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Yet another suspicious aircraft (seconds before the 2nd impact).

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posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 06:33 AM
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As there are several posts spread through many threads circulating atm, I thought i`d start a new thread rather than post this in another, where it would probably go unnoticed.

The source video can be found here.....

www.history.com...#/home/

(NYU Dorm).

As there is no time counter on the original I have copied the important part, so as to give a better indicator of when to look for the helicopter, which appears just seconds before the 2nd impact, around the 1:58 seconds mark.....


(click to open player in new window)


I have also copied a few frames and marked the helicopter plus the glow which appears to be associated with the chopper as it disappears around the West face of WTC1.



The glow in full affect.......



A small glow can be seen (the wrong trajectory to be the incoming Jetliner?)



Boom, just how near was this chopper to the 2nd strike, I think this can rule out an exclusion zone breaking T.V. crew, as this would have been by far the best footage of the actual 2nd impact.



Just as unnoticed as his arrival, the chopper departs, no matter which agency, military, NYPD, or whichever Dept. that chopper belonged to, the crew had a brush with death, and a miraculous escape that warranted a whole heap of media attention, and not to mention several guest spots on reality T.V. shows that depict brushes of death etc, etc. But to this day I have never seen any reports associated with this aspect whatsoever.



So, my conclusion is thus, if there was a gap to be filled re - the last mile or so of a remote controlled journey, then this chopper fits it nicely.

[edit on 27-8-2010 by Seventh]




posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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Here is another video showing (I think) the same helicopter. This video however was shot from north of the towers.

The airliner hitting the south tower must have passed fairly close to the chopper, I agree.

What I find extremely odd is that many of the videos of the same event do not show that helicopter when it should be in the field of view.

Perhaps someone can tell us who was in that helicopter.




posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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looks like the 2nd plane to me......comes in from the right around the back of the tower on the right smashes into the tower on the left on the other side. Why have you not considered that????????? and that supposed helicopter is nothing more than debris being thrown out from the tower.....sheesh.....

[edit on 27/8/2010 by loner007]



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 10:14 AM
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By the time of the second aircraft strike every camera in Manhattan was aimed at the WTC and news both police and news helicopters were orbitting the WTC complex filming the event. I KNOW you know this becuase all the aerial video taken from above during the second strike were taken from these news helicopters.

It's becoming blatantly obvious from the conspiracy people's heavy use of "isn't THAT interesting (wink wink)" innuendo dropping that they have zero tangible evidence of any conspiracy, so they have to resort to manufacturing their own to create a veneer of possible impropriety, from "Bush's cousin was in charge of WTC security" to "Prescott Bush had links to Hitler" to "Condi Rice had an oil tanker named after her" to now "suspicious aircraft around the WTC". *This* is what the truthers' are demanding that we need new investigations over?!?

The truthers have a lot of nerve referring to themselves as truthers becuase I've seen absolutely nothing truthful from their presentations. All I'm seeing is a deliberate disinformation campaign to get people all paranoid over shadows. This bit is really stretching, even by your standards.



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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Here is a better view 35 secs in



news or police chopper?

[edit on 27-8-2010 by remymartin]



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 11:03 AM
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What a powerful video in the OP. Sad to see it in so much close detail like that


Certainly a lot to analyse though.

GoodOlDave said: "they have zero tangible evidence of any conspiracy" - come on, you really think that? I will readily admit that there are some ridiculous claims like they were holograms and stuff but you really believe there is NO tangible evidence of ANY conspiracy?

I cannot be bothered to get in to the usual arguments about this so just take that as a rhetorical question but it really amazes what some people see or rather don't see about this event.



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by Frakkerface
GoodOlDave said: "they have zero tangible evidence of any conspiracy" - come on, you really think that? I will readily admit that there are some ridiculous claims like they were holograms and stuff but you really believe there is NO tangible evidence of ANY conspiracy?


No, there isn't any tangible evidence of any conspiracy. Any so-called evidence they present is simply innuendo dropping (I.E. Bush's cousin was in charge of WTC security), unproven and unprovable statements (I.E. Bin Laden's kidney issues), facts intentionally taken out of context (I.E. Silverstein;s, "Pull it" statement) to even outright lies (I.E. no interceptors were scrambled). That's not counting the arrogant and childish accusations that everyone from Bush to Obama to NIST to NORAD to the NYPA to FEMA to even the Red Cross of being involved in the conspiracy and/or the coverup.

If you have genuine tangible evidence, what say you actually start presenting it instead of wasting our time with these "Bush knew someone, who knew someone, who knew someone, who knew someone, who knew someone, who knew Hitler" bullsh*t games?



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 12:21 PM
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I apologize on behalf of the 'devious truthers' for letting you get so 'led astray' as to why we demand a new investigation. This thread is very much speculation, and I agree that it was probably a news chopper.

However, that does not mean you can characterize the entire movement as baseless speculation.

Please, deny ignorance and take 20 minutes of your precious time to watch these two videos and educate yourself on many of the most important aspects of the event:








posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 04:29 PM
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If it was a news chopper they had no camera aboard - or - they didn't want to show the footage and/or pictures they got.

That was a front row seat to disaster whoever was in it. I thought all NYPD choppers were blue, perhaps it was a Port Authority?

Good ol'dave - Perhaps you can explain why the camera shakes and the pigeon flies off before the plane impacts the south tower?

OMG the pigeon was remote controlling the plane!



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by loner007
looks like the 2nd plane to me......comes in from the right around the back of the tower on the right smashes into the tower on the left on the other side. Why have you not considered that????????? and that supposed helicopter is nothing more than debris being thrown out from the tower.....sheesh.....

[edit on 27/8/2010 by loner007]


really? i dont think we watched the same video. at all. There is clearly something in the air, before, while, and after the plane hit, so I would say that NO, it was not the plane, or debris, for it is much to large to be debris.

[edit on 27-8-2010 by Le Colonel]



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 04:13 AM
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oh boy cant even edit my post. Darn never watch clips with blur with blurred eyes....it is indeed a helicopter not an aeroplane that came in from the right....pie slap in the face please



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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Good ol dave- please stop living in the 50's. I can tell by your avatar.

The government is not comprised of nice people, at least not many, most are out for some personal vendetta in life, i recently spoke with a guy joining the army because he just wants to F* things up so he said.

Now if this mentality exists, it makes sense that more devious mentalities exist and are present within our government body.

Yes g.o.d. (good ol dave) your wisdom is morally superior to all truthers because they have suspicions based on suspect things. Maybe its not tangeble enough for you, but nonetheless its highly suspect that the riechstag did get burned to start hitlers dream of conquest and maybe the servant bush family decided to try a similar tactic to further a gloablist socialist agenda in the world using 9-11 as an excuse, if so that makes millions of american so called patriots who love seeing innocent iraqis and afghans die, criminaly complicit in their leaders crimes. Hell why not just nuke the middle east if they hate them that much? Oh why not that, because they need the resources to sell back home. You know, oil, guns, drugs, precious artifacts and such..



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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[edit on 28-8-2010 by okbmd]



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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Wow! Those were some awesome (yet sad) videos I've never seen before.

What I find incredibly interesting is, not one person captured any of the planes actually hitting. I mean, some cameras were filming the first impact then, they cut away only to show the aftermath of the second impact. Did they all get bored after the first impact then, took a coffee break, only to start filming again in 15-20 minutes??

I find this highly suspicious!



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:43 AM
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OP......is that even an helicopter???? I keep playing and pausing and I'm not even sure that's what that was. I know it appears to be one but that may be because, that's what our rationale tells us it is. Can that be a remote controlled unmanned drone?

Whatever it was, it had to have flown straight into the 'path' of the second impact. It was on the correct side of the second tower at the exact right moment!

Just............wow. I mean, WTF was that and is it on any other 'just found and released' film anywhere?



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:56 AM
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I am trying to respect your point of view but after reading your signature 'quote' I gotta say, you are very misinformed.

9-11 was NOT an Osama job. Firstly, he denied it. One would think if he was behind this than, he'd stick a feather in his turban and gloat about the unprecedented victory he had just pulled off!

Secondly....he's still 'free' and the USA is not even looking for him anymore. If he was responsible for killing 3000 people on our own land, wouldn't you think he'd be hung by now?

I don't know about you but if I am wanted for running a red light, 'they' would trace and find me within a day.

So Dave.....you're wrong. This was NOT an Osama-job. This was a Globalist job.



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 07:52 PM
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Now I have everyone`s attention, I think we can all agree on one aspect of this topic, and that is... No matter what that chopper was up to, there was indeed a chopper there, so the $64,000 dollar question here is, (curtsey of radar) that chopper knew there was an unidentified aircraft heading towards them flying at an irregular altitude and none conformal flight path, at a speed way behind the capability of any other aircraft known to be around this zone at the time (choppers belonging to either NYPD, T.V.Crews, or possible military units). It is a safe bet this chopper had picked up on the unknown craft hurtling towards them, a few minutes before impact, why did the crew not relay this information to the relative personal available, instead of reacting in the most unexplainable way conceivable, and headed instead, to within metres of where it was to crash?.



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by Seventh
 


OP......is that even an helicopter???? I keep playing and pausing and I'm not even sure that's what that was. I know it appears to be one but that may be because, that's what our rationale tells us it is. Can that be a remote controlled unmanned drone?

Whatever it was, it had to have flown straight into the 'path' of the second impact. It was on the correct side of the second tower at the exact right moment!

Just............wow. I mean, WTF was that and is it on any other 'just found and released' film anywhere?


If you go to the exact point where it appears in the original video you can clearly see it is a helicopter
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posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 08:36 AM
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Huh??

Are you experiencing any pain? You know, from stretching so far??


...that chopper knew there was an unidentified aircraft heading towards them flying at an irregular altitude and none conformal flight path...


?????

HOW did you reckon this??


You don't think the helicopter's crew were interested in the BURNNG BUILDING, do you??
Maybe THAT is why it was there???


It is a safe bet this chopper had picked up on the unknown craft hurtling towards them...


Only in "Imagination Land".



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker



Are you experiencing any pain? You know, from stretching so far??


Nope, all fine, thx.




?????

HOW did you reckon this??


You`re a pilot, are you saying helicopters do not have radar etc?.


You don't think the helicopter's crew were interested in the BURNNG BUILDING, do you??
Maybe THAT is why it was there???


They were so interested in burning buildings as soon as WTC2 was hit, they buggered off.

Why not answer my question in my OP, why is there no data available explaining how that chopper crew narrowly missed death, especially from the MSM whom managed to record the 2nd plane hitting, but all failed to notice the chopper which was dicing with death, which by all accounts would be a very newsworthy scoop.




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