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Australian hung parliament

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posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 04:53 AM
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As Australia faces its first hung parliament since 1940, a decision on the make-up of the next government rests in the hands of up to six individuals not aligned with either Labor or the coalition.

news.ninemsn.com.au...

I've put this in the "Global Meltdown" forum for a reason.

After seeing the same thing happen in the UK I told my wife this is what will happen in Australia..

Why? Because it's the best way for TPTB to do things against "we the people" and have an "out" by saying they didn't have full control of goverment...

Lets see what November brings in the US..
If the result is the same then we all know it was planned and our votes mean nothing...




posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 04:56 AM
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America is heading for a deadlock in November. Political instability. Design to show the masses that "our governments" do not work and we need international solutions.



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 04:58 AM
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reply to post by infinite
 


Is that agreeing with the notion that it's planned and rigged that way?

Because thats how I see it..



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 05:00 AM
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Yes.

There are plans for the United Nations Assembly to become democratically elected, under the UN reform plans. It has been discussed by politicians, not just pressure groups and activists.



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 05:01 AM
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Hiya
I am an Australian living in Australia.
My husband and I were just talking about this.
Agreed, it could very well be an orchestrated move on the Gov's part.
He plays World of Warcraft and people on there are also talking of the same thing.
November will be interesting, for sure!
Cheers, VA



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 05:03 AM
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I like your thinking,i said the same thing to my wife,but added that Julia Goolia will get in and be the puppet just like obama.



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 05:13 AM
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Hmm, why not..

Australia would have a Welsh imigrant as the US has a Kenyan



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 05:39 AM
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There is no way this election could have been rigged.
A drawn result is a totally pointless exercise anyway.

If you know how the electoral system works here, with full scrutiny of votes, and a full paper trail, it is just not possible to get such an even swing throughout the whole country.

NOBODY here has questioned the voting results, because what happened is entirely consistent with pre election polls carried out by the media, professional poll companies, and the political parties themselves, and the individual expectations of the voters themselves in their own electorates.

If there were huge irregularities away from what people generally expected to happen in their own electorates, the alarm bells would be ringing loudly.

Anyhow, what happens next is going to be interesting.

My own belief is that it probably does not matter which side finally forms a minority government. It will be unworkable.

I can see another election coming fairly soon, probably in only a few months time. That is what usually happens in a situation like this.

The Governor General could sack the government, dissolve Parliament, and call for a fresh election at any time, and may be forced to do so if it becomes totally unworkable.

But not before sufficient time has elapsed for the voters to get a really good taste of what each political party is about.
By that time public anger and frustration over this mess will be more focused, and I think we will get a much clearer result next election.


[edit on 22/8/2010 by Silver Shadow]



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by Silver Shadow
There is no way this election could have been rigged.
A drawn result is a totally pointless exercise anyway.

If you know how the electoral system works here, with full scrutiny of votes, and a full paper trail, it is just not possible to get such an even swing throughout the whole country.

[edit on 22/8/2010 by Silver Shadow]


I agree with you, purely as the swing toward the Liberals reflected the feelings of my partner and myself. We both planned to vote differently, but decided to go with the Libs (oh, and of course, the Climate Change Deniers party
).



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 05:58 AM
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My electorate is one of the bluest of the blue Liberal seats.
And that has never changed, and it is inconceivable that it ever will.
The swing here was only 0.1% more liberal this election.

No matter which way I voted, the outcome here was never in doubt.



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 06:28 AM
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Vince for PM!



Cheers
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 06:50 AM
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Well maybe I'm just phycic and should have put money on it...

I call it as I see it...

BTW, please dont tell me any Goverment is honest and hasn't lied to the people..There's too much proof overwise...



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by CynicalM
BTW, please dont tell me any Goverment is honest and hasn't lied to the people..There's too much proof overwise...


That's why I didn't bother to vote.

Neither of them are worthy of ruling over me.



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 06:57 AM
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Me either BTW...

Whats the point when you believe you will be ruled by who THEY say anyways...

The whole system is screwed..
Till we take it back there is no point in voting..



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 07:01 AM
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reply to post by NuclearPaul
 


You have a mighty high opinion of yourself, don't you?



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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Sorry but I agree with them..

I'd like to see "real" people represent me in Goverment..

Not career poloticians who have no concept of what its like in the real world, devoid of the kickbacks, expense accounts and excessive retirement funds..



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 07:09 AM
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reply to post by CynicalM
 


Mate, you're not psychic, many people believed there would be a hung parliament.

It's just the trend in Australian politics right now, thanks largely to the increased popularity of smaller parties like the Greens who are taking more and more of the big two party's votes coupled with a growing distrust with these two parties.

What it boils down to for this election is we have the Liberals who just 12 months ago were falling apart from the inside and have barely managed to unite in time for this election and the Labour party, who are in total disarray thanks to the backstabbing of Rudd by Gillard.

The one thing Gillard has done right is call the election as soon as she got into power, that was a huge risk for her to do that, but she wanted to be an elected PM, not a walk-in like a certain British fellow.



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by Silver Shadow
There is no way this election could have been rigged.
A drawn result is a totally pointless exercise anyway.

If you know how the electoral system works here, with full scrutiny of votes, and a full paper trail, it is just not possible to get such an even swing throughout the whole country.

NOBODY here has questioned the voting results, because what happened is entirely consistent with pre election polls carried out by the media, professional poll companies, and the political parties themselves, and the individual expectations of the voters themselves in their own electorates.

If there were huge irregularities away from what people generally expected to happen in their own electorates, the alarm bells would be ringing loudly.

Anyhow, what happens next is going to be interesting.

My own belief is that it probably does not matter which side finally forms a minority government. It will be unworkable.

I can see another election coming fairly soon, probably in only a few months time. That is what usually happens in a situation like this.

The Governor General could sack the government, dissolve Parliament, and call for a fresh election at any time, and may be forced to do so if it becomes totally unworkable.

But not before sufficient time has elapsed for the voters to get a really good taste of what each political party is about.
By that time public anger and frustration over this mess will be more focused, and I think we will get a much clearer result next election.


[edit on 22/8/2010 by Silver Shadow]


How can you say there is no way the election can be rigged ?? The ballot is done on pen and paper and no Id is needed to vote. I could have driven to 5 or 6 ballots in my area and made 5 or 6 votes.



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 07:18 AM
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reply to post by wycky
 


You're forgetting that you are voting for a local candidate who represents your electorate in parliament.

5 or 6 extra votes probably would have no effect at all on the overall vote.

Best case scenario for your theory would be that you might get 1 seat out of 150 with a rigged vote.



[edit on 22/8/10 by Chadwickus]



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 07:19 AM
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Wycky.....

I believe the "rigging" could occur via scamming votes in the marginal seats.

What does the labour party say?

"Vote early, vote often!"


Cheers



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