The Omega Agency: "Above The President"

Originally posted by arbiture
But the need to reconstitute the nation after a catastrophe is a legitimate effort.

Although your words have great meaning, would it not be better to move on to the next best place? Why bring the same gov back that was responsible for the catastrophe? I think we should create a better one at that point.

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HHMM You sound like you work for George Soros our new Administrator for the NWO. For this is exactly what is being proposed by the Obamanistas and C.A.P.
Well it looks more and more that they are all in on it Bush, Obama, Soros, etc. etc.
[edit on 11/28/08 by cerberusxp]

[edit on 11/28/08 by cerberusxp]

To all of those who are interested in me, your time is near and you will fail!

An insider has exposed you.

I told you we were watching you.


Eye of Eagle

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That's nice, now put the keyboard down before you hurt yourself.

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Its theorized that after MJ-12 became too well know they reconstituted themselves under another pseudonym. As legend has it, i=they chose "Omega" because they were supposedly the first and last line of defense for humanity; or so the rumor goes.

I do know that the NSA uses "Omega" classification handler ID's for specific projects/programs/operations which are totally disavowed and are not even entered into sealed files. Because of their nature there is no documentation to even shred, so their efforts have virtually no accountability or known presence, and theoretically as a result are impossible to trace or track.

Well the seem busy at the me

This thread definitely needed Bumping in these closing days of 08, after the recent months.

And what beholds us, as mentioned by more than seems chance, in the first flush of 09, with the incumbant then elect.

Kind Regards,

Elf

RE: OA Plans...
~ If this is the case, it may be what's needed. I'm not sure if any of you have been south of Arkansas or anywhere near Texas...but people are irresponsibly ignorant, gullible, and self-absorbed. NOT EVERYONE, but MANY!
If the ET considers our means of society to be wrong, then I just might agree. Take a look throughout history, and we see that most of which consists of war stories and political nonsense...much of which some of us will never let go. An advanced being may have some of the answers this 'human race' needs to survive:
~ Population Control - Call it what you wish, tag it for a genre - If the population continues to grow, the resources will continue to diminish. Unity is what we need to survive.
~ Open - resource/Free - Trade/ WITHOUT the MONETARY SYSTEM! Then, we will truly be free from this form of indentured servitude we have allowed to occur.
I ask you all, to just STOP and really think about it.. with or without the OA involvement, we as species should unite once and for all and establish ONE COMMON ENEMY (if enemies are necessary) - THE EGO!!
Also, check out www.futurebydesign.org... - - >

“Cannot swords be turned to plowshares? Can we and all nations not live in peace? In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?” ~ Ronald Reagan

Originally posted by RX84

They plan to establish their NWO, for lack of a better term, in
a time span of no less than 5 days. And they intend to do it without
open war.

Uh, isn't the NWO already in place?

The expression "New World Order" has been around for some time now. Read this link for info:

en.wikipedia.org...

Besides, this Omega Agency, sound's like it's taken right out of the movie "True Lies". Any documents? Photos? Where are their alleged headquarters? etc...

The HQ was stated to be @ Langely.

My question is how do you know about the Shot on the spot rules... or lack of judge/jury.
I wouldn't be surprised....
But you paint such a detailed picture that I can vividly picture.
But just curious how you know? Or how you're so sure?

I cant find the 'Alpha' Agency either....I thought it started under GW, Pr1.

Originally posted by Tenzin
reply to post by sunny_2008ny

 

Its theorized that after MJ-12 became too well know they reconstituted themselves under another pseudonym. As legend has it, i=they chose "Omega" because they were supposedly the first and last line of defense for humanity; or so the rumor goes.

I do know that the NSA uses "Omega" classification handler ID's for specific projects/programs/operations which are totally disavowed and are not even entered into sealed files. Because of their nature there is no documentation to even shred, so their efforts have virtually no accountability or known presence, and theoretically as a result are impossible to trace or track.

Are you so sure?

Your post makes this all sound like a good thing.

Those who are able physically and mentally to work will do so. If you have a job/profession at the time that the OA takes over, you will continue in that job/profession. If you are drawing welfare, but are physically able to work, you will work. There will be zero tolerance for any crime that hurts, harms or infringes on the life of others.

If the above were true, wouldn't 99% of the population happily vote for this power to lead them anyway? I sure would! A population that contributes and brings goodwill with zero tolerance of negativity; it sounds awesome.

So then why all the secrecy?

If the plan has such a rosey outcome, then secrecy and political chess isn't needed. I can imagine the real goal of this agency to remove crime, then to remove free will and free thinking for those that don't sit within the echelons of power.

This is rubbish, rubbish is in taken life because of bad education. Because of not showing whats wrong and right.

I dont believe in this for a minute. A secret "taking over the world" plan to just give criminals death penalties by a shot. And everyone should work their asses off even if they have a broken neck or an infection, or a split open stomach, after a surgery?? Get a grip, the big boys are doing fine were they are.

I doubt it, if we need anything then it's clear cut rules in SCHOOL, and explaining why why why you shouldnt do bad. Show examples to students, teach them what "good you can do in life" if you become a doctor, nurse, social worker. Teach them to the bottom up, Like I(you=) NEver been taught before.

We has to start from the bottom, not from the top, violence dont solve any problems. We see this now, and people are confused as never been before. The Right wings strength/rules/clarity/ we could mix with the left wings empathy, and we could create the perfect world. Leave the money and greed in the bushes.

I hope one day, Me or someone will consider changing this world by education only, not by violence, or brainwashing tools. We could create jobs in other fields, if we just let go from the old- and bring in the new slowly. No need to fill mental hospitals anymore. Bring out the truth, the evolution, and the revolution will be seen.

Now, have good day- and bring sparkles to people who suffers, but first you have to take care of yourself. And that's what I find people doing here the best, we and they here are specialistsin details. As they say, "God are in the details"

So stay open and stay strong, we knows more than 1.000 of men!

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The "Omega Agency" was just another underground cia ops program that worked outta J. Edgar Hoover's office and was one of the main reasons that JFK was killed for. He, (JFK), pledged to scatter that agency and the entire cia to the four corners of the earth! Well, closet republican LBJ couldn't allow that to happen because of his ties to the then underground cia operatives GHW. Bush and fellow op Felix Rodriguez. This can be read at JFK's own written Iron Mountain Report. The nwo thought they had him duped into believing that all they wanted was world peace, and they sure could use his catholic influence to further their agenda. As for the masons, well, they're well documented also. According to the late New Zealand pastor Barry Smith, the masons have an underground lodge just yards away from the temple mount in jerusalem and are awaiting their instructions to start building the new temple, and Pastor Smith and his son have both interviewed people in Alamagordo New Mexico who have already seen more than 250,000 foreign troops awaiting their orders to take to our american streets when the nwo gives them the order to do so. It's not hard to see who the nwo is, all ya gotta do is follow the money and who controls it! You'll end up at the House of Rothschild like I did. I have researched the nwo bunch for over 20+ years, and all roads lead to the same ending place.

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I have to respectfully disagree with you here on the validity of the Omega Agency and it's existance, and the David Icke facts. I have followed Icke for many years and people always try to diss him because he had a nervous breakdown years ago and actually thought he was jesus christ. What happened to Icke was that he had processed sooo much information, his mind could not reprogram it"self to further circumvent additional info and process it rationally because he was trying to tie in all the nwo info to the bible, and he had a major craneal meltdown. I can tell ya from my own personal experience, this info on the nwo and just who's involved is a tremendous undertaking for any of us to cram into our brains and try to function in what we call our normal society we live in. For when we see all the problems surrounding us, our initial mental reflexes tell us to do what we can to fix the said problem, but when the problem is as overwhelming as what we are facing with the nwo, it's hard for anybody to process data and still keep on functioning. I have studied for years the materials from some of the aforementioned you posted, Dr John Coleman, Svali, Henry Makow, and Fritz Springmier, and while they all offer and bring a lot to the table, others have brought even more than they did. Dr Antony C Sutton, Phil Schneider, Bill Cooper, Larry Bates, Gary Kah, Jim Marrs, Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jim Tucker, Pastor Barry Smith, Ted Gunderson, and even Mel Gibson's dad, Hutton Gibson is well tuned in on the nwo! You said aliens are not real? I beg to differ, for Phil Schneider was killed for what he knew about them, and I have talked to his ex-wife via e-mails a few years ago about that very subject. You can view Phil's speech here he gave shortly before he was tortured and killed:www.apfn.org... I have studied and followed the nwo since I was a very young man, and after 25 years of observance, I can tell you that what I have seen would make most peoples' skin crawl. I was in Panama when the first blow to our american civil liberties were being exploited, for it was back in april 1987 that the USA went global with it's military and established the 10 points, or sectors world-wide. In 1987, USARSO(US Army South) was formed, and the other commands were put into place as well, Northcom, Centcom, etc. I remember our comanding officer at the 29th MI Batallion telling some of us that we were entering into a brave new world, and then he laughed and said, well, I guess you could say that we were all here the day the new world order arrived! But to get back to research, you can't go wrong on Eustace Mullins either, and former US Army Joint Chiefs of Staff Intelligence Officer Al Cuppet. Both of these men live in virginia pretty close to me, and I am very well read with their work also. The nwo is basically a committee of 300 run by a board of 50 that gets it's marching orders from a group Oligarchs of 13 major bloodlines that is controlled from the House of Rothschild. I can post much more reading, but for those who like to do their own thing, you'll find out that all roads lead to the Rothschilds, aka:the Bauer bloodline!

I thought I would go ahead and post Phil Schneiders' speech.
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In May, 1995, Phil Schneider did a lecture on what he had discovered.
Seven months later he was tortured and killed by those for whom he had
previously worked. This man's final acts should not go unnoticed.
www.apfn.org...
A Lecture By Phil Schneider

"It is because of the horrendous structure of the federal government that I feel directly imperiled *not* to tell anybody about this material. How long I will be able to do this is anybody's guess. However, I would like to mention that this talk is going to be broken up into four main topics. Each of these topics will have some bearing on what you people are involved in, whether you are patriots or not.

"I want you to know that these United States are a beautiful place. I have gone to more than 70 countries, and I cannot remember any country that has the beauty, as well as the magnificence of its people, like these United States.

"To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and went through engineering school. Half of my school was in that field, and I built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well as a structural engineer with both military and aerospace applications. I have helped build two main bases in the United States that have some significance as far as what is called the New World Order. The first base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico. I was involved in 1979 in a fire fight with alien humanoids, and I was one of the survivors. I'm probably the only talking survivor you will ever hear. Two other survivors are under close guard. I am the only one left that knows the detailed files of the entire operation. Sixty-six Secret Service agents, FBI, Black Berets and the like, died in that fight. I was there.

"Number one: part of what I am going to tell you is going to be very shocking. Part of what I am going to tell you is probably going to be very unbelievable, though, instead of putting your glasses on, I'm going to ask you to put your 'skepticals' on. But please, feel free to do your own homework. I know the Freedom of Information Act isn't much to go on, but it's the best we've got. The local law library is a good place to look for Congressional Records. So, if one continues to do their homework, then one can be standing vigilant in regard to their country.

Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget

"I love the country I am living in more than I love my life, but I would not be standing before you now, risking my life, if I did not believe it was so. The first part of this talk is going to concern deep underground military bases and the Black Budget. The Black Budget is a secretive budget that garners 25% of the gross national product of the United States. The Black Budget currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States.

"They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940s. Some of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-levity trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this activity. Al Bielek has my only copy of one of them. Richard Souder, a Ph.D. architect*, has risked his life by talking about this. He worked with a number of government agencies on deep underground military bases. In around where you live, in Idaho, there are 11 of them.

(*Richard Souder ~ not to be confused with Richard Sauder, Ph.D., an underground bases researcher and author of the book, 'Underground Bases and Tunnels: What is the Government Trying to Hide'.")

"The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. They have laser drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. The Black Projects sidestep the authority of Congress, which as we know is illegal. Right now, the New World Order is depending on these bases. If I had known at the time I was working on them that the NWO was involved, I would not have done it. I was lied to rather extensively.

Development of Military Technology, Implied German Interest in Hyperspacial Technology

"Basically, as far as technology is concerned, for every calendar year that transpires, military technology increases about 44.5 years. This is why it is easy to understand that back in 1943 they were able to create, through the use of vacuum tube technology, a ship that could literally disappear from one place and appear in another place. My father, Otto Oscar Schneider, fought on both sides of the war. H e was originally a U-boat captain, and was captured and repatriated in the United States. He was involved with different kinds of concerns, such as the A-bomb, the H-bomb and the Philadelphia Experiment. He invented a high-speed camera that took pictures of the first atomic tests at Bikini Island on July 12, 1946. I have original photographs of that test, and the photos also show UFOs fleeing the bomb site at a high rate of speed. Bikini Island at the time was infested with them, especially under the water, and the natives had problems with their animals being mutilated. At that time, General MacArthur felt that the next war would be with aliens from other worlds.

"Anyway, my father laid the groundwork with the theoreticians about the Philadelphia Experiment, as well as other experiments. What does that have to do with me? Nothing, other than the fact that he was my father. I don't agree with what he did on the other side, but I think he had a lot of guts in coming here. H e was hated in Germany. There was a $1 reward, payable in gold, to anyone who killed him. Obviously, they didn't succeed. Anyway, back to our topic ~ deep underground bases.

The Fire Fight At Dulce Base

"Back in 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the federal government decided to circumvent the Constitution of the United States and form a treaty with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Grenada Treaty, which basically made the agreement that the aliens involved could take a few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few human beings, but that they had to give details about the people involved. Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided they wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality, and the fire-fight at Dulce occurred quite by accident.

"I was involved in building an addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four distinct holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together and blow out large sections at a time. My job was to go down the holes and check the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with the particular rock. As I was headed down there, we found ourselves amidst a large cavern that was full of outer-space aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them. At that time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down after this started, and all of them got killed. We had surprised a whole underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that they had been living on our planet for a long time, perhaps a million years. This could explain a lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts.

"Anyway, I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that.

"I didn't get really interested in UFO technology until I started work at Area 51, north of Las Vegas. After about two years recuperating after the 1979 incident, I went back to work for Morrison and Knudson, EG&G and other companies. At Area 51, they were testing all kinds of peculiar spacecraft. How many people here are familiar with Bob Lazar's story? He was a physicist working at Area 51 trying to decipher the propulsion factor in some of these craft.

Schneider's Worries About Government Factions, Railroad Cars and Shackle Contracts

"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the federal government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled Senators, and have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the railyards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of government is "technocracy," not democracy ,and it is a form of feudalism. It has nothing to do with the republic of the United States. These people are God-less, and have legislated out prayer in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two years in prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the people of the United States. I am not a very good speaker, but I'll keep shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a bullet in me, because it's worth it to talk to a group like this about these atrocities.

America's Black Program Contractors

"There are other problems. I have some interesting 1993 figures. There are 29 prototype stealth aircraft presently. The budget from the U.S. Congress five-year plan for these is $245.6 million. You couldn't buy the spare parts for these programs for that amount. So, we've been lied to. the black budget is roughly $1.3 trillion every two years. A trillion is a thousand billion. A trillion dollars weighs 11 tons. The U.S. Congress never sees the books involved with this clandestine pot of gold. Contractors of stealth programs: EG&G, Westinghouse, McDonnell Douglas, Morrison-Knudson, Wackenhut Security Systems, Boeing Aerospace, Lorimar Aerospace, Aerospacial in France, Mitsubishi Industries, Ryder Trucks, Bechtel, I.G. Farben, plus a host of hundreds more. Is this what we are supposed to be living up to as freedom-loving people? I don't believe so.

Star Wars And Apparent Alien Threat

"Still 68% of the military budget is directly or indirectly affected by the black budget. Star Wars relies heavily upon stealth weaponry. By the way, none of the stealth program would have been available if we had not taken apart crashed alien disks. None of it. Some of you might ask what the "space shuttle" is "shuttling." Large ingots of special metals that are milled in space and cannot be produced on the surface of the earth. They need the near vacuum of outer space to produce them. We are not even being told anything close to the truth. I believe our government officials have sold us down the drain ~ lock, stock and barrel.

Stealth Aircraft Technology Use
By U.S. Agencies And The United States

"Here's another piece of information for you folks. The Drug Enforcement Administration and the ATF rely on stealth tactical weaponry for as much as 40% of their operations budget. This in 1993, and the figures have gone up considerably since. The United Nations used American stealth aircraft for over 28% of its collective worldwide operations from 1990 to 1992, according to the Center for Strategic Studies and UN Report 3092.

The Guardians of Stealth And Delta Force
Origins Of The Bosnia Conflict

"The Guardians of Stealth: There are at least three distinct classifications of police that guard our most well-kept secrets. Number one: the Military Joint Tactical Force MJTF), sometimes called the Delta Force or Black Berets, is a multi-national tactical force primarily used to guard the various stealth aircraft worldwide. By the way, there were 172 stealth aircraft built. Ten crashed, so there were at last count about 162. Bill Clinton signed them away about six weeks ago to the United Nations. There have been indications that the Delta Force was sent over to Bosnia during the last days of the Bush administration as a covert sniper force, and that they started taking pot shots at each side of the controversy, in order to actually start the Bosnia conflict that would be used by succeeding administrations for political purposes.

Thoughts On The Bombings In The United States

"I was hired not too long ago to do a report on the World Trade Center bombing. I was hired because I know about the 90 some-odd varieties of chemical explosives. I looked at the pictures taken right after the blast. The concrete was puddled and melted. The steel and the rebar was literally extruded up to six feet longer than its original length. There is only one weapon that can do that ~ a small nuclear weapon. That's a construction-type nuclear device. Obviously, when they say that it was a nitrate explosive that did the damage, they're lying 100%, folks. The people they have in custody probably didn't do the crime. As a matter of fact, I have reason to believe that the same group held in custody did do other crimes, such as killing a Jewish rabbi in New York.

"However, I want to further mention that with the last explosion in Oklahoma City, they are saying that it was a nitrate or fertilizer bomb that did it. First, they came out and said it was a 1,000 pound fertilizer bomb. Then, it was 1,500. Then 2,000 pounds. Now it's 20,000. You can't put 20,000 pounds of fertilizer in a Ryder Truck. Now, I've never mixed explosives, per se. I know the chemical structure and the application of construction explosives. My reputation was based on it. I helped hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United States. I worked on the Malta project, in West Germany, in Spain and in Italy. I can tell you from experience that a nitrate explosion would not have hardly shattered the windows of the federal building in Oklahoma City. It would have killed a few people and knocked part of the facing off the building, but it would never have done that kind of damage. I believe I have been lied to, and I am not taking it any longer, so I'm telling you that you've been lied to.

The Truth Behind The Republican Contract With America

"I don't perceive at this time that we have too much more than six months of life left in this country, at the present rate. We are the laughing stock of the world, because we are being hoodwinked by so many evil people that are running this country. I think we can do better. I think the people over 45 are seriously worried about their future. I'm going to run some scary scenarios by you. the Contract With America: It contains the same terminology that Adolph Hitler used to subvert Germany in 1931. I believe we can do better. The Contract With America is a last ditch effort by our federal government to tear away the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Some Statistics On The Black Helicopter Presence

"The black helicopters. There are over 65,000 black helicopters in the United States. For every hour that goes by, there is one being built. Is this the proper use of our money? What does the federal government need 64,000 tactical helicopters for, if they are not trying to enslave us. I doubt if the entire military needs 64,000 worldwide. I doubt if all the world needs that many. There are 157 F-117A stealth aircraft loaded with LIDAR and computer-enhanced imaging radar. They can see you walking from room to room when they fly over your house. They see objects in the house from the air with a variation limit of 1 inch to 30,000 miles. That's how accurate that is. Now, I worked in the federal government for a long time, and I know exactly how they handle their business.

Government Earthquake Device, AIDS As A Bio-Weapon Based On Alien Excretions

"The federal government has now invented an earthquake device. I am a geologist, and I know what I am talking about. With the Kobe earthquake in Japan, there was no pulse wave as in a normal earthquake. None. In 1898, there was an earthquake in San Francisco. There was no pulse wave with that one either. It is a Tesla device that is being used for evil purposes. The black budget programs have subverted science as we know it. Look at AIDS, invented by the National Ordinance Laboratory in Chicago, Illinois in 1972. It was a biological weapon to be used against the people of the United States. The reason I know this is that I have seen the documentation by the Office of Strategic Services, which, by the way, is still in operation to this day, through the CDC in Atlanta. They used the glandular excretions of animals, humans and alien humanoids to create the virus. These alien humanoids the government is hobnobbing with are the worst news. There is absolutely no defense against their germs ~ none. They are a biological weapon of terrible consequence. Every alien on the planet needs to be isolated.

"Saddam Hussein killed 3.5 million Kurdish people with a similar biological weapon. Do we, the people of this planet, deserve this? No, we don't but we are not doing anything about it. Every moment we waste, we are doing other people on the planet a disservice. Right now, I am dying of cancer that I contracted because of my work for the federal government. I might live six months. I might not. I will tell you one thing. If I keep speaking out like I am, maybe God will give me the life to talk my head off. I will break every law that it takes to talk my head off. Eleven of my best friends in the last 22 years have been murdered. Eight of the murders were called "suicides."

Before I went to talk in Las Vegas, I drove a friend down to Joshua Tree, near 29 Palms. I drove into the mountains in order to get to Needles, California, and I was followed by two government E-350 vans with G-14 plates, each with a couple of occupants, one of which had an Uzi. I knew exactly who they were. I have spoken 19 58j3s and have probably reached 45,000 people. Well, I got ahead of them and came to a stop in the middle of the road. They both went on either side of me and down a ravine. Is this what it's going to take? I cut up my security card and sent it back to the government, and told them if I was threatened, and I have been, that I was going to upload 140,000 pages of documentation to the Internet about government structure and the whole plan. I have already begun that task.

"Thank you very much."

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APFN NOTE: I MEET WITH PHIL AT THE GLOBAL SIC. MEETING IN DENVER JUST.... WE TALKED EXTENSIVELY... I WILL DETAIL THESE TALKS IN THE NEAR FUTURE...We were to meet again, on Friday, of the week Phil got whacked..... Phil had much info on the shadow government.

Kenneth L. Vardon... [email protected]
www.apfn.org...

"....................no conspiracy can survive eXpose'.............."
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Al Pratt suspected something was wrong with his friend Philip Schneider. For several days in a row, Al had gone to Phil's apartment, in Willsonville, Oregon, saw his car in the parking lot, but received no answer at the door. Finally, on January 17th, 1996, Al Pratt, along with the manager of the Autumn Park Apartments and a detective from the Clackamas County Sheriff's office entered the apartment. Inside, they found the body of Philip Schneider. Apparently he had been dead for 5 to 7 days. The Clackamas County Coroner's office initially attributed Philip Schneider's death to a stroke. However, in the following days disturbing details about his death began to surface, leading some to believe that Philip Schneider had not died from a stroke, but had in fact been murdered.

Originally posted by lightseeker

Can we believe this info or is it in fact disinformation?

That is a really super question, because, as we were taught, the lie or the deception is different at every level. So who knows how multi-tiered all of this is and who is ultimately at the top of the pyramid of power.

Instead of fixating on what sort of organisations operate in the shadows and in plain day, increasingly, I have enough to retain my balance and work to bring light to situations and leave anger alone.

reply to post by Retikx

The way the nwo will control you and the rest of us if we don't stand up is through legislation. Right now, bill HR875 is awaiting to be discussed and it pertains to growing your own food, to include raising a home garden and your own meat. If you don't use the proper usda recommended pesticides and fertilize, it'll be against the law to raise your own food. Now to address your own energy creating via wind and solar. Lobbyists right now are working on programs to make it unlawful to own solar, wind, and water sources of useable ways of creating your own energy. They know that there's no way to be able to legally tax you for it yet, and for tracking purposes, our lovely gov't already has the microchipping process ready and available to beging using whenever it gets ready to do so. So, the gov't will lock up our way of obtaining food, energy, water, and the taking up of physical space with our bodies. Anymore questions?

reply to post by feoil

The reason the nwo hasn't swung into full force is because China isn't playing ball with them yet. Read the below article and you'll see why that Russia and Iran were quick to sign a friendship pact with China a couple of years ago.
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Chinese Secret Society
Challenges Illuminati
By Henry Makow PhD
6-30-7

A Chinese secret society with 6 million members, including 1.8 million Asian gangsters and 100,000 professional assassins, have targeted Illuminati members if they proceed with world depopulation plans, according to Tokyo-based journalist Benjamin Fulford, 46.

They contacted Fulford, a Canadian ex pat, after he warned that the Illuminati plan to reduce the Asian population to just 500 million by means of race-specific biological weapons.

"The Illuminati, with the exception of Japan, is very much a white man's game," Fulford says.

The secret society confirmed Fulford's information and asked him for advice. He provided a list of 10,000 people associated with the Illuminati, mainly members of the Bilderberg, CFR and Skull and Bones. Neo Cons are also high priority targets.

"I have been promised that not a single person will die if they negotiate in good faith," Fulford says.
Fulford is the former Asian Pacific bureau chief for Forbes magazine. He quit in disgust when Forbes refused to run a damaging story about one of its advertisers. Fulford has since written 15 books in Japanese. His most recent is a scathing dissection of the 9-11 Hoax.

Fulford says Japan has been controlled in secret by the Illuminati through the use of murder and bribery. Underground sources tell him the Americans have murdered over 200 Japanese politicians and influential citizens since the end of WW2.

Among the victims are former Prime Ministers Tanaka, Take#a, Ohira and Obuchi. They were all murdered using a special drug that induces strokes. The Illuminati have been warned that the Chinese secret society will not tolerate any more murders. It has also extended its protection to truth seekers in the West.

ANCIENT SECRET SOCIETY

The Chinese Secret Society is called the "The Green and the Red Societies," Fulford says.

It "can be found in the history books. When the Manchus invaded China in 1644 the Ming army became an underground society aimed at overthrowing the Qing (Manchu) and restoring the Ming. They supported the Boxer Rebellion but were put down by imperialist powers. Later, with the help of overseas Chinese and the Japanese imperial family, the society managed to overthrow the last Emperor and install Sun Yat Sen in his place. They last appear in the history books as the Green Gang and the Red Gang that fiercely fought the Communists in Shanghai in the 1940's. They were defeated by the Communists in 1949 and once again became an underground organization."

"Since 1949 they have steadily increased their influence throughout China and the rest of the world. They have members at the very highest levels of the Chinese government but they are by nature anti-establishment, and are not an official Chinese government organization...

"The society has deep roots in Japan because of the link between Yakuza crime gangs and the Japanese imperial family. The Japanese imperial family are descended from 6th century Korean invaders. The original invaders had trouble putting down the native Jomon peoples so they brought over a tough, warlike minority people from the Asian mainland. These are the ancestors of the Yakuza. They have historically been used for secret work and for jobs like collecting taxes. When the Japanese decided to help overthrow the last Chinese dynasty, they used the Yakuza as a go-between with the Chinese secret society, many of whose m