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Originally posted by Buddywhasisname
reply to post by Demoncreeper
Dude......you do know that taxes are a fraud....right?
Your taxes go to pay the interest on the national debt.......that the government owes the fed/international foriegn interests. Think about it.....why would a nation give up it's right to print their own currency backed by something of value......only to give it to a private organization to print and have it lent back to them at interest? Why? Isn't it funny how the federal reserve act and the 16th amendment were passed rather surreptitously in the same year?
Check it out before you become a mouthpiece for the tyrants that want your liberty.......
pay you damn taxes.........what a joke
I said threats - threats - threats of violence.
Threating to arrest someone for not paying their taxes is a violent threat against their person.
If you don't pay, bad things are physically going to happen to you.
The State takes great pains to hide the violence as much as possible and to diffuse it across as wide a spectrum of actors as possible.
For example, what would happen to the business owners that don't agree to automatically fork over their employees taxes?
What would happen to the bank owners that refuse to cooperate in account confiscation?
Ultimately - the ultimate end of this collection process is the gun.
If we were to create a situation where no government employee could own a gun, yet every citizen could own a gun, we could justifiably say the forcible collection of non-voluntary taxes would be impossible.
By this definition, the O.P. is consistent with his standards.
I did not lie.
Sending out arrest warrants is a violent threat.
The article specifically says "arrest" - I can read - I have two eyes.
Thus, I did not lie.
the pro-taxers in this thread and specifically the people saying there was nothing violent about issuing 7000 warrants for people's arrest (either of person or property it matters not) are brainwashed into believing if no one gets physically beat or shot then no violence has occurred, they can't see the shades of gray.
Originally posted by Demoncreeper
Originally posted by Buddywhasisname
reply to post by Demoncreeper
Dude......you do know that taxes are a fraud....right?
Your taxes go to pay the interest on the national debt.......that the government owes the fed/international foriegn interests. Think about it.....why would a nation give up it's right to print their own currency backed by something of value......only to give it to a private organization to print and have it lent back to them at interest? Why? Isn't it funny how the federal reserve act and the 16th amendment were passed rather surreptitously in the same year?
Check it out before you become a mouthpiece for the tyrants that want your liberty.......
pay you damn taxes.........what a joke
Learn to read.
I'm Canadian.
Your "amendments" are for the U.S.
Also, the title is still misleading as stated in my original first post. Which was my original point.
It's not my fault YOU feel oppressed, sad, angry and think the world owes you just because you were born in it...
I just worked for the laws that the citizens called for. If that is a terrible contribution to society, then so be it. My intent wasn't to be oppressive and tyrannical. The whole tax evasion bit is wishy washy anyways. .
I also haven't ever said the system is perfect. It is far from it. But a job is a job and I did mine with some pride due to my strong WORK ethics. I never thought I was Joe MOUNTIE 24-7 (Off duty). I felt good about providing a roof, food and shelter for my family. I enjoy my time with the family much more than I enjoy my job. And I liked my job. My job was what enabled quality time with the family. But I did enjoy being able to help people as a job. Not tyranically dictating them. You all need to get over yourselves and stop stereotyping people with your eyes closed..
If you don't want to be a positive member of society, so be it. You are still subject to their laws while here. Advocate for change, that is your right under the FREEDOMS you have here.
[edit on 26-8-2010 by Demoncreeper]
Originally posted by Buddywhasisname
pffffffff...........The same thing is going on here (I am Canadian also) and the rest of the "civilized" world.
Don't tell me how I feel.....you know nothing...the world owes me nothing....it just has to let me be me.....(which is a pretty good dude by the way)...and now you claim to be a judge as to who is a positive member of society???? And that seems to bench on paying fraudulant taxes????? Keep the brain and heart off and just listen eh? Pitiful.
I'm sure you helped people.....no doubt about that.....but did you ever think that you have no right to enforce a "law" that forbids me from putting what I want in my own body?(or is it mine? hmmmm......) or collecting rainwater? Or crossing the street in a particular spot? The list goes on and on and on. You have the gall to talk about freedom.
Get your head on straight......I didn't call for any of these "laws" to be enforced on me. I am not SUBJECT to anyone or anything, save my creator. They are en-FORCED under threat of violence. There is only one law, treat others with respect and dignity. Do unto others.....you know what I mean.
As long as people have the "a job is a job", "Just pay your taxes" mentality.........the world will continue to be a really weird and messed up place to be.
Originally posted by Violater1
reply to post by Demoncreeper
Misleading title???????????
Have you ever been arrested before?
Handcuffed (for you, I mean unwillingly
just kidding)! booked and thrown in jail with a bunch screaming, crotch holding animals?
Yes!
It is Violent!
You shouldn't be so indignant and insensitive.