Stand aside Sharia – here comes biblical law

Originally posted by dawnstar
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

and like I said, instructing kids to blow themselves up just to kill some of the unbelievers would be just too oh, I don't know....primitive...for the western mind to comprehend!

go and spend some time in any baptist church, and I bet at lease once or maybe more you will hear the preacher of that church just about completely disempower the women, or at least try to!

they are teaching more than the golden rule in the churches today...
try visiting a penecostal church!


[edit on 24-8-2010 by dawnstar]

I am a very outspoken woman!I am also a member of a BAPTIST
church.I have a great husband and I don't work outside of my home.
Most churches today are being destroyed from the inside,not by any
outside influence.
Disempower women...Any true woman can have a man eating out
of her hands if she plays her cards right.

reply to post by Blaine91555


they are not that transparent....
there is one that I know of, had a vision or dream about him one night where he turned into a wolf while preaching....
he's still going around doing tent revivals....
a respected member of the church I used to go to...

his message is appealing to those christians, who want to be christians, but just can't accept the idea that their faith should include the idea that God will lead them down the path of his choice, and not their own. or that it is God that will lead his wife down her path, and not the one he has chosen for her!

reply to post by Blaine91555

Did you forget about Ireland, or are Protestants and Catholics not Christian
just sayin
I feel if Christians just lived by the ten commandments they would be OK
but the majority of self professed Christians don't.





[edit on 24-8-2010 by Danbones]

reply to post by mamabeth

read the story of ruth, really read it....
if this is what is required to have the man "eating out of her hand" well, sorry, don't buy it!
not all husbands are like yours...
and well, you kind of just did what I said...you tried to shift blame onto the victim...
thank you!!!

It is also important that I not make the mistake of wrongly accusing Muslims either.

The Muslim Faith is full of fakes as well. The Muslims I've known are peaceful loving people who just want what all of us want; A chance at a happy life in a world filled with hatred.

reply to post by Danbones


That has nothing to do with Christianity. No more than the Muslims have anything to do with the radical Islamists who are such a thorn in the worlds side right now.

An honest person can easily separate the fake from the real. Evil men in power are what leads to the things you point out. To hold innocent real Christians accountable for that is disingenuous beyond belief.

Deny Ignorance my Friend.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
When was the last time you read about say a Baptist loading a car with bombs and driving it into a crowd of Methodists in a Shopping Mall and blowing them up? Or perhaps a Catholic strapping a bomb to their child and sending them to blow up some Lutherans eating in a restaurant? Please provide links.

Ever heard of Ireland? How about the Inquisition? The sacking of Orthodox Constantinople by the Catholic Crusaders?

But to me, the fact that people calling themselves Christian have committed atrocities says nothing about the truth or falsehood of their religion. You are correct; we've kept it peaceful in America, and that speaks volumes about the common generalization among anti-Christians that Christianity is by its nature a violent religion.

Generally speaking, the "religion causes wars" meme is used for mindless religion-bashing. That it's nonsense is proved by the twentieth century, when godless and "enlightened" people brought the world to wrack and ruin over whether socialism should be national or international (with the capitalists coming in at the end saying "neither"), the end result of it all being the violent deaths of around 60 million people.

The bloodiest war in all of human history, and no God was involved.

To me it proves that the root of wars is not religion or even more broadly ideas, but plain ol' human ambition and conflict among the powerful. Stalin was cramping Hitler's style, and vice versa, and neither overinflated ego would stand for it.

Once the game was on, getting the powerless underlings involved was easy, as it always is. Appeals to religion or ideologies are just ways to get the powerless masses in on the feuds between the powerful. In the past declaring a "Christian holy war" against the infidels worked. These days it doesn't, so instead you have to fight the communist infidels or the fascist infidels or the capitalist infidels.

That's why threads like these are silly. They completely miss the point. War is not about religion. Religion has always been merely a pretext, albeit an extremley popular one throughout much of history.

Losing religion as a pretext due to modern thought? No worries, we'll just find more pretexts. Let the festive slaughter continue.



[edit on 24-8-2010 by NewlyAwakened]

reply to post by The Djin


Man I agree with you there are aspects of Christianity that are equally bad as other religions like Sharia, Talmud etc. but lets not forget all Christians don't follow these outdated stuff and are pretty normal folks.

Once again here we have many that still feels it's ok to comment on topics without using critical thinking and careful analysis. I have heard many add their anti-christian rhetoric and some even have the nerve to speak on Christ but has never even referred to him by his correct name or his fathers correct name YHWH why don't you do some research and then come back and post a thread on that. Many holler Christians these days without even realizing that deep behind the phonies and the fakes lies real history. I've never even heard those that practice Islam address Yah by his REAL name but Mohammad is addressed by his. You know very little to nothing about christianity so why don't you do yourself and your readers a favor, RESEARCH, RESEARCH,and RESEARCH the whole religion and come out of the old testament as that was BC we have been instructed to follow the new testament brought by the one and only whose name appears to be lost to you!

reply to post by jayde

imagine there's a man on an isolated island...
God decides he wants to have a chat with him, lights a bush on fire to draw his attention, and the bush starts talking to the guy after he notices.
the man walks away naming the one who chatting with him "the one who talks through burning bush"
does the name he calls it really matter?
are you denying that God could, if he wanted to talk to the isolated man even though he has never heard the story of Jesus....
do you think God really cares what the guy has named him? or would he be more concerned with what the guy picked up from the chat???

You can't view morals based on a wide spread religion. Moral varies from person to person no matter what background or religion. Everbody can have lack of good morals. It's not like atheist are all perfect peaceful people. Humans are humans no matter what, so no matter what they believe in they'll have flaws in judgement. Everyone here on ATS likes to attack everyone else who is different but then preach how that is wrong when dome through religion.

reply to post by dawnstar


christianity 101, a name identifies an individual, a broad based name can have many meanings, such as god which you've heard is on the back of our money dose it only pertain to YAH? let me help you, ummm NO! it implies to multiple gods as you already may have heard many of the forefathers weren't very religious. What god specifically would you be praying to? and for a christian that's beyond important, if your not one or haven't studied I'd understand your lack of knowledge in this matter. As for the burning bush if you've read more than a few scriptures in the bible then you would know that there were only specific people yah appeared to. Any and every one can't look upon him it could blind you and that's mild, harsh if you weren't deemed pure it could kill you find that passage there was one who looked upon YAH w/o permission you can read up on the end result. So dose that answer your question, I'm sure if you we're at the bush and yah appeared to you. You will have already been read like an open book and although you might not believe it, to be heard protected, and blessed you would submit wholeheartedly with a pure mind and spirit to your father. Don't take my word for it I'm only one source I encourage you to do some self research deny force feed garbage.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by jayde]

reply to post by Blaine91555

When was the last time you read about say a Baptist loading a car with bombs and driving it into a crowd of Methodists in a Shopping Mall and blowing them up? Or perhaps a Catholic strapping a bomb to their child and sending them to blow up some Lutherans eating in a restaurant? Please provide links.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

On Tuesday, the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland will release his long awaited report into the Claudy bombing which killed nine people in July 1972.

No paramilitary group has ever claimed responsibility and no-one has ever been convicted of it, but for more that 30 years rumours have circulated that a Catholic priest, and the IRA brigade he was allegedly part of, were behind the attack.

When the investigation into Claudy was re-opened in 2002, part of its remit was to investigate claims that the British government, RUC and Catholic Church conspired to cover-up the activities of the priest.

reply to post by jayde

Many holler Christians these days without even realizing that deep behind the phonies and the fakes lies real history. I

Really where would one find this exactly ? Please don't say the bible mate please pleas don't.

reply to post by The Djinn


Hmmm......where can you find this at well it's all over really but those who are blind can't truly see it. I've been at this for awhile and I have followed multiple sources but ok because you asked one hint. When you open the bible( and I don't know what version your using) so if its all the same to you I'll assume your using the king James version although I could be wrong. Start with Genesis and start choosing biblical figures and one by one research them, check out ancient maps, it might help to learn Hebrew starting with the ancient Hebrew alphabet, review archaeologist data. Compare this with different denominations within christianity. Egypt is also a good reference it will help you understand the Israelites struggles through the pharaohs. Also if you check out a couple of the documentaries you'd realize the strength required to build the pyramid's that ties into specifics why they needed slaves and who do you think they where. Yea you'll be busy awhile but be sure to let me know how your search for the truth works out for you. MATE

reply to post by Blaine91555

The only law in the Bible is the Ten Commandments, which was reduced to just two by Christ in the New Testament.

Sorry to correct you here but all the laws apply according to your own god even when he changed his name to jesus and somehow became his own son -

18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

reply to post by jayde

Egypt is also a good reference it will help you understand the Israelites struggles through the pharaohs.

There is no evidence whatsoever of 500000 to 2 million Hebrews (Israel did not exist) being held as bonded slaves in Egypt. The Egyptian population at the alleged times would likely have been merely 3 million !!


There simply were no "struggling Israelis" my friend the Egyptians were pretty good (unlike the imaginary slaves) at writing things down the Exodus simply did not happen!


There were indeed a couple of exodus type events out of Egypt but these were Egyptians and perhaps a mix of semetic and Hyksos blood the followers of Akhenaten.

This is where the very first record instance of monotheism occurred, if you are looking for historical figure of moses there isn't one but there's certainly the root of the name in the Egyptian Tutmose /Ahmose.

Go looky looky my friend the rabbit hole is deep it may lead you to the reason why Christians continue to (knowingly or otherwise) pray to an Egyptian god "Amen" "Amun".

reply to post by dawnstar


Were you by any chance a victim of male dominance?
I do have a problem with being submissive to anybody.
Age and my husband has smoothed away the rough spots.

I do not place blame onto others.I am woman enough to
take responsibility for my own actions.I am firm in my beliefs
and won't be persuaded by anyone on this board!I stick by my
faith,my Bible and my Lord!

reply to post by Blaine91555

The problem in thinking that Jesus came to abolish the Ten Commandments is that Jesus never claimed to have abolished the Ten Commandments. Instead, in Matthew 5:17-18 Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

Source

reply to post by mamabeth
i dont want to play cards or eat out of any ones hand..
outspoken- or you you just talk too much? yikes almighty- thank god i'm
a heathen loner.