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One World Government, A Cure for Hunger, Poverty and War.

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posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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I know the title of this thread might sound like the exact opposite to what some people on ATS believe but just bare with me.

The first problem is establishing the OWG that’s probably the hardest part of all. We would have to abolish all state boundaries, there would be no America, Europe, Russia, China, Israel and so on. I really don’t think this cannot be done with diplomacy, it can only be done by force. The OWG would not become an OWG until it had conquered all states and expanded its territory. For the purpose of this thread we will call the territory the OWG controls Pangaea.

Let’s assume that Pangaea starts with America and the EU, so this means that America and all EU states become a single state called Pangaea and the old states become “lower states”. However each of these lower states maintains their own devolved government, a “lower house of government” .It would work a bit like the powers of state level government in America or the devolved governments of the UK or if you like the EU. All of these lower houses of government would report to the Federal government of the OWG. The OWG would not have a President but rather the leader of each of the lower houses of government who is democratically elected would sit in the federal OWG all making the global decisions. Each time a new lower state enters into the OWG they would be given a lower house of government and a seat in the OWG however every lower house of government have the same devolved powers.

To become a member of Pangaea any state can chose to join provided the meet the conditions set out by the federal OWG. For those states how chose not to join, or don’t meet the conditions, force should be used to bring them inline, undoubtedly this would lead to WWIII and Millions would die. At the end however only Pangaea would exist as a soul sovereign state of earth and it would be governed by the OWG ruthlessly any region who sought to challenge the OWG would be punished as would any detected corruption. The OWG could also overrule any decision made by the lower houses of government. Slowly Spanish would become the global language.


This might seem harsh but in the long run think of the advantages.

All taxes from Pangaea would go to the OWG and the redistributed to between all of the lower houses of government throughout Pangaea based on the population of the lower states. Food production would be the same, as would fuel production. Everybody would receive a fair quota of all commodities not based on their ability to pay but by the number of citizens of Pangaea they serve. Religious people would either be forced to get along or their religion outlawed. It would not be possible for any region to go to war, for there would be nobody to go to war with. All military institutions would be disbanded with the only military force being that of the OWG. Nuclear weapons could all be destroyed or at the very least vastly reduced. There would be no barriers to human expunction and progression, technological innovation would be encouraged.

The OWG would eradicate hunger, war, poverty and social injustice by force. Slowly of perhaps hundreds of years this would become the norm, think of what we could achieve as not separate competing states but as one state dedicated to promoting the human species.

I know this is a far from perfect idea, but it can be summarised by me saying this. If the goal of the NWO is to bring about an OWG and use this to eradicate poverty, hunger, war and social injustice globally, be it by force or otherwise. They have my support, even if it means abandoning my national identity and WWIII.




posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:05 PM
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So,
One world government .... if millions need to die so that everybody gets screwed equally then that's what you'd like to see?

No rights, no heritage , no history, no future beyond being alloted what the planetary dictatorship tells you it will be?

That's got to be the most depressing post I've read in a year and a half on ATS.

I hope, for the worlds sake, that your type of ..... logic.... isn't widespread.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:09 PM
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As far as hunger goes, ask the members of the former USSR what it was like during the heyday. Stand in lines for hours to get your government allotment of bread.

As for poverty, sure, no more poverty. It will be called a uniform standard of allotment. Everybody equally poor but the ruling class. Yess, they will still be there even in your Orwellian dreams.

No more war? Only after conquering the entire planet and then holding it by force. In other words war will be replaced with vanquisment.

Utopia. Coming to an insane asylum near you soon.

Sorry, double post so just carried on.
Edited for clarification.

[edit on 25-8-2010 by badgerprints]



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:11 PM
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Well you would still have rights, they might be different but you would have rights. You will always have your history and to some extent individual heritage however most nationalistic culture would be gone. The idea of this is to promote human advancement and equality not to slow it or stop it.

Can you let me know when you find one more depressing? I personally find the ones about terminal illness quite depressing or the ones about the more disturbing facets of humanity.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:15 PM
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Sorry I replied when you were still continuing with your post.

This is just an idea, I would like to be more socialist than communist but in reality it would probably spawn its own ideology. I think you might be assuming that I am a communist because of some of the stuff you are saying, I am not.

This whole idea is utopian, it’s the best case scenario, and I know that it’s going to be impossible to have no corruption. You might not like it fair enough, I won’t really argue with you, you’re entitled to your opinion on it.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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Those are depressing but they involve here and now for individuals.

The lack of a free future for humanity is about as depressing a thought as I can concieve.

Living as an ant in a 7 or 8 billion member ant hill with no voice, recourse or opportunity that isn't sanctioned by the global ruling class is simply a recipe for despair.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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Sorry,
It did this the other day and there were 17 duplicate posts.
Don't know why.



[edit on 25-8-2010 by badgerprints]



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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Sorry,
again

[edit on 25-8-2010 by badgerprints]



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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the theory is reasonable but would never work in reality.
the OWG would have a committee for resource (money, food) distribution; the members of the committee will ensure their countries get more and better. countries/areas will bribe their way to extra; some will be left out.

military members (individual and national) will balk at being told to invade/punish countries without clear reason for war.

'everyone would receive a fair share based on population' this will bring the same problem as communism; how will you motivate one group of people to work hard to benefit another group of people? why would country A join Pangaea only to see their hard work go to country B? (see Germany this spring reacting to the Greek debt) related issue; who determines a fair amount of taxes? by population? GDP?

at some point you have to have a single head of state. that's just how it works.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:27 PM
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well, you are indeed playing the devils advocate here..
"many will grow to hate the new world order and will die fighting it" H G Wells 1940.
if you really believe in the nwo agenda, then you will be a part of the most
evil plot i can think of.. so you would be turning me in then? it would be your duty.
for i will fight it. tooth and nail if it comes to that. this isnt a hypothetical debate
at a community college..i prepare for the war on humanity
that the nwo is conducting as we speak.
they are murderous, callous thugs. and its all designed to trick you.
army of one- one world army- where do you see them waging peace?
helping the environment? uplifting mankind? we lead china in the manufacture of inmates. all we export is death.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 01:38 PM
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Meh. You are an idealist.
Power will be abused.
If not in the first hundred years, then in the next hundred.
Aight?



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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OWG would be too much of power for too few people.
I see slavery instead of food shotages gone.
Maybe it is pessimistic but I don't see your idealism in this.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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I support a one world government for one very simple reason.

We ALREADY have it.

So people might as well be informed about it so that can take action towards it.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by kevinunknown
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Well you would still have rights, they might be different but you would have rights. You will always have your history and to some extent individual heritage however most nationalistic culture would be gone. The idea of this is to promote human advancement and equality not to slow it or stop it.

Can you let me know when you find one more depressing? I personally find the ones about terminal illness quite depressing or the ones about the more disturbing facets of humanity.


Without the right to keep and bear arms, you have no rights... period.

As long as the state has the majority or all firearms, then you do what they let you.

Are you completely insane???

You must be. Without unalienable rights, your are a slave.

What a maroon, as bugs bunny would say...

Jaden



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 02:25 PM
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Since a one world government is the ultimate goal of the elite, is it driven by libido dominandi, and that doesn't allow for many "rights" to ba handed out.

It's almost here anyway. Our rights are steadily eroding and soon we will have two choices: Accept life as a peasant slave, or lock & load.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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I think its better you keep those thoughts to yourself....and I'd love to see your face when that bubble you live in bursts.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 02:33 PM
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This is 100% how it will be sold to the world.

And like previously mentioned, people won't realize there is still a ruling class, they just get to make ALL the rules now.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 03:43 PM
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You are out of your damn mind.

You don't do good by doing evil. This illogical thought process shared by many of the elite in government is what has spread misery and murder throughout the world.

If you really want to cure hunger, develop the replicator: an automated machine process that can exponentially increase the amount of food grown so that all of humanity has food without needing human labor after the initial design of the machine is complete.

The same could be done with construction of buildings so that everyone has a home or construction of clothing or of out of patent medicines or medical technology.


Doing evil in the hopes that good will come from it is never justified. Doing evil makes you an evil person, the evil does not wash off no matter how much good you might later do.



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