It's unfortunate that due to the nature of there work police will always stick together when they can, including covering for fellow officers that commit crimes or use poor judgement,

The .45ACP is inherently a sub sonic round. It is also a formidable round since the standard 230g FMJ and/or ball projectile has a tendency to cause rather disastrous conflict upon reaching it's target.

Screw a suppressor on the end of said .45ACP and all those within earshot only hear the click of the action...if that.

Rather than advocate for an outcome, I'm merely extending food for thought.

Having a child isn't like buying a Sea Monkey kit at Wal Mart. Should the Sea Monkey kit be knocked over and soil the carpet? Out comes the Bissel to remedy the situation.

Should a child be stolen from his/her family (regardless of age) a different tool is used to remedy the situation.

While such a mentality as previously hinted at can be viewed as barbaric, said view is typically taken aghast typically by those who haven't nurtured and looked into the eyes of their own children.

Again, there is no advocacy regarding an outcome but merely a thought regarding a remedy.

That being stated, I proudly wear the Gadsden flag and woe to those who interpret a mere T shirt as only that.

It reminds me of an incident that happened in my small town about 15 years ago that involved a State Cop and me and my friend,

On the weekends all these State Cops would hang out at this local bar some on duty some off, but all would drive their squad cars to the bar.

One night one of the cops left the bar drunk and wrapped his squad car around a rail road crossing pole.

Just so happens me and my buddy were out driving around and he had just gotten this video camera for his birthday and we just out having a good time filming everything, we were about 17 at the time.

Well, we came across this accident just right after it happened nobody had shown up yet, and started filming the whole thing.

This State cop stumbled out of his car and took off running from the scene before any other cops showed up.

Well we got it all on film.

He along his state cop buddies and local police concocted some story, that he was at home with his wife and someone must have stolen his car and taken it for a joy ride and wrecked it and ran from the scene.

The whole thing was in the paper the next day, how a local state cops patrol car had been stolen and wrecked and they suspected teenagers did it etc....

Somehow they got wind that we had a videotape of the whole thing, and state and local cops paid us both a visit demanding the videotape or they were going to arrest us for obstructing justice.

They were like, we know you have a videotape of the accident and if you just turn it over to us nothing will happen to you, but if you dont we can arrest you, your parents, etc..

We told them we didnt know what they were talking about, we didnt have a tape or anything.

So for like a week the were following us everywhere we went harrassing us, pulling us over, comin by out house, telling us how they were going to put us in jail if we didnt turn over the evidence.

Anyway to make along story short, we finally had to go to the states attorny with the videotape and tell them what had been happening.

A bunch of state and local cops got fired for trying to cover up this state cops wreck and harrassing 2 minors.

But, it was definitely an eye opener to learn just how the cops will do anything for one another even to go as far as to cover up a crime and harrass and threaten 2 teenagers.

[edit on 22-8-2010 by skull_bones]

You know what really stinks? The Mayor did the right thing but in doing so may harm his political career. He's the Man in the town. This happened on his watch. And when the civil suits start up the city, that means the voters, are going to have to pay because of the force.

Every Mayor and every Governor in every state should be following this man's lead. No exceptions.

This is all it would take, to put a grinding halt to the out-of-control madness that has become the United States Police Crime Syndicate.

He should be commended by every professional in his field. He would be wise to circle the wagons with his friends and affiliates in politics. This could spur a rather welcoming new trend.

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks

Originally posted by richierich
Notice how all the cop groupies , who normally slavishly rush to defend any cop at any time, are noticeable absent from this thread.

Originally posted by richierich
Cops are NOT ' professionals ', by any definition of the word. Professionals do NOT neglect to enforce profressional and legal ethics and violate the rules and laws...

...thats incredibly naive... there are no professions that should be put up on a pedestal - because - all professionals are humans and all humans have personality flaws, just like you, just like me...

...what your comment up there says about you is - you expect cops to act like infallible gods, then you get pissed off when some act like they think they're gods and you get pissed off when some fail to act like the gods you think they should be... if you could come to the understanding that all human groups contain good people, bad people and inbetweeners, you might not be so angry all the time...

Originally posted by richierich
cops always want US to pay strict attention to the laws, while they cover up for their buddies and laugh at us for being powerless....sick freaks. Some day....some day..

...yeah, well, you're entitled to your opinion - even though its naive and full of generalizations (which, btw, make you wrong by default)...

Uh, do you actually believe that last part? You don't think that public servants who wield the power to incarcerate and kill us should not be held to a higher standard than people in other professions which do not have such an overt and adverse effect on people's lives? If you do, I pity you, because you are one of the weak sheep that the wolves in power depend upon to maintain their position.

Our local Wakulla County Sheriff crashed his car, was drunk, fled the scene, got home, sobered up, then later called in the crash. Responding officers worked for him! What could they do? Eventually Florida Highway Patrol got involved, but all they could charge after so much time was leaving the scene of an accident. That charge was later dropped due to no witnesses and flimsy excuses from the sheriff.

Luckily it was only property damage for this guy, although he is now known as "Hit and Run Harvey!"

He is still on the job protecting and serving his own interests!