2004 Dodge Pickup Runs on 100% Water

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posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 12:40 PM
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I found this on another site and have watched the video, it seems pretty cool but I don't know if there is anything someone on ATS will be able to point out to disprove it. These guys don't seem like hoaxer though and they made the whole project open source...



Related links:

www.futureenergyconceptsinc.com...

Hydrogen Hog by Future Energy Concepts, Inc.



 

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posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by kyle43
but I don't know if there is anything someone on ATS will be able to point out to disprove it.


Conservation of Energy.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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Can you go into more detail please? I was also under the impression that the Conservation of Energy was what stopped free energy, this is converting water to hydrogen then using the hydrogen, which has been proved to be very efficient.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by kyle43
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Can you go into more detail please?


There is no more detail than this -- you can't get energy out of nothing. Since the product of H2 burning is water, the hoaxers obviously want to you to believe that magically, they "extracted" energy out of water.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 01:06 PM
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They aren't getting energy out of nothing, it is coming from the extracted hydrogen. Hydrogen is a very powerful energy source.

This isn't about free energy, its about efficiency. They are pulling 55 liters per minute with 55 amps, once again...they don't ever say it is free energy.

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posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 01:42 PM
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hydrogen is easily extracted from water by putting two plates in the water and run an electrical current on it.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 01:50 PM
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Are you saying that there is no energy contained in water?

MOTF!



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem
Conservation of Energy.


Actually the law of conservation of energy is, "Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it only changes form." There is no creation of energy here, they are simply extracting energy that already exists.

So really, this process is entirely possible. If you "Youtube" 'water motorcycle', you will see a similar version where they are managing to create HHO rather than H2+O via electrolysis. Creating HHO apparently is easier.

..Ex



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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People forget that our very own sun runs on Hydrogen. Hydrogen Fusion.

The important thing to remember is that this fusion cycle releases energy in the core of the star. It is this fusion cycle that generates energy in our Sun.


Similar to potential energy stored in a chunk of Uranium.
You could handle it and toss it around while in it's inert state, but once you place it in a pressurized container and slam another piece of metal into it at a high enough velocity, you have released the potential energy stored in the uranium in the form form of nuclear fission.

We can already run cars/trucks on Propane and Natural Gas.

In fact Honda even makes a Natural Gas powered car.

Stan Meyer's car ran across the country on Hydrogen gas generated from water using the same/similar principal.

The key is by sending a high enough level of current, at a very high frequency. in this demo it sounds like 50 amps at 3 volts fed into a pulse wave modulator, essentially a waveform generator.

At a high frequency the oscillating 50 Amps of current breaks the covalent bonds holding the water molecules together, essentially "cracking" the water resulting in separating the water into it's primary components of Hydrogen and Oxygen.

As I had said, our very own sun runs on Hydrogen.
There is a lot of energy to be found there.

I have an old Jeep that I plan on doing this with....




posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 02:18 PM
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Yo, I just had a thought.

Why can't you use the same setup for those water catchers that pull the water out of the air, and set that up in a front dam?? Channel the water back into the reservoir.. it's already distilled.



Then you could use the same type of concept for a windmill or mini wind-tunnel and find the best place to set it up, aerodynamically, and generate the electricity..



Wouldn't it be entirely self-sustainable, barring an inadequate level of humidity.








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posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 02:23 PM
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Say you have 15 gallons of water.

You use X number of joules of electricity to obtain Y cubic feet of hydrogen.

When you burn these Y cubic feet of hydrogen in the engine, you get 15 gallons of water plus Z number of joules of energy.

These Z joules of energy need to be split into Z1 (for moving the car) and Z2 (for preparing hydrogen). If you look up above, you'll see that Z2=X.

The balance then goes like this (if you assume everything has 100% efficiency, which it doesn't)

X=Z1+X

If you look at this equation, you'll see that the best case scenario is Z1=0, which means you get nada to propel your car.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by nh_ee
At a high frequency the oscillating 50 Amps of current breaks the covalent bonds holding the water molecules together, essentially "cracking" the water resulting in separating the water into it's primary components of Hydrogen and Oxygen.


You can't trick the conservation of energy law, no matter what frequency you use.


As I had said, our very own sun runs on Hydrogen.
There is a lot of energy to be found there.


You don't get the difference between fusion and combustion, do you?


I have an old Jeep that I plan on doing this with....


Can't wait!



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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You're missing the points entirely.

Oil is a controlled resource.

Supply and demand rapes the people.

Water is an incredibly abundant resource.

All we need is to find better ways to desalinate sea-water, which I'm told very cheap, simple ways already exist.

This is about ending needless wars and restoring the power back to the people.

Energy is everywhere !!. No need to bypass the laws of conservation.

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posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 02:28 PM
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They are using electrolysis to produce brown's gas (hydrogen) and then burning it, and the waste product of that reaction is water vapor. There are several other news stories like this. Here is a video from several years ago about the same subject: www.youtube.com...



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 02:53 PM
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I dont get the complicated replies.
Using water as a fuel source is great.
As of right now, it is an endless supply.
and with glaciers melting at a rapid rate we are good to go.

GM and a few others already have a vehicle that will do this.
However they will be trying to sell just hydrogen the same way we buy gasoline.
on demand generation is right now the only way to go from what I hear because of the inability to store gas form hydrogen.
I guess the molecules are so small they leak out of any standard container, like a gas or propane tank.
Cool , looks like I will be buying my hummer afterall



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 03:12 PM
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It works, but todays cars are not built to burn it.

You must modify the O2 sensor, fine tune your generator, even add a second or third alternator to produce the amps needed.

The best we can hope for with a standard automobile is to mix the hydrogen/oxygen fuel with the gasoline alredy being used thereby "enriching" the fuel being burned, and allowing more of the fuel to be burned, and increasing gas mileage.

But you MUST at least remove or modify your O2 sensor for any positive results.

Smaller engines may be a different story, I believe it is possible to outfit a common riding lawnmower with an alternator from an automobile and produce enough HHO to completely power the lawnmower.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
I dont get the complicated replies.


You mean you don't get the following:

X+Y=X means Y=0

Is that what you don't get?



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by unityemissions
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You're missing the points entirely.


No I'm not. The point is, if you separate H2 and O2 out of water, then burn it, you won't get any energy above what you expended in the separation process.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by unityemissions
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You're missing the points entirely.


No I'm not. The point is, if you separate H2 and O2 out of water, then burn it, you won't get any energy above what you expended in the separation process.


How do you explain the atomic bomb?

Little energy input, massive energy output.

There is no breaking the law of conservation.

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posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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There are so many variations on these H gas systems that to say they don't work is ludicrous.

I guess magnetic over unity devices don't work either. I'll be sure to tell my electrical engn'r that his device at work is only an illusion.

Buddahasystem, you seem to be one of those people who know all there is about something you know absolutely nothing about. Stop embarrassing yourself.





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