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Violent Anti-Mosque crowd turns on Black Carpenter

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posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:15 PM
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Hey I can chose what user picture I want. Like I said the building is not going to be completed around 9/11/11. You know you lost the argument and now you're making it a childish game. Grow up!




posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:18 PM
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Perhaps you failed to notice the word MAY in one Title for your sources, and the word IF in the other title to your source.

Who has said that this Community Center and Mosque will not open on 09/11/11 are the people who are in fact building it.

If the actual builders were claiming that, that would be a credible source.

If the actual builders were claiming that on audio or video tape that would be a source.

What you have there are in fact just speculations by people who are not involved at the source, and have NO access to anyone at the source.

The actual builders of the Community Center and Mosque in fact have no slated opening date for this Center, and deny ever setting any date for it's opening let alone 9/11

Once again I urge you to read the ATS Terms of Service please and to abide by them in your posts.

Thanks.

[edit on 23/8/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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Well, you don't want them building a mosque because they are Muslim.


classic libartedness to bring out the 'bigot' card.

they can build a mosque anywhere else and no one would care. why must they build it as close as they possibly can to ground zero and open it on 9/11?

they know this is a sensitive issue. but why argue with 14 year olds? you just will never get it.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by insideNSA


Well, you don't want them building a mosque because they are Muslim.


classic libartedness to bring out the 'bigot' card.

they can build a mosque anywhere else and no one would care. why must they build it as close as they possibly can to ground zero and open it on 9/11?

they know this is a sensitive issue. but why argue with 14 year olds? you just will never get it.


Again with the name calling. I never seen another user sink so low. You claim we're bigots or we argue like children or teenagers let you call us libartedess.
That's very mature of you! "sarcasm."



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
First they blew up the Twin Towers and killed 3,000 people but I did not speak out because I was afraid of being called a bigot.

Then they arrived by the boatloads but I did not speak out because I was afraid of being branded a xenophobe.

Then the NY police department reported that extremists had infiltrated the NY Muslim community but I still didn't speak out from fear of being branded a racist.

Then they tried to build a mosque beside Ground Zero and name it after a victory mosque they had built on top of a conquered Spanish Cathedral. I did speak out because they were obviously using our freedoms against us and were clearly trying to rub our noses in it.

I was still called a xenophobe, a racist and bigot, but I didn't mind because 70% of Americans agreed with me.



Your first line ? Pontificate much ? There was plenty said much of it by those who believe an American has the right to build a house of worship wherever he likes.

A xenophobe you would be. The nation was built by people arriving "by the boatload"

The fact that there has been no subsequent attacks on US soil might point to the fact the extremists were quietly dealt with...yes/no ?

Our freedoms ? against us ? who is this us you speak of ? Would that be American citizens ? Or is that categorization only for white, christian citizens ?

Firstly there are lies, damn lies and statistics. Secondly. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck............

Honestly isn't the whole point of the United States the fact that we can be greater than the sum of our parts ?

Are we not supposed to ignore our differences and embrace our commonality ?

Should we walk in fear of differences ? Or should we embrace the future (which includes muslims, hispanics, black, white, christian, jew, atheist etc.) secure in the knowledge that being an American means more than any other affiliation ?

Screw the fear-mongers, laugh at the haters. Let the world see that yes indeed this is the United States and we are one people united in voice and purpose.

To do anything else shames us.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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Perhaps you failed to notice the word MAY in one Title for your sources, and the word IF in the other title to your source


may and if are used because the event hasn't happened yet, though it is planned to happen.

with support from people like you it probably will open on 9/11/11.

just google it... are you telling several news sources throughout the world are wrong and you are right?

buddy you lost this argument 5 posts ago. i'll let my sensible ATS patriots continue to reply to your very weak arguments and lies.

i urge you to admit when you are wrong. i do, and you just might feel better for it.

[edit on 23-8-2010 by insideNSA]



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by insideNSA

with support from people like you it probably will open on 9/11/11.

just google it... are you telling several news sources throughout the world are wrong and you are right?


Did you check out the link I posted in a response to you?

Imam Rauf and Daisy Khan have both flat-out denied that it will open on 9/11/11. That was a rumor; I'm not sure if the Post article by Andrea Peyser you linked was the first source or whether it was one of the bloggers.

But do you notice something missing from all the reports that that will be the opening date? A source?

Even the Post has backed off reporting that tidbit, probably because they discovered it wasn't true. That fact hasn't stopped bloggers from continuing to spread it, though.



edit to add link, fix bbcode

[edit on 8/23/2010 by americandingbat]



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by insideNSA
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel
 




dude. your user photo says it all!


Are you the guy who lambasted another posters debate technique in a pm to them, dude check the ego and the rudeness, you're on thin ice.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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Thank you. Personally I think the user is just trolling on the boards.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Again with the name calling. I never seen another user sink so low


you just called me a bigot, then tell me that you never saw a user stoop so low as to call names!

wow! do you think things through. talk about the kettle calling the pot black!

this is why debating you guys is impossible.... logic just doesn't seem to matter



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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I also notice you conveniently don't address what you did to stormdancer. if you want i'll pull quotes from that thread where she brings up cogent points and you bash her for it claiming they are 'off topic' just because you don't like what she had to say.


Some members are so viral in their posting of propaganda some post the same exact post in thread after thread which is against ATS Terms of Service.

[edit on 23/8/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

proto
I find it ironic you continue to post about this member in the way you do! But you of all people know the power of being repetitive.
It's ironic one of your ******* violated ATS Terms of Service close to a dozen or more times in just this last week in order to post propaganda of her own negative agenda.
Please don't ask me to prove this.

sl



[edit on 23-8-2010 by sweetliberty]



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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post removed for serious violation of ATS Terms & Conditions



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Sorry, we libtards apparently don't equate logic with xenophobic rhetoric, empty content, and inflamatory propaganda.

*edited for spelling*

[edit on 8/23/10 by Hefficide]



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by insideNSA

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Again with the name calling. I never seen another user sink so low


you just called me a bigot, then tell me that you never saw a user stoop so low as to call names!

wow! do you think things through. talk about the kettle calling the pot black!

this is why debating you guys is impossible.... logic just doesn't seem to matter


Show one of my post where I called you a bigot. I never called you any name. I debated you with sources while you criticized me for doing so. Again show me where I called you a bigot.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by americandingbat
 


Thank you. Personally I think the user is just trolling on the boards.

I'd argue about that with you RR...
Except it looks that way to the rest of us too...
I thought you and Proto stated your case eloquently and fairly.
and really ADB verified that too...



[edit on 23-8-2010 by Danbones]



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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post removed because the user has no concept of manners

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posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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just google it... are you telling several news sources throughout the world are wrong and you are right?


Chicken Little was considered a News Source until people figured out the sky was not falling.

News Sources widely reported there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, yet there were none.

News Source could be anything including the blogs and highly speculative authors who often either invent or slant things in agenda driven biased ways.

Yet the actual source of what would be news in relation to when the Mosque and Community Center is slated to be open would be the actual builders.

Your "news sources" have not gotten this information from the actual source, they have invented the news that they are peddling, just like Weapons of Mass Destruction was invented for poltical purposes.

Specifically the political purposes of war, death and destruction.

In fact now that you mention it, though I am not religious, I may, actually make a donation to this building project, because ultimately while you may proclaim victory until the cows come home, you sure haven't persuaded me on this issue to abandon the constitution.

Nor are you likely too.

Yes I think I will have to investigate tomorrow how I can donate generously to see that this mosque and community center are built just as expeditiously as possible!

When they ask why a non-Muslim like me would donate to this cause, I will explain to them your convinced me!

Thanks.



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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Alot of people asserting that tha guy in the muslim style hat
was merely a passer bye, ppffft! He didnt pass bye at all, he
walked right through, straight to the speaker and then turned
and stopped. Almost looked like he was an organised agitator.
I dont agree with the the way he was treated or the ill informed
placards but his route was odd and didnt exactly look like he was
going to start work at a building site. And he sure wasnt in a hurry.

Also alot of people here defending the constitution and its
freedoms, but doesnt the patriot act render the constitution
null and void?

Finally Shamus you are a politically correct compulsive conformist
who readily jumps on any popular band wagon and your threads
and posts prove it, you must really enjoy FOX news. Go back to NZ!



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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Not at all surprising. Disgusting. But not surprisng.

That's what fanning ethnic and religious hatred gets you.



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