posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 12:54 AM
reply to post by Three_moons
No, I mention rocks because you posted this;
Cibola National Forest FAQs
With the exception of lands administered by the National Park Service, invertebrate fossils, rocks, plants, fruits and berries may be collected
for personal use on most public lands. For specific rules, consult the appropriate agency.
And rocks are specifically mentions as something you can collect for personal use on most public lands, but which common sense tell you would not be
appropriate on historic sites.
I am not judging his character in general. I dont know enough about him to do that. I am judging his own report of his behavior. Not everyone is
raised to behave the same around their elders/other authority figures. So I am not surprised that you and I may have a different take on whether or
not he was being "jovial" or a "smart ass." In my upbringing, when you are told by an elder/authority that you are doing something wrong, you
listen, learn, and move on. You dont start asking, "where is it posted that I cant do this" and act so "jovial" you end up in handcuffs.
I didnt say they were "fair and honest" I said I have spent a lot of time in the wilderness in NM, and the rangers are not in general a bunch of
thugs running around harassing people. That statement was in part motivated by a comment by the OP about his appearance and braided hair possibly
having something to do with his treatment. In some states? Maybe having long braided hair would get you in trouble with the law. In NM? Tons of
hikers and outdoors people match that description, it is highly unlikely he was singled out for his appearance.
We see his attitude differently. I see someone gloating about eating "illegal fruit" and how sweet it is. I see someone who when told not to do
something was laughing and asking "Where does it say that?" "Is it better to let good fruit go to waste?" Etc. Instead of just saying, "sorry,
I didnt know, I wont do it next time." I see someone who also said he would take packloads out for other people if he could. I am seeing someone
pretty defiant. And my guess is, the officers did too, and thats why he ended up getting cuffed for a while.
A lot of it may be upbringing. Different people from different regions think differently about what is appropriate behavior. Differently from you, I
normally would NOT support the police for slapping the cuffs on someone for taking fruit. But the feel I get from his posts is that it has more to do
with him and his behavior than the ranger/sheriffs and the apples. We can just agree to disagree on whether it was his behavior or if the
sheriffs/ranger were just foaming at the mouth to cuff and release an apple thief.
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[edit on 2010/8/25 by GradyPhilpott]