ocelot's links

2nd Edit - I found the Tasmanian reference. Its story began in 1968
"Tasmanian Inquiry into fluoridation supports fluoridation
Tasmania bans local councils form holding referenda on fluoridation, making it compulsory. (In 1995 the lower House passes a Bill making it illegal to hold public meetings to discuss fluoridation, which was overturned by the upper House.)"

The history of fluoridation is a long read, musch skullduggery & many aspersions cast on medical "research" & university experts, eveb Harvard -

[edit on 21/6/04 by Bastet]

[edit on 21/6/04 by Bastet]

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 07:27 AM
It makes a scary acid in the form of hydro-fluoric acid as used by the semiconductor industry. It attacks calcium. If it got on your hand or arm or anywhere else, it proceeds to move inside your body like being drawn to your bones like a magnet. It doesn't hurt until it reacts with the bones or teeth. I hear the pain is one of the most terrible you can experience.
If it is caught immediately, you can apply a gel to the site of absorbtion and draw the acid out before it hits the bones. But if you wait, the only treatment is to peel all the tissue from the bone and rub the bone down with ice water. Pretty horrifying.

Makes you wonder if fluoride toothpaste isn't designed to etch teeth to keep you buying it. Now that would be a conspiracy.

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 08:24 AM
I used to live and work, as a paramedic, near (what I was told at the time) the nations largest maker and user of hydrofluoric acid (a plant just outside of corpus christi, tx in aransas pass)... we carried kits in our ambulances that comprised of calcium glutinate gel and calcium chloride as an injectable for a severe exposure (i've never heard about the ice water on bones thing...but maybe there is some surgical intervention)...basicly fluorine follows calcium, so it is absorbed by the gel on the skin and the by the CaCL given IV.

i'm sure there are more chemistry minded people that could explaine the entire process better then any case the place gave me the creeps, lol. ( as did the never ending line of train tanker cars that were filled with the stuff )

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 08:54 AM
Always known fluoride wasn't good for regular human consumption.

My parents have always been strongly against the use of it in water, they only buy non-fluoride toothpaste, and don't drink the local water. Never really tried to figure out why they put it in the water, but in grade school, many years ago, a person from the water company was there. He said that they put fluoride in the water for some use, and it also helps your teeth. A big deal, yes.

Sort of sounds like the Romans and using lead drinking cups, leading to lead poisoning.

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 08:59 AM
I can't get hold of non-fluoride toothpaste in regular stores, supermarts or pharmacies in Oz. Only places that sell it are health food stores here.

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 09:25 AM
I'm a waterplant operator for a large city and can tell you that we add HFL to our water. HFL is a regulation to be added. At this time we are adding 400mls/min to 41mgd which is a trace amount. The main purpose of HFL is for the prevention of tooth decay as with toothpaste. HFL alone is highly dangerous of course but in trace amounts it is fine.

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 09:59 AM
Well, that's what you've been told, I See You.

I recommend you read the world history of fluoridation here, particularly why it came to be, also the interesting tit-bits re the Manhattan Project, and the number of countries that have discontinued its use - -

or if that's too daunting, check out any of Ocelot's links on the 1st page of this thread. Then see if you still have the same opinion about the use of fluoridation.

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 10:07 AM
I think it's highly suspicious the idea that "reducing tooth decay" is a worth-while reason to add fluoride to a nations drinking water.

What's wrong with toothbrushes and a "don't forget to clean your teeth, kids" campaign? Are bad teeth really such a danger to society?

posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 10:12 AM
Prevention of tooth decay has nothing whatsoever to do with fluoridation. False data, false research, kickbacks & assorted skullduggery is what it's all been about.

posted on Jun, 24 2004 @ 05:42 AM
when i was a toddler i had to ingest flouride pills...tasted like grape. none better for the taste, but that's just as well. i never really took a liking to sliding these down the hatch. now what other poisons must i avoid ::paces off::

posted on Jun, 24 2004 @ 06:02 AM
There's no doubt that fluoride is a cumulative poison. It has been falsely touted as a preventative measure against dental caries, & these claims have been backed by shonky research and false data. And it's all in the name of aluminium companies being paid for toxic by-products.

Many countries, including most of Europe & Japan, have discontinued fluoridation of water supplies, yet the clout of the aluminium industry is still strong. Despite various appeals to high courts in Australia, and 1000's of signatories on petitions, we're still stuck with fluoridated water.

Pollution and toxic additives/chemicals seem to be a part of our society. Check out your state/country in that world history of fluoride link & shiver at the real story.

I bought a reverse osmosis water filter years ago, & replace the membrane every year or two. Another benefit of this filter came into play a few years ago too. When Sydney's water supply was contaminated for several weeks with guardia & cryptosporidium, there were daily reminders in all media for us to boil our water for a full minute - but this did not apply to those who had installed a reverse osmosis filter.

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