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Originally posted by stormson
since methuselah wants to enforce the 10 commandments, i say why stop there? why not the entire 613 laws created by "god" to include not wearing clothing made of two different materials? however, on the brightside adultery would disappear, as more than one wife was ok! polygamy, now thats what i call "traditional marriage"! but wait, i just remembered something. is having concubines considered adultery? cause king whats-his-name (david?) had 300+ wives and 700+ concubines.
enough with the god talk. there is more evidence for the theory of evolution than there is for magnatism. we see magnatism work everyday, yet we still dont know exactly how it works. now if you read the "tao of physics" by fritjof chopri you will see how the asian religions were much more on the mark when it comes to quantum physics than the judaic (jew, christian, muslim) religions could ever be.
now, to quote the catholic church, "there is but one truth, and if science says that evolution is true, then obviously god used evolution, because god is the one truth behind all things." finally a religion that puts science in its place, this world, and god in his, the next.
Originally posted by Methuselah
Still waiting for all of this "Evidence" you claim is out there... i just noticed we got waaaay off topic... this is about Evolution and you defending it, later it will be my turn to defend the Bible... but for now lets get this Evolution theory out of the way. shall we?
Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
The problem is in discussing God or a god, is that everyone has a different idea what God is or should be.
But what actually is the “ROOT” of All...
My personal understanding is that the Root is "Awareness" for without "Awareness", Nothing at all would be known to exist.
Without “Awareness” there would be NO natural selection. As I accept "Natural Selection" so “Awareness” would have to exist first, otherwise NO selection would knowingly take place!
But most seem to want a “god”, which is after their own human ideas, i.e. what a “god” should be which is established on their particular principals simply to find some sort of inner peace.
But by belief alone, is fruitless as blind belief in something changes nothing at all and certainly won’t make reality conform to any belief contrary to Truth.
"Blind Belief"is only "Self Deception" which is the Greatest Deception of All.
Perhaps the human Species should define first WHAT the “Root of All is, then try to prove or disprove this definition.
Perhaps then and only then some answers may be found.
As I have said it is Not a question whether Evolution exists or Not but rather WHAT is "Evolving"…
Is it the Cause or the Manifestation which is Evolving ???
Without "Cause" there is No Action.
Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
reply to post by MrXYZ
Yes I would have to agree, it does involve "The Philosophy of Science".
And therefore very much on topic...
“Philosophy of science is about as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds.”
Theories come in roughly two forms.
Contrary to what some might think, a theory in the scientific sense does not have
anything to do with whether or not it is supported by the evidence, contradicted
by the evidence, well liked among scientists, and so forth
It only has to do with its structure and the way it functions.
That is, just because a theory is a scientific theory does not mean that the scientific community currently accepts it.
There are many theories that, though technically scientific, have been rejected
because the scientific evidence is strongly against it.
Phenomenological theories are empirical generalizations of data.
They merely describe the recurring processes of nature and do not refer
to their causes or mechanisms.
Phenomenological theories are also called scientific laws, physical laws, and natural laws.
Newton’s third law is one example. It says that every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
Explanatory theories attempt to explain the observations rather than generalize them.
Whereas laws are descriptions of empirical regularities, explanatory theories
are conceptual constructions to explain why the data exist.
For example, atomic theory explains why we see certain observations.
The same could be said with DNA and relativity.
Explanatory theories are particularly helpful in such cases where the entities
(like atoms, DNA, and so forth) cannot be directly observed.