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reply posted on 14-3-2003 @ 03:02 PM by Antichrist
My turning point, reading Nietzsche, what Nietzsche's writing has done for me is just to difficult to explain.

I'm quite young I must say, 16 actually, and we all know how a 14, 15 year old thinks and behaves, people at that age are really bothered with seeming extreme or rebellious, that had been my lifestyle for years, since my 14 I had been jumping from relligion to religion and from ways to think each one more extreme, Satanism, National Socialism, Paganism (in the violent way... like "kill the infidels and the enslavers"), but then someone told me about this brand new way of being extreme, through reading Nietzsche.

Now all this changes in my mind didn't change one thing, my denying of anything that would go against the way I thought in a time. I would turn down arguments based on biased opinions and even though I'd reckon they were right and I was wrong I'd like delete that from my mind and go on being sooooooo extreme.

But for the first time I read Nietzsche and about Nietzsche something must have changed because I was really prepared to open my mind to what this guy had to say, I only understood how important that would have been a later thou.

Basically what Nietzsche taught was intelectual honesty, that could be the first premise to all his thought, this changed me completely, I was amazed at the ambiguity and profoundness of Nietzsche's thought, what this ambiguity means is that he says that we must reach absolute freedom, but by accepting that we must reach absolute freedom we are renouncing to our freedom of not accepting to do so, the nihilism paradox is also common, you have to BELIEVE thal BELIEFS ARE WRONG. Just as you have to accept the TRUTH that THERE IS NO TRUTH.

The only way to do so, to be mentally prepared to do so is to be really intelectually honest with yourself and your way to view life and your way to realate with the ways life relates to you, kind of hard to explain with my half-decent english speaking skills but I hope you understand.

To conclude all this has deeply changed by value system, a brand new way of see life, and everything I have writen here for example has made me think about everything I believe in again, everytime I say something seriously I honestly think about what I am really saying and everything I see has a deep effect on me, this is intelectual honesty, one of the values I praise the most.

Also in Nietzsche I came to find lot's of brand new ways of thinking, brand new waysof seeing things, Antichristianism, Nihilism, the Overman, the Death of God and it's impliements in the Human race and in Human evolution.


Btw, deleted, know what? I was really really touched with your post.


reply posted on 15-3-2003 @ 12:32 AM by helen
subject..........life changing moment............


The story actually began a few years earlier. Four years ago, John Marler arrived at the St. Herman of Alaska monastery in Platina, California, weary of life. Though only nineteen, he had already been guitarist in two successful punk-rock bands, Sleep and Paxton Quiggly. Once he found faith in Christ and a home in Orthodoxy, the new monk wanted to bring the same hope to the punk subculture he had just escaped, a community of kids crippled by nihilism and despair.

The St. Herman of Alaska Brotherhood (which sponsors the Platina abbey and several other monasteries) had already begun attracting some kids from the nearby town of Chico, and Mother Neonilla--previously a "serious punker" herself--encouraged Fr. John to reach out to them. The first idea called for fellow-monk Fr. Damascene Christensen, who had recently completed the book Not of this World: The Life and Teaching of Fr. Seraphim Rose, to write an article about Fr. Seraphim for publication in Maximum Rock and Roll. "But as I read over the magazine, I realized there was no way they'd publish something like this," Fr. Damascene recalls.

Next, they decided to try to place an ad, but the editor's response--"What the @#*% is a Brotherhood?"--tipped them off that this wasn't going to fly either. The monks were told, "We only run ads for music and 'zines." (For the uninitiated, a 'zine is a rough, homemade-looking magazine, scissored and pasted and photocopied, and offered cheap or free on the streets.)

cont.............

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reply posted on 15-3-2003 @ 11:46 AM by AF1
Mine actually came about a month ago. About three years ago I lost my little sister to cancer. She was only six years old. I was already having problems with the "concept" of god, and felt that he had abandoned me, even gave up. When I lost my sister that was the last straw. How could God let a little girl die? She hadn't even gotten to see the world. The last three years I was in a constant conflict with god. At first I just rejected it, and focused on other things, boiling up all this anger and resentment inside me. When I got to college (about 7 months ago,) i decided to start trying to search for my own answers. I was extremely frustrated becuase all I would read is how god would show himself to people, yet here I was, constantly searching but he would not show himself to me.

About a month ago I was talking to a friend online and religion came up. He was never a religious person, but when he started going out with this chick she kinda changed him. Even though she is very christian, they ended up sleeping together, and afterward, he felt that he had robbed her of something that was not hers. So he started going to bible study's, then one day while wakling around "god just showed himselft" to him. At this point I was pissed of because her I am, wanting to find a higher meaning, and all he had to do was sleep with someone to find it.

At this point I took a walk, and ended up going down some railroad tracks. Down the tracks i came unto some woods, and walked into them. I just kept going, becuase it felt like it was what i was supposed to do. Well I came unto a clearing, and looked up at the sky. the cold air chilled me, but then I suddenly felt alright. For that brief moment in my life, I felt that everything was alright. More like I knew everything would be fine. It has changed me, for the good I hope.


reply posted on 15-3-2003 @ 07:57 PM by Truth
Ive told this to many people, but for the sake of (arc) ill post it agaain.


I grew up 18 strait years being dumb to everything, i cursed, i sinned, i had an
8th grade education, at the age of 18 i did not even (know) what the word christian meant.

i thought it was an orginization.

Im 21 now.

At 19 after i started of dreaming of this man in a white robe i had a major desire to give up all sins, not just some but
be perfected, do gods will to the fullest, in one case i had this dream about a line of people all in (white) robes, we were walking
behind christ himself in a hallway filled to our knees with blood..


after this dream i was frightened, and found out that in scripture it says blood will come up to the horses bridle, which i think means ill be killed for christ.


After this i read scripture for the first time, sins i saw in there i said to myself and vowed to stop sinning these sins, at one point i have not cursed in about
1 year and still wont.

One night i was watching a sports show, when all of a sudden i left the room for a (drink), when i came back
i swear to you that the channel changed to a religious channel. nobody was home or in my room for this to change
to this channel like this.

I watched and what it was was a topic on something i nver knew before. the end times special. after this i was awakened to what times
we were in and started reading apocolypse and videos on end times..


Since then ive been led to the catholic church through miracles which is a whole nother story in itself.

i have seen to cases of cancer cured through god without medication. im as serious as a heart attack when i say this stuff. i have had more dreams of christ, mary, judgement seat, muslims killing christians, hell, i had
a dream of visiting my friend i hell which was horrifying..



You guys will neverknow why i have this faith until the judgement seat. but im telling you i cannot reject the christ nomatter what
i hear or see on the internet, for before i had this net, maa did not reveal this to me, but literal god in heaven through miracles.


God bless, peace.


[Edited on 16-3-2003 by Truth]


reply posted on 15-3-2003 @ 10:43 PM by helen
miracles in themselves can be deceiving...........


Iwas brought up babtized in the Greek Orthodox church...........and never did i question if there was a God..........just took it for granted................i can tell you that i did not know much Jesus Christ.........just went to church coz i had to.........i mean, it was good, the beautiful icons in the church ,depicting the Lord Jesus and Theotokos(mother of god)were so beautifull to look at but i did not know the history of why i was a christian.....
Dad ,was pretty strict.....no going out, well, not much at all.........
I was always fascinated by wierd things happening........only because they happened to me.........
I loved horror movies,ghosts ,strange occurances,ufos,seances,astrology,tarot cards,anything that was of the unexplained nature.........
i would read books on many of the above mentioned and so i basically lived for wanting more...............
I started to use a ouje board which i made myself..........
Things were great,i was not lonely or alone and knew if i needed to talk to someone i could..............
Many of the above sound pretty much ""safe"" if i could use that word.............
knowing now that it was not just apart of growing up thing ,i was going through, but a cunning and deceitful phenomenon that seemed to draw me to them ........(not wanting to go into great detail here)
people ""Today"" claim that these interests or beleifs or spitual connections or whatever you may call it.............are based on ""truth""and it so connects you with the ""other realm""eg.......oobe....out of body experience(and yes i did try that )
i'm talking too much,sorry...............
Never did "drugs" interest me or influence me in any way..............
School was always good(grew up in the 80s)but then i did not fit in with the rest coz (dad being strict i kept to myself)........
Seances ................did them at school and sorta got a few people interested in what i was doing................
Popularity was not me,i never needed the attention........though it felt good(satisfied me in a self gain way).............

sorry again .........

just thought id share that................

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