Cancer is DEAD: Cancer cures from A to Z, page 20


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reply posted on 13-11-2010 @ 09:30 AM by JohnJasper
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Originally posted by gsup1
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I know you are trying to help but don't be quick to dismiss big pharma. Lots of people that work there have passion for what they are doing ( trying to help people live ).


I'm sure that a lot of people with at least an once of humanity work for big pharma but that doesn't change the fact that big pharma are in it just for the money. What they provide is treatments (and I use that term loosely) for those who can afford them.

Where any question is raised about the safety or the efficacy of any of their products, they don't want to know and they'll spend millions to keep any bad news about their products quiet with the backing of the FDA and the AMA.

We are their milchcows and the last thing they want is for us to get well and quit needing their drugs.

(Rant over :flame


reply posted on 15-11-2010 @ 02:09 PM by DavidKrabs
reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss



One thing I feel the need to point out is that the term "cure for cancer" is a stretch. What might be a better way to describe them is by calling them "treatments" rather then cure.



reply posted on 15-11-2010 @ 02:11 PM by DavidKrabs
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While I do believe that the big pharma business has got too much power, and influence in many areas of life. I can't believe that a cure for cancer is being withheld. Ask yourself, if you were the scientist who found a cure for cancer woudl you allow anything to get in your way from making your discovery wide known? You'd be the savior of millions, the hero of billions, and a huge millionaire.


reply posted on 15-11-2010 @ 05:13 PM by gsup1
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Yeah in some place cancer is being looked at as a chronic condition. Sometimes it caused by genetics and sometimes environmental factors.

Yes there is no single cure for cancer since there are many types of cancer. One drug that can work effectively against colon cancer, will not work against prostate cancer.


reply posted on 16-11-2010 @ 02:19 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Originally posted by gsup1
You can see that they tested these drugs that had IC50 ( concentration needed to inhibit 50% of whatever it is you are trying to stop) they ranged from .3 micro molar ( 300 nano molar ) to 22 micro molar. This is just basic study, they will mostly like try to get those drugs by changing the structute so that the it will be in the 100-50 nm range. You want nano molar range because you want the drug to be as potent as possible and as less toxic as possible when you give it in high doses to a patient. The 50 micro molar potency is fine but you need to do better in order to get a drug out there and find out what exactly in the aloe inhibits the growth of those cells. If you manage to get it down to nano molar, you need to proceed with mice experiments because you want to see how the drug acts in vivo ( in the body ) and see if it works. Then you would do these experiments in primates and if they are safe, you go onto humans. I know what you are thinking, this is slow and that is what they are trying to solve on how to find an animal model that can be used to predict results in humans. In vitro results only give a preview of the POTENTIAL for it to help against a disease. Basing results on just in vitro experiments ( in the cell culture plates where you cannot simulate the bodily environment ) is not a good idea.


I think you misunderstand my questioning.

What I was asking is how would one scale nm, etc, from a mouse model, etc, into real life dosages? Reason for such would be to determine how absurd of amounts of any given thing you would need to take to try to have results. Inherently, this then equates how absurd it would cost to attempt to maintain a regimen.

This perspective is important to have people not waste their money on half measures, and bring into reality the scale of potential adverse effects, for perspective, from trying to actually take how much of etc that would actually be needed.For instance there are many things that are fine in 'small' doses, but if you go and manage to eat half a pound of etc you might have a bad day.


reply posted on 16-11-2010 @ 05:08 PM by JohnJasper
reply to post by DavidKrabs



Originally posted by DavidKrabs
reply to post by JohnJasper



While I do believe that the big pharma business has got too much power, and influence in many areas of life. I can't believe that a cure for cancer is being withheld. Ask yourself, if you were the scientist who found a cure for cancer woudl you allow anything to get in your way from making your discovery wide known? You'd be the savior of millions, the hero of billions, and a huge millionaire.


You'll get no argument from me here. Both pharma and the medical profession are making huge profits "curing" cancer via surgery, chemo and radiation as well as the profits from screening and prevention services. If they could add more pills, potions or whatever to this cocktail, they'd be on it like a shot.

The problem is that the real cure for cancer was found more than 100 years ago and it basically comes down to living within the laws of nature. There's very little profit to be made from instructing patients on how to eat, rest, manage stress, avoid toxins and exercise properly although some small income to be made from managing fasts to support the body in healing itself. To be fair, there was little interest from the patients who didn't want to change their unhealthy lifestyles and were happier to put faith in doctors/medicines that promised easy "cures."

Reference: Natural Hygiene Society


reply posted on 4-1-2011 @ 08:11 AM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by DavidKrabs
reply to
post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss



One thing I feel the need to point out is that the term "cure for cancer" is a stretch. What might be a better way to describe them is by calling them "treatments" rather then cure.


I donno about that. Both my urologist and my oncologist told me that radiation treatment would cure my cancer, and it did. How about I u2u their names, you contact them and tell them what you're saying...then report back on that discussion?


reply posted on 7-1-2011 @ 11:49 PM by dnvrliz
Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
I appreciate all of your appreciation!

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post by Myendica



Funny response!

I don't know that I'll have the patience to PDF it, have never done it. I'm supposed to have been making a movie all this time.
Here it is in DOC form:
agimanhattanproject.com...
It'll be integrated into normal HTML there in a day or 2.


THANK YOU..............THANK YOU .........THANK YOU...........

I have copied it off of DOC and I will have it always, when the internet goes down I will still be able to CURE cancer for people that have no hope !!!!!

Thanks !!!
[edit on 22-8-2010 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]



reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 07:16 PM by GoldenChild
reply to post by Whitbit



Hey Whitbit, check back a few pages, I created a PDF file with all the info in that you might find useful.

Sadly however, my mum lost her fight with cancer last week - turns out she had a particularly virulent form of it, the damn thing just ate her away in the end. We had her funeral today, what a sad affair. So many friends, we had about 120 people there to share the moment.

RIP Mum.


reply posted on 20-1-2011 @ 07:20 PM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by GoldenChild
reply to
post by Whitbit



Hey Whitbit, check back a few pages, I created a PDF file with all the info in that you might find useful.

Sadly however, my mum lost her fight with cancer last week - turns out she had a particularly virulent form of it, the damn thing just ate her away in the end. We had her funeral today, what a sad affair. So many friends, we had about 120 people there to share the moment.

RIP Mum.

My condolences. Lost my father that way too.
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