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Originally posted by Methuselah
reply to post by MrXYZ
also its funny how Darwin only had a degree in Theology, he was never a scientist or held a degree in any sort of science, none! so how is he qualified to even pose such a theory?
Originally posted by Methuselah
for example, you automatically assume that the earth cant be young due to the assumption that the dating methods that date the earth are correct. (which they are not, tons of examples out there show they do not work)
Gods Word has never changed it has yet to fail any scientific test.
but there are parts that can be theorized with the support of scientific principles and scientific laws.
which is not how science works.
what else can you learn from fossils... pretty much nothing. you know that is was once alive, and you know it had parents... everything else that fossil is pure assumption and if i am wrong... please state the correct answer instead of just telling me that im making up crap.
which you provided no response to my rebuttals.. who is side-stepping now?
his medical school started an he never finished because of his disinterest. which means he didnt really pay attention... which mean NO BACHELOR DEGREE.. althought im sure material was worthy of such a degree. but he never excelled in that class.
so it looks to me that he did a few odd jobs here and there and then got a real degree from an accredited school.
so how can he develop a theory when the classes he needed to be knowledgeable in there areas didnt even interest him at all.
My response has never been "the bible is correct because the bible is correct" if thats what you gather... you arent paying attention at all which means you must have A.D.D or something like it.
evolution is being taught in the classroom and all of it (except for the parts which i have told you are observable) is a belief based on assumptions that have never been tested, demonstrated or observed.
can you observe abiogenesis? have we ever demonstrated it? yeah we test it all the time but we never getting supporting results for it.
have we ever observed plants or animals producing offspring that is different than its own kind? no we have not. we have observed for example: species of birds that grow so far apart generation after generation that the species are no longer able to reproduce. yes thats scientific and yes that part of this process called evolution and yes that part of what Genesis says would happen. Genesis says that animals would bring forth after their kind thats exactly what we observe today and in your so-called fossil record.
yes there are assumptions made (ie God established the earth upon the seas and upon the floods) which means he made the earth the mostly flat land and water under the crust of the earth. Canopy theory is based on an assumption too but it uses scientific principles and laws to support the its hypothesis.
but the science behind genetics does not point to life evolving from non-living material nor does it point to life as we know it today evolving from single celled organisms.
A quote from Darwin himself "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down." and uhm there are plenty of examples that we have observed this... making theory break down or not legit.
anywho thats my post and if you really want to boil down to why you cling to this evolutionary philosophy its because it frees you from being accountable for your actions. in all actuality thats what the answer is even if you dont want to admit it.
Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
Only two things Involved....
a. "Biological Robotics" and "Environment"... That which is being "Experienced...
b. "Awareness" or LIFE, which is Experiencing the "Biological Robotics" and "Environmement"...
Originally posted by rival
If evolution is false, there is a proof.
Simply explain how God originated...
Once you've accomplished that, I will believe any argument that states
God created everything I can perceive.
Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."
Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."
He that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. -- Leviticus 24:16
He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. -- Leviticus 20:9
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. -- Leviticus 20:13
And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. -- Leviticus 20:11
If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you. -- Deuteronomy 22:23-24
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her ... and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate.... But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.-- Deuteronomy 22:13-22