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Tell The Truth: GO TO JAIL!

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posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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Continuing on with my “The State Is The Criminal” montage of police aggression against the innocent, I bring you this latest masterpiece of fascist power.

This man decided to video tape some cops harassing some young woman for no reason as they pulled her over and groped her breasts. Of course, videotaping Gods is equivalent to blasphemy, and calling them Nazi’s (which they obviously are) is grounds for execution, so the Stasi enforcers descended upon our innocent cameraman with the full violent fury of the East German Police State.

For simply stating the truth (that the cops are a bunch of fascist fat assed totalitarian scum sucking ****bags) to the officers faces, the man was arrested, locked in felony jail, was charged with a felony, had his property illegally confiscated, and had his property illegally searched.

Of course, since 99.9% of the people that read this are fascist totalitarians, I eagerly await the comments that side with the cops for violating this guy’s constitutional rights and imprisoning him at tax payer expense for exercising his first amendment rights.

I find morbid humor in watching someone demand imprisonment of people over words, the cost of which they pay for through being violently looted of their tax dollars.

I think Stockholm Syndrome is the only possible way to explain this.

I also find some humor in the fact that the police in this instance are actually committing numerous crimes that range from false imprisonment, armed robbery, and kidnapping, but then make the claim that the cameraman is actually the criminal. Of course, we can expect nothing to be done about the crimes the police committed in this case.



Read the full account here:


The lady was standing outside her car, looking quite distressed at the situation. Cops then begin to search her vehicle and then let her go. One of the officers asked if I was “enjoying myself” from the road. I told him “you are a Nazi”. He cupped an ear like he couldn’t hear me, so I said it louder, “you’re a Nazi”.

One officer then pointed at me and said, “Arrest him for interfering”. Even though their traffic stop was complete and the lady driver was back in her vehicle preparing to leave. The cops were also preparing to leave when I spoke this.

Then he and his cohorts came up my driveway and into my garage. I told them all to leave and that they were not welcome. I repeated it several ways such as, “you are trespassing”, “leave my property”, etc…

One of three officers asked for my ID and I stated that I was on my property and had committed no crime. He quickly became aggressive and intimidating… belligerently pointing “I am a cop. Here is my badge. Show me your ID, NOW!”




[edit on 24-8-2010 by mnemeth1]




posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 09:55 AM
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Lol I have to say this guy is an idiot

You dont call a cop a nazi to his face, by saying that you think your bigger than the law, and when the cop asked for his ID he should have shown it to them without making a fuss.

Yes the cops were wrong but if this guy just kept quite and then took the matter further by going through right channels he would have gotten a much more satisfying result.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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reply to post by bluedrake
 


Keep quet and nothing will happen to you? Great argument. (insert sarcasm here)

There is no law requiring someone to carry or produce ID on demand. There was no obstruction of justice, as the "traffic stop" had ended at the time the videograhper exercised his first amenendment rights. His 4th amendment rights were clearly violated as well. Clear case of harrasment on the part of LEO.

[edit on 8/24/2010 by this_is_who_we_are]

[edit on 8/24/2010 by this_is_who_we_are]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:15 AM
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I thank you for your input.

Of course, the issue is not whether the guy is an idiot for calling the cops Nazis, the issues is whether the cops are justified in violating his rights for doing so.

Further, the question is whether the tax paying public should have its funds used to incarcerate and prosecute citizens who tell cops off.

The tax paying public:

Paid for the cops salaries.
Paid for the cops gear.
Paid for the cruisers, radio towers, police station, and jail.
Paid for the court buildings and the Judge.
Paid for the court prosecutors and bailiffs.
Paid for the prison and police utilities.
Paid for the food and medical care of the inmates and police.
and a whole host of other things.

Ironically, the citizen that was arrested also paid for these things. - thus his own money was used to imprison himself.



[edit on 24-8-2010 by mnemeth1]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:20 AM
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and groped her breasts
Well...I didn't see much "groping" going on...and this guy was a little bit of a douche...I mean, we all want the cops to respect us, well calling them a nazi isn't really being a good role model is it, and it's quite hypocritical. He states they are "harassing" him, but yet he has no problem harassing them by instantly assuming all police officers are "NWO and Illuminati scum"...I would usually be here saying "yeah, go that guy"...but not all police are scum (though a lot are), in some uncommon cases they may just be trying to make the world a little better. In this case, they were clearly violating his rights and acting on that impulse that gain control of an "out of order" citizen, but he clearly provoked that situation.

[edit on 24/8/10 by CHA0S]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:20 AM
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Two wrongs don't make a right.

If you're filming the cops groping some chick. And then decide to video tape. and then while video taping decide to call the guy a nazi.

You should expect bad things to happen.

In this country you have many rights. Including the right to stay silent.
I'm thinking this guy should have used that one right.

The cops are people too. And if you get in their face or start calling them names. Well you can expect a beat down.

Being calm, courteous and respectful will get you out of a jam most of the time.

Don't be a giant douchebag. Sorry but I dont' agree with what this guy did.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by grey580]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:21 AM
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I'd have to agree with the same. The guy was just blurting out nonsensical, rambling gibberish after gibberish, couldn't even form a cohesive sentence or argument. Nazi this. Illuminati that. Babble on Babylon.

It's people like this who actually do a disservice to their fellow conspiracy theorists, in my opinion.

I mean, think about it. He has no Real idea regarding Why the girl was pulled over in the first place, Nor does he have a clue as to what Exactly necessitated the search of her person, purse or vehicle. All he has is an obviously preconceived attitude/agenda towards those officers who may have been fully justified in their actions pertaining to that traffic stop.

People, such as as himself, bring stuff down on themselves by their own actions, efforts and words ... and the are all too often oh so quick to cry harm or foul after the fact.

Nazis. Illuminati. New World Order. Israel & Iran about to kick off WW3. Blah Di Blah Di Blah.


frontal lobe infested with fecal matter, if you ask me.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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Jail for calling them nazis. What would happen if he denied the holocaust too?

You would think that just by the nature of the job, a cop would have a little thicker skin. Not so, besides, whats the point of having the edge on someone when you don't enforce it. The cops would have been ridiculed for letting that guy go. The charges will be dropped, but they get 'their' point across. Status quo is maintained. You already know that a cop can and will charge you with everything under the sun if thats their prerogative. Then its up to you to sort their mess out. In their world everything can be spun and misconstrued, because its merely 'their version' of events.

Notice that great warning they hand to you = anything you say can and will be used against you... Nothing along the lines of = we are here to help you and get to the bottom of this. They tell you straight up and its been like that for a long time.

My mom and dad lived in Wyoming and Utah back in the 70s and they said the cops were just flatout cruel there. Likely because they were hippies, but still. One incident had my dad being arrested for some bs loitering charge, they take him to the station for some enhanced interrogation and things go bad and he takes the entire station on, and gets to beat on 13 of them before they finally whip his ass. He was relased with no charges filed a few days later. After that they didn't mess with him as bad. My parents said they were also mostly hardcore alcoholics, on-duty of course, but never touched drugs. Thats why they hated anyone with long hair. But, thats Wyoming and Utah for you. I believe it all even.

I think that having control is what gets people to become cops in the first place. I even think that its almost 50/50 on who joins to be a good or bad one. Further, I think that eventually the majority of good ones succumb to the pressure and become like the bad ones. Staying silent and blind justification counts too.

One more point to ponder... Calling the cops is the only surefire method of making your problems worse.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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Similar thing happened to me they seized my phone as evidence of obstruction when they returned it the video had been deleted they were doing as they pleased and then were just gonna make up a story to cover their asses. Abuse of police powers it is with the IPCC but nothing will happen.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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LEO's are vital to our public safety. Many of these officers are great human beings who live by example. With that said, there are also a few who probably chose their career because they like to bully. The internet is flooded with examples of LEO's being freaking jackboots, but no one will hardly ever commend an officer who never believes they are above the law.

What we need is some kind of watchgroup who goes around with camera's hidden in their hat or glasses looking for LEO's behaving badly.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:33 AM
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O boy I thought it wa a rule that if a female is searched they bring in a female cop?
now that cop was being VERYYYYYYY carefull to show this woman he was NOT trying to grope her .lol But its this very reasion you need female cops to search female subjects
well give the cops credit for not getting pissed . But in bother cases they sure went out of there way trying to find a reasion to arrest the girl first .Shes lucky they didnt take every last nut and bolt out of her car.
why they pulled her over I dont know(they did let her go) but only after a 20 search ?
as for the guy calling them nazis well dont know they kept there cool but the messly charges they will put on this guy because of name calling?


[edit on 24-8-2010 by xxcalbier]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1
This man decided to video tape some cops harassing some young woman for no reason as they pulled her over and groped her breasts.


[edit on 24-8-2010 by mnemeth1]


I applaud you for posting this video. You should have cooled down before posting though as it is a bit emotional and hate-filled. This quote of yours is false as there was no groping involved and the officer explained how he was going to frisk her with the back of his hand.

I ALMOST did not view the video because of all the hate in your writing, but I am glad I did. I see both sides of the story with the tape and it definately is a shade of grey these officers are in, but I think they acted in accordance with their line of work. Sure the officer could have ignored the Nazi slur being yelled at him in a residential area (disturbing the peace, and don't think it is not), and he should have asked the gentleman to step to the edge of his property before walking up to him, but he was wearing his blues and shield (positive identification of his status as a police officer) and was already in a conversation with the gentleman. I understand that these cops tresspassed onto his property as he stated he did not want them there, but at that time he was already causing a scene by not accosting the police, but distracting them while they were doing their job, which is the same as obstructing them to perform. At that time the police were allowed to tresspass to aquire an identity and listen to the gentlemans inquiries (and notify him that his yelling was obstructing justice). I don't like how this played out no more than you do, but the law is the law, and before people throw themselves against it, they should know it.

And that's the Temp's view of it

Edit to add:
The reciting of violations, the racial slur thing, was correct as it is the same law that protects hate groups and protects from hate groups. He may have stated the violation incorrectly but if he stated the actual law (numerical name), it is the same. I dont know because it was right at the end.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by Tempest333]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by xxcalbier
O boy I thought it wa a rule that if a female is searched they bring in a female cop?
now that cop was being VERYYYYYYY carefull to show this woman he was NOT trying to grope her .lol But its this very reasion you need female cops to search female subjects


Police do not need to bring a female cop to search a female above her clothing and the police in the video were very professional with their frisk.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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Thats very misleading to say he "groped" her breasts. That was very similar to the way we were taught to search females in the Army. On the ambulance our trauma assesment for the chest of females is close to that also.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 11:11 AM
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You are trying to defend this guy?

There is no cure for stupid.

Was the gal mistreated? Was her breasts really touched in a sexual manner? Do you or even the idiot know why the gal was stopped, handcuffed and her car searched? Give us the answers to these questions and the guy's IQ, and perhaps most of us will cut the guy some slack. Until then, we must accept he is his own worst enemy, not the cops.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 11:19 AM
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I wouldn't go as far as calling the guy stupid, or bash his IQ. Besides the inappropriate yelling of nazi, gestapo, and stuff used to intentionally irritate the police, he acted very well and good. And what he said is along the lines of an average american (as in knowledge of laws), even the officer probably had to check with dispatch and higher ups to make sure he was not infringing on the guys rights.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 12:01 PM
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That badge and gun won't protect them for much longer. People are going to become more and more desperate and angry when the inevitable collapse occurs. Cops will become targets very quickly if they don't start serving the Constitution and the people.
The reality is that Law enforcement is going to be in between a rock (the fascist state) and a very hard place (very upset human beings fighting for their survival), so they'd best pick a side quickly.

And regardless of the inanities that the man spewed, it is his right to do so. He has every right to speak his mind to a public servant. He is on HIS PROPERTY.
I really don't get some of you. You are perfectly happy to be enslaved. Well enjoy your serfdom. As for me; Give me liberty or give me death. F the rest of you sheep!



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 12:01 PM
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What he said is unimportant, what the cops did about it is all that matters.

It doesn't matter if he was throwing every cuss word in the book at the cops or insulting their mothers.

Because the police are paid public servants, the man owns them.

He pays their salaries, he funds their department, he pays for the jails, the courts, and everything else.

The police are expected to follow the law, and the law is clear - there is no crime in insulting a police officer.

The police aggressed against him for no reason - they intruded on to his property, falsely imprisoned him, illegal searched him, and demanded ID when they had no probable cause.

The police acted illegally on numerous levels - the man however did not. It was the police that escalated the situation without cause. It was the police that went on a power trip and trespassed on to the mans property without just cause. It was the police that used force and violence, not the man.

If we watch the video without the distraction of audio, it becomes clear who the violent criminals are.


[edit on 24-8-2010 by mnemeth1]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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There's obviously a huge problem if police are arresting people for calling them names since I know of no law that prohibits any citizen from doing so (unless there are threats being made). If police are this sensitive and cannot control their emotions, then they shouldn't be doing the job they are.

And to the people saying the guy should have kept quiet or are defending these actions, you're a bunch of pussy sheeple. If no one holds police accountable for their actions, it won't matter how quiet you keep eventually.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 12:22 PM
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[erroneous post removed]

[edit on 24-8-2010 by 12m8keall2c]



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