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Originally posted by Kaytagg
reply to post by mnemeth1
We can change things through the elctoral process. When is the last time anybody gave a non-MSM candidate more than 5 minutes, then dismissed them as "crazy," or "unelectable."
Btw, if you think there is going to be some kind of armed conflict resolution to your perceived problems with america, whether real or fake, it's not going to happen. I hope you fully understand that trying to overthrow the government through violence isn't an option.
Originally posted by rakkasansct
So how does that work? Is everyone in the private government or only a select few? How long do you think it would last before they started taxing everyone? Who would provide protection against criminal elements? Everyone together all for one? You would have the same situation were in now. The government is not the problem. Its the mass of people not standing up to their government that is the problem.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by Demoncreeper
So threatening arrest of debtors does not involve violence?
I have a hard time following your logic.
So if I refused to pay, the police should hand me a lollipop and tell me I'm a bad person?
Originally posted by dfens
It seems to me that the cost of enforcement would net negative gain.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by rakkasansct
So are you advocating for a monarchy? Or what form of govt do you think we should have?
no, I'm arguing for no State.
We should have a private law government administered by private common law courts.
Originally posted by SmokeandShadow
Wait, wait...private as in corporate "for profit"? That doesn't seem too much better if at all. Can you clarify?
And yeah, all 7000 should have given the bird and went back to what they were doing.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by Demoncreeper
Yeah, being arrested ALSO entails violence being waged against your person to accomplish the goal of depriving you of your rights.
ie. your rights are deprived through the use of violent action.
This is how rights are always deprived - through violence.
In a world where no one could cause physical harm to another person or their property against their will, taxes would be impossible to collect.
Originally posted by Demoncreeper
That 77 year old woman wasn't afraid that the government would strong arm her for a couple thousand dollars. She was afraid of spending her final years in jail.
Warrants were issued for 7,000 taxpayers, and many of them showed up at the same time, eager to set up payments on overdue state taxes to avoid arrest.
"We received an inordinate amount of warrants from the Indiana Department of Revenue," said Julio Fernandez, spokesman for MCSD.
An arrest warrant is a warrant issued by and on behalf of the state, which authorizes the arrest and detention of an individual.
The word 'arrest' when used in its ordinary and natural sense, means the apprehension or restraint of a person, or the deprivation of a person's liberty.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by Demoncreeper
That 77 year old woman wasn't afraid that the government would strong arm her for a couple thousand dollars. She was afraid of spending her final years in jail.
What do you thing the threat of jail was if not "strong arming" the old lady?
It simply astonishes me that you don't see the threat of imprisonment as violent. But since you said "I've arrested..." I have a better idea of why you dont see it as violent. You're on of the perpetrators. The enforcer rarely questions the mob boss. He just uses simple minded justification to get beyond something he doesnt quite understand like "just pay your taxes."