Originally posted by malachi777
As a proud AMERICAN citizen, I am here to tell all of you how disgusted I am with your jealous, ignorant, know it all rants against the United States of America!!! My country is not perfect but it is fact that we are the most powerful country in the world, we are proud of our accomplishments, especially for being an infant country. Because of our freedoms, beliefs, military might and compassion, America has been a savior to many countries around the globe. Yes, we have made mistakes and I feel the attack on Iraq was a mistake, but without the US, you know this world would be a living hell. It is hate such as yours that makes us such a powerful country. We keep updating our military technologies to defend our people from you fools. I am sick and tired of my government trying to fight fair, which has drastically extended our wars because there are so many rules of combat. An American soldier cannot fire back at the enemy if there are innocent bystanders in the way. If we unleashed our power, no holds barred, the United States would quickly destroy the enemy. I am not being cocky or arrogant, I am being factual. The most important point is the fact that the United States of America has given and given trillions in aid and money to numerous countries, offer free medical care around the globe, saving people with surgery at no cost, sacrificed its people to save others etc...and all we get is your ignorant, jealous rants. God Bless America and although I am deeply offended, God Bless the ignorant fools and teach them that the United States is a country with good intentions for the people of this unforgiving world.

Glad you have passion.

It would be a nice story if you were right.

I agree that this may be the most likely reason for war in both Iran and Iraq.
But one thing I don't get it is that why would the whole eurozone be willing to support US in its quest to stop the oil exchange for euros?! Could someone please explain.

I am starting to get super excited... It wont be long , our troops will find all of the religious freaks from Iran hiding in an underground bunker.
(Thats where dirty rodents hide when being chased)

The middle east is going to be the start of WW3 ... because it is filled with Violent religious freaks!!

I myself cant wait... I believe the only way peace will be achieved is for WW3 to wake up the world.. Imagine where we would be if all Militaries were not needed.. Imagine if we could work together as a planet... Instead of a bunch of countries..

We would already be on other planets by now.. War is awfull.... But sometimes it is necessary..

From Airspoon:
Of course, I could be wrong, but I am almost certain that it will play out this way. In fact, I would be willing to bet money on it. Also, IMO, it's not if Iran comes under attack, it's when Iran comes under attack. It would have to be a miracle for Iran to get out of the cross-hairs unscathed.

Airspoon, that little snippet hit me like a ton of bricks. It would take a major, MAJOR hostile act to get Americans to instantly shift everyones views to attacking Iran. Short of a continental nuclear strike, instead I believe the president would be assasinated by someone who is immediately distinguished/identified as an agent of Iran. That would elicit an immediate response from the US. Of course the whole affair would reek of false-flag!
This would explain all the mystery surrounding our current commander in chief.
That would definitely ignite World War 3.

S & F for you, Kind Sir!

And exactly how will this hypothetical war come about? The US is doing everything it can to close up shop in Iraq, and Afghanistan will be much the same by election times in 2012. If Obama has any inkling in him to get reelected, he'll have to follow through with a withdrawal from Afghanistan, regardless of the ground situation. I expect Karzai is going to get alot of blame dumped on his lap.

So, were theorizing the intentions of a major invasion of a nation with a population larger than Iraq and Afghanistan combined. The logistics of getting such an invasion in force would be readily apparent to everyone globally, so we'd have to assume that we'd have international approval, or at least UN backing.
The American people would not stomach another war, especially one that would be the size of an invasion of Iran....at least not for another 10-15 years.

This doesn't add up. The US won't have to invade Iran, their own youth and younger generations will see to their upheaval.

Originally posted by Canslli
I know that the Iranian government it's not the best in the world. Far from it. But i don't think that the USA government is better than Iran.

It’s not that they are better or worst it that we disagree on things and America is the 800 pound gorilla, and a country like Iran can only talk about the things they wish they can do where America can actually do what they talk about.

If they were the 800 pound gorilla the world over there would look much different.


[edit on 24-8-2010 by Xtrozero]

I'm not disagreeing with Airspoon, but if the world market wanted another currency besides the dollar, it would have happened before now. And when or if we have a double dip recession or depression, those world leaders will come running to the USA for help.
Iran's leader is an idiot himself, running his mouth all the time. The latest missle display to the world this last week, is a joke, won.t last 10 minutes in a real contest.
Obama could have disfused this rheteroic if he was not incompetent. The only thing Obama can do is read from a telepromtor, A very bad mistake, the people of the USA electing the most incompetent president ever in our history. Then when elected he talks transparency, but seals all his past records. What a joke, but the good ole USA citizens are good hearted, but sometimes really stupid by voting for a community organizer. I thought presidents had to be honorable men, high courage, military, business men. goverors, OOPS not the last election.
Many common sense people see the Iranian leader as to the likings of Hitler. The blue print is there. People around the world today are as il-lightened as those people in Engalnd, France, Poland, Holland,etc. right before world war II. They were blind to the future war about to bestow upon them. Do any of us see in Iran a slight resemblence to the 1930's.
General Eisenhower told his photographers to take as many picture and film as they had to show the atrosities of the Holocast. His remarks were, " The future generations will not believe this, so take as many photos as you can to show this horror". For someone to deny the holocast, they must be fromanother planet or just a downright ignorant person, but they may have other motives also.
Iran already has the bomb, that is one of the reasons Isreal did not attack. The North Koreans supplied them. Iran because of their clumsey words, false intentions, and the show they are putting on, will suffer a "first strike". And then through their ignorance will retaliate with nuclear weapons that they have bought secretly from North Korea. Remember a couple of months ago when the NOrth Korean ship suddenly return to port in order not to be searched. Add 2 & 2 see what you come up with.
Many of these post on this thread is propoganda. As an american, don't fall into thie thought processes, if yo have to go outside and get some fresh air, come back in and see if you really believe what you are reading.
All this Nuclear stuff with Iran is so eassy to stop. As former President Reagan said, "Trust by verify." So simple. If Iran is haidng some they will contiune on the dangerous path they are trodding, if they are not hiding anythis, "Turst but Verify."
And don't compare Andrew Jackson with Iran or Muslems. He first of all had respect for women. Jackson was a hands on leader, he got onto the battlefield with his Military. I slao, think most of and all Americans should believe with him concerning his anti-banking policies. You do know the Federal Reserve Charter is up Dec. 21, 2012, What does that mean?
The former Impeached President Clinton had no ideal how to stop the NOrth Koreans from making a nuclear bomb, no does the incompetent President Obama know how to stop Iran.
Always think about what your reading, never read a piece and believe it or let it change your core principles. Always question Authority. Look where AUTHORITY has got the whole world.
Do not Think there may be a war between North and SOuth KOrea. Do not think a third world was is impossible. Do not think GOD will not let it happen. There are real sins and there are real consequences.
In closing, We need to secure our borders. I do not think the Obama administration of this Congress will ever apologise to the American Public for what they are now doing. Look around see for yourself how these two entites are "BLEEDING AMERICA TO DEATH".

If Iran doesn't want to get bombed, and radioactive, reactor contents of their nuclear programme, blown over their country; then it shouldn't be deliberately trying to add to the economic problems of the American people-government!!!
That outcome, is only going to increase, Western government’s need to keep people distracted, and a major war would not doubt only stimulate the U.S economy, and but also the minds of the people.
The only major "obstacle is people war, weariness. However the government proved over Iraq the lengths it will go to, in order to create any propaganda that justifies its economic war-theories.