I usually like your post, mnemeth1, so I watched the whole thing. I have to disagree with your assessment. I didn't really see the slam dunk win you saw. Block did have the more logical argument, IMO, but his presentation and organization left a lot to be desired.

Add to that neither side really addressed the "value" of the money for which people are busting their butts. What good is it to argue for or against a minimum wage when your wages are essentially smoke and mirrors anyway?

Well I for one openly admit I ain't watching an hour of something mnemeth liked. It is costly enough for me to waste my time on correcting him constantly.

So what is your real beef with minimum wage, welfare, social justice, and the working poor? You keep pointing to so many different reasons that I tend to believe the real reason is one you're hiding. Is it a deep hatred for seeing bums begging for change? Is it the "baby machine" single mothers scamming the welfare system? Is it that you believe you are somehow better, and have higher moral character than them? Have you been victimized by a poor person? Attacked? Raped?

Both these guys are terrible speakers and both of them clealy look at things from an academic stand point. The truth is they both are corrent about somethings and wrong about others. I can not pick a winner from that mess. Although I would say we all may be a little dumber for having to listen to the two of them.

please do some research on why the minimum wage was first made into a law. the reasons behind it are fully spelled out in simple english.

if you wish for the US to become another cambodia, laos, or vietnam...by all means you can advocate for no minimum wage. capitalism, in its truest form, works brilliantly in those countries.

double post




[edit on 26-8-2010 by mnemeth1]

Block Won.

Hands down.

His opponent pulled out the sort of straw man argument/false dichotomy crap I expect to see on the interwebs - not flowing from a professors mouth. Alas.

[edit on 27-8-2010 by Exuberant1]