I think I found out why America is in so much debt, the OP charts explain it all. All of those agencies, departments, operations, companies, directors, and on and on are incredibly expensive to run and operate. I can't fathom the money spent on that list alone in a year, 10 years? egads.

Then you add on the so called entitlement programs, which is an insult to those on social security who actually paid into the system, if it's your money, why is it an entitlement when the holder of your money gives it back to you at a later date?

Anyhow, you add the wars, the salaries and benefits of government employees, soldiers, contractors, etc. It's no wonder we are in the hole.

I think that if there was a 30 second report on the news each night stating the total government income from taxes and fees, the total government spending that day on salaries, and "other business", and a running tally of the deficits/debts to date, there would be a different situation today, there would be no OWS, because the citizens would have put a stop to the madness years ago.

The fact is that no one really has a clue anymore as to the extent that their tax dollars are being spent each day. I think that the financial situation would have been corrected long ago, if we were informed.

Our ignorance is our fault.

Originally posted by AutomaticSlim
I think I found out why America is in so much debt, the OP charts explain it all. All of those agencies, departments, operations, companies, directors, and on and on are incredibly expensive to run and operate. I can't fathom the money spent on that list alone in a year, 10 years? egads.

Then you add on the so called entitlement programs, which is an insult to those on social security who actually paid into the system, if it's your money, why is it an entitlement when the holder of your money gives it back to you at a later date?

Because some people who didn't pay in that much are getting much more money (older generation vs younger generation), this is especially true with Medicare. Put in your medicare taxes in an investment account. How long would it last? Maybe from age 65 to age 67. To be fair Medicare would keep track of every piece of money and cut you off. Note that private insurance for YOUNGER people is now $1500 a month, for that age group it woudl be $3000-$4000 a month. How much money would you need to accumulate so that annunitized you'd get that income? Well over a million, probably two million. How much did people pay in Medicare taxes? Far, far far less.

It is far from being balanced, but the political problem is that if somebody paid taxes (no matter how much or how little), they feel entitled to substantial benefits, even if this means that future (i.e. me) will have to pay much higher taxes and get much lower benefits.

Anyhow, you add the wars, the salaries and benefits of government employees, soldiers, contractors, etc. It's no wonder we are in the hole.

No, government salaries aren't at all the problem. They're actually pretty small. On the macroscale the big changes:

a) exploding medical care (active resistance to any cost controls), mostly Medicare but also government/military/VA benefits
b) extra wars
c) lowering tax rates

If, for instance, say Gore had been elected, and there was (a) no Iraq War, and (b) same tax rates as in Clinton administration, then the financial position would be much better.

Note that the Bush administration & Congress added a significant new socialized medicine program (Medicare D) with NO added tax or revenue to pay for it (and now Republicans harp on Obamacare falsely for being socialized medicine, when in truth it is guaranteed-profits-for-private-insurers-medicine). So everybody 65 and older now gets subsidized pharmaceuticals as well, and they never paid any tax for this during their working lives, but they feel very "entitled" to it at others' expense.

The fact is that no one really has a clue anymore as to the extent that their tax dollars are being spent each day. I think that the financial situation would have been corrected long ago, if we were informed.

Our ignorance is our fault.

I disagree. People have known where and how much the money is going.

Hi,

Thanks very much for this comment. It help me to think about my ideals.

Tks again and pls keep posting.

Wow...to organise all these departments and organisations must have taken serious time of some serious individuals. Now that we know it is all there and costing us and many soldiers an arm, a leg..., should we get rid of it all....? I mean, somebody has to watch those UFOs entering our atmosphere.

Watching for UFOs is what they do alright and video tape their achievment in
taking over Nikola Tesla achievement. Why are their agents still fooling themselves.
According to Lyne the CIA or cartels brought out a gang of writers to build up the
alien tune back in the 1950s and its getting too old to support. Now agents know
where the Teslaships will arrive and videotape the real deal. So confident are they
in bending peoples mind they send out the videos to youtube. Well as long as
the photos are not as clear as Rex Heflin caught which are hard to explain in any
case. There seems to be a network UFO video distribution and counter Tesla postings
such as possible ET vehicles or just a mistaken balloon or fuzzy camera to deny
their ignorance of Tesla science as the pinnacle of electrical engineering and electrical
physics so we can't enjoy seeing what Tesla discovered for us.

Originally posted by dwh0
I wonder if this setup of a shadow goverment is in use in other countries such as Australia and England.

It is not actually in use anywhere, it was all just made up by Boylan. remember, he makes a lot of things up - remember this nonsense?

Boylan Quote: "Dec. 31, 2010, 11:59 pm, EST, [05:00 hrs., Jan. 1, 2011, Greenwich Mean Time/UTC/Zulu], is the official Deadline for the U.S. Government to make a formal Official Public Acknowledgment that Star Visitor Contact and Communication has occurred. Preparation for this public information announcement was the subject of an official Executive Order (classified) signed by President Barack Obama, directing the National Security Council's Special Studies Group to prepare a plan for such a series of Official Government Public Acknowledgments of Star Visitor Contacts and Communications with U.S. Government representatives. The U.S. Government is preparing to do this pursuant to a formal Agreement made with Star Nations: that the U.S. would stop its policy of UFO Cover-Up this year. Of course such a public announcement could occur any time prior to December 31st too. Star Nations, and its representative, the Councillor of Earth (Dr. Richard Boylan), have advised the Government that if they renege on complying with that Agreement, that Star Nations will initiate a series of open, public, dramatically-obvious demonstrations-of-presence such that the Government will then be compelled to publicly acknowledge Star V iStar Nations representative and Councillor of Earth (Dr. Richard Boylan)"