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posted on Aug, 26 2010 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Mobius1974
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keep that view point in mind when the SHTF... It is going to happen soon (I hope) And I think that when stacked against such a force... Israel is going to kick some serious arse!!! I am going to keep you in mind... I will be messaging some of you guys that know Soooooooo much about israeli power...

How can you make assumptions and pass them off as facts??
Show me one source saying that US told Israel they were on their own..
Any source? Of course not..

This is your opinion based on MSM and what ever you can drum up on your anti-US/Israel based searches on google.

How did you gauge their fear?? Or is there an Israeli leader saying this out loud? Or is this your opinion?

I truely hope one day soon, people on ATS figure out the difference between Opinions and facts...



Why do you think Israel was on it's own when it struck Hezbollah? The West saw it for what it truly was, Israel crying wolf. The lack of US intervention during that period confirms this.

The MSM don't mean jack to me and I do not ever use that controlled medium for info as it is all corrupt.

Out of the top 100 Nations on the planet militarially Israel doesn't even place in the Top 50. The top 10 is as follows :

USA, Russia, China, UK, Saudi Arabia, Australia, India, Brazil, Germany, France.

Get one thing correct, I am not, nor have I ever een Anti Israeli and don't even dare call me Anti American. Anytime someone tries to tell truth about Israel they are automatically labeled as Anti Semetic. I've done way more then you and many people here in serving our nation. I live in Jersey City, NJ the home to The Statue of Liberty and that very beacon doesn't allow me to turn against this nation. Lady Liberty's torch shines bright all day, every day.

I had a chance meeting with someone whose connections go straight to Pres. Peres' office as well as to Palestinian Pres. Abass' office in June-July 07 timeframe and I told him to tell them to back down for which they did. If that encounter would've been posted on the web it would've defeated the entire purpose of handling the matter internally and privately. Not everything that happens behind the scenes is posted to protect certain interests and individuals. The thinking behind that was that at times you've gotta be able to tell your allies to back down and when they do not is the time to distance yourself from them when they do time and time again the very thing you tell them not to do. That meeting ended up in being made public in the Obama speech from Cairo Q3 2009.

You ever wonder why MSM never reports on anything positive regarding Islam as MSM is Zionist controlled and God forbid anything hypocrtical of Israel makes it to air, that would mean that Israel is a liar.

Islam had nothing to do with 9/11, Trilateral Commission, Concil On Forgien Relations, Bilderberg Group perpitrated the attacks in a massive grab for power and total and utter control over everything. 19 Arabs may've been the attack squad but that is the total extent of it.

Investigate how did 19 idiots get to fly planes?, Who sponsored thier visa's? al Qaida is a CIA pawn group and nothing more.

I'm sure you've been hearing reports of a "New al Qaida" and a "New bin Ladin"? That's because the al-Qaida and Islam attacked us myth no longer is believable and no longer holds water. The FBI announced in 2008 that it could not find anything to connect bin Ladin to 9/11, look at bin Ladin's FBI Ten Most Wanted link, no mention of 9/11.




posted on Aug, 26 2010 @ 03:03 PM
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Do you know how much shorter you could have made that long winded OPINION!!!

I am right.. You are mistaking opinions and assumptions for facts.. Really really sad...



posted on Aug, 26 2010 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by Mobius1974
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
 


Do you know how much shorter you could have made that long winded OPINION!!!

I am right.. You are mistaking opinions and assumptions for facts.. Really really sad...


The following thread with 2 posts by me explains everything :
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I've bene on "the inside" and in "the undebelly" of TPTB and this order was decreed to them directly. The world is sick of rouge nations like Israel striking anyone it wants to. Remember when Israel told Palestine that "it better not dare go to The UN seeking statehood!"? No, because things like that are a threat to your foundation, my iq is somewhere between 150 - 170 which means I am smarter then roughly 8 out of every 10 people. Those who will be quick to either discredit or to poke holes in a report are traditionally those who are told what the MSM wants them to know and are usually the ones who will not hear all the facts before making an informed desicion. I am willing to hear things from a different prespective and viewpoint, the question remains are you? I will also be open to listen to any viewpoint regardless of how radical or far fetched it seems. My stances change daily as more facts are known, my stance pertaining to this today will not nesseicarily be my stance tommorrow but facts talk the talk while blatant BS walks.

My support forever eternally sits with the Israeli people, The Palestinian People as well as obviously the American people. I however am Anti Israeli Government because of it's war crimes and consistant disregard for the law and the will of others. Blind support of any nation is wrong.

One this the MSM will never report on which they should is the 23 member nation known as The League Of Arab Nations is currently working on a plan to make the entire Middle East a Nuclear Free Zone because it puts Arabs and Islam in a positive light.

[edit on 26-8-2010 by TheImmaculateD1]



posted on Aug, 26 2010 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
 


keep that view point in mind when the SHTF... It is going to happen soon (I hope) And I think that when stacked against such a force... Israel is going to kick some serious arse!!! I am going to keep you in mind... I will be messaging some of you guys that know Soooooooo much about israeli power...

How can you make assumptions and pass them off as facts??
Show me one source saying that US told Israel they were on their own..
Any source? Of course not..

This is your opinion based on MSM and what ever you can drum up on your anti-US/Israel based searches on google.

How did you gauge their fear?? Or is there an Israeli leader saying this out loud? Or is this your opinion?

I truely hope one day soon, people on ATS figure out the difference between Opinions and facts...






Why do you think Israel was on it's own when it struck Hezbollah? The West saw it for what it truly was, Israel crying wolf. The lack of US intervention during that period confirms this.

The MSM don't mean jack to me and I do not ever use that controlled medium for info as it is all corrupt.

Out of the top 100 Nations on the planet militarially Israel doesn't even place in the Top 50. The top 10 is as follows :

USA, Russia, China, UK, Saudi Arabia, Australia, India, Brazil, Germany, France.

Get one thing correct, I am not, nor have I ever een Anti Israeli and don't even dare call me Anti American. Anytime someone tries to tell truth about Israel they are automatically labeled as Anti Semetic. I've done way more then you and many people here in serving our nation. I live in Jersey City, NJ the home to The Statue of Liberty and that very beacon doesn't allow me to turn against this nation. Lady Liberty's torch shines bright all day, every day.


Wow.. how do you know what I have done for this country? Your unbelievable!



I had a chance meeting with someone whose connections go straight to Pres. Peres' office as well as to Palestinian Pres. Abass' office in June-July 07 timeframe and I told him to tell them to back down for which they did.


Roflmao... Are you for real? Have you concocted this imaginary view of yourself and your importance in this world? I am no expert.... But I think you should talk to someone about your dilusional thoughts.. You might be a danger to yourself and others around you.. But, again, I am no expert..
It is just my opinion.. I am bright enough to know my opinions are NOT facts!



If that encounter would've been posted on the web it would've defeated the entire purpose of handling the matter internally and privately. Not everything that happens behind the scenes is posted to protect certain interests and individuals. The thinking behind that was that at times you've gotta be able to tell your allies to back down and when they do not is the time to distance yourself from them when they do time and time again the very thing you tell them not to do. That meeting ended up in being made public in the Obama speech from Cairo Q3 2009.


I have gone from being interested in what you had to say.. To not wanting to interact with you anymore.. I dont like to ignore people, so I would appreciate it if you would act like we never talked. Ignore my posts, and my OPINIONS!



You ever wonder why MSM never reports on anything positive regarding Islam as MSM is Zionist controlled and God forbid anything hypocrtical of Israel makes it to air, that would mean that Israel is a liar.

Islam had nothing to do with 9/11, Trilateral Commission, Concil On Forgien Relations, Bilderberg Group perpitrated the attacks in a massive grab for power and total and utter control over everything. 19 Arabs may've been the attack squad but that is the total extent of it.

Investigate how did 19 idiots get to fly planes?, Who sponsored thier visa's? al Qaida is a CIA pawn group and nothing more.

I'm sure you've been hearing reports of a "New al Qaida" and a "New bin Ladin"? That's because the al-Qaida and Islam attacked us myth no longer is believable and no longer holds water. The FBI announced in 2008 that it could not find anything to connect bin Ladin to 9/11, look at bin Ladin's FBI Ten Most Wanted link, no mention of 9/11.


See I think you have a problem seperating your opinions and facts. For every assumption you made.. there is a counter argument.

Again.. I have come to the conclusion that you and I are not going to be able to discuss this with any realistic outcome.

Have a good day and get ready for WW3 ... Because I am making a wish tonight, to the old man in the clouds... That WW3 will kick off soon.



posted on Aug, 26 2010 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Mobius1974


Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
 
How did you gauge their fear?? Or is there an Israeli leader saying this out loud? Or is this your opinion?

I truely hope one day soon, people on ATS figure out the difference between Opinions and facts...




Why do you think Israel was on it's own when it struck Hezbollah? The West saw it for what it truly was, Israel crying wolf. The lack of US intervention during that period confirms this.

The MSM don't mean jack to me and I do not ever use that controlled medium for info as it is all corrupt.

Out of the top 100 Nations on the planet militarially Israel doesn't even place in the Top 50. The top 10 is as follows :

USA, Russia, China, UK, Saudi Arabia, Australia, India, Brazil, Germany, France.

Get one thing correct, I am not, nor have I ever een Anti Israeli and don't even dare call me Anti American. Anytime someone tries to tell truth about Israel they are automatically labeled as Anti Semetic. I've done way more then you and many people here in serving our nation. I live in Jersey City, NJ the home to The Statue of Liberty and that very beacon doesn't allow me to turn against this nation. Lady Liberty's torch shines bright all day, every day.


Wow.. how do you know what I have done for this country? Your unbelievable!



I had a chance meeting with someone whose connections go straight to Pres. Peres' office as well as to Palestinian Pres. Abass' office in June-July 07 timeframe and I told him to tell them to back down for which they did.


Roflmao... Are you for real? Have you concocted this imaginary view of yourself and your importance in this world? I am no expert.... But I think you should talk to someone about your dilusional thoughts.. You might be a danger to yourself and others around you.. But, again, I am no expert..
It is just my opinion.. I am bright enough to know my opinions are NOT facts!

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What do you not see?
www.fbi.gov...

No connection to 9/11. The reason why most will never know truth is because they are too incompetent to fully understand it.

Think outside of the box that the MSM has created for you and greater truth and understanding of things not previously known will come into view.

Israel does not own this world and neither does any nation for that matter. We are not the pawns of anyone as those days are over and done. The wars over energy are over and done. Next on the dockett with debate scheuled to start in about 3 wks is Clean Energy Independance as most of the issues pertaining to the entire Middle East is oil. Oil is so yesterday. israel also doesn't want the world to get off of our dependance on oil as it means it can no longer leverage the USA or anyone for that matter. This is how things are and will not ever change for anyone. Saudi Arabia as of late is condemming Israel and if you think that Israel can take Saudi Arabia you've got serious mental issues.

[edit on 26-8-2010 by TheImmaculateD1]



posted on Aug, 26 2010 @ 03:30 PM
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Ok so... even after I ask you to ignore me.. You persist.. Ok Ill bite..

His wanted poster NOT saying "911" means exactly what? Anything you say is an assumption.. And that is all, an A-S-S-U-M-P-T-I-O-N.

I have glanced at the posts that you shoved down my throat.....

You make a TON of assumptions and give your opinion ALLOT..

Look I am glad you had this spy meeting and brokered peace in the ME... But I really really really am not interested in your opinions...

You are one of those guys that justify or turn a blind eye to all of the rockets landing in Israel.

So they have not sponsored terror for 2 years? So all should be forgiven?

I bet you fall back on the death count and call Israel a bully.. Just because they have better arms to counter rock/stick and bottle rocket attacks, does not make them wrong..

I bet you say the activists on the ship were unarmed?? They had pipes and knives.....

So when a guy breaks in your house... threatens you with a knife, and you shoot him... Make sure when you call the cops, you tell them he was unarmed!



posted on Aug, 26 2010 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by Mobius1974
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Ok so... even after I ask you to ignore me.. You persist.. Ok Ill bite..

His wanted poster NOT saying "911" means exactly what? Anything you say is an assumption.. And that is all, an A-S-S-U-M-P-T-I-O-N.
--The FBI, US DOJ, US DHS cannot find any definitive proof connecting him to 9/11 or esle it would've been listed.

I have glanced at the posts that you shoved down my throat.....

You make a TON of assumptions and give your opinion ALLOT..

Look I am glad you had this spy meeting and brokered peace in the ME... But I really really really am not interested in your opinions...

You are one of those guys that justify or turn a blind eye to all of the rockets landing in Israel.
--Isreal launched first against Hezbollah and not the other way around without no provocation or clear legally justifiable reason. In The USA those are grounds for international war crimes charges, but since it's Israel they can do whatever they want and not be held accountable for their actions?, Can you say, "Double Standard"? What makes it ok for Israel to do it but the second someone else does they are wrong? Since when does Israel get "special treatment"?

So they have not sponsored terror for 2 years? So all should be forgiven?
-- If Israel doesn't try to usurp and ignore every deal brokered for them then they can be taken seriously. We are currently inside Year 3 of that ceasefire which started circa Sept 07.

I bet you fall back on the death count and call Israel a bully.. Just because they have better arms to counter rock/stick and bottle rocket attacks, does not make them wrong..

I bet you say the activists on the ship were unarmed?? They had pipes and knives.....
So when a guy breaks in your house... threatens you with a knife, and you shoot him... Make sure when you call the cops, you tell them he was unarmed!
--Castle Domain allows me to defend my house, my family with deadly force if nessecary.


Most of Palestine looks like your state of Michigan now. Tel Aviv, Palestine is in no better shape then Detriot is now.



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 07:06 AM
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Call me dilusional...but.... Israel would annhilate the Saudi's in days... You are dilusional.. but that is only my opinion..

First of all Sauidi's dont want Iran to have Nukes either.. Your argument is all opinions and assumptions.. Do you take anything for face value? Some things are only what they appear to be. Not everything is some large web weaved with lies and deceit.

But, through your eyes, everything is NOT what it seems.. Ok ok ok... I am forced to ignore you.. You are not quick up enough to pick up my hints.


[edit on 27-8-2010 by Mobius1974]



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Mobius1974
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Call me dilusional...but.... Israel would annhilate the Saudi's in days... You are dilusional.. but that is only my opinion..

First of all Sauidi's dont want Iran to have Nukes either.. Your argument is all opinions and assumptions.. Do you take anything for face value? Some things are only what they appear to be. Not everything is some large web weaved with lies and deceit.

But, through your eyes, everything is NOT what it seems.. Ok ok ok... I am forced to ignore you.. You are not quick up enough to pick up my hints.


[edit on 27-8-2010 by Mobius1974]


When Russia backed Iran Israel backed down very quickly.

Saudi Military is considerably more powerful, better equipped then Israel will ever be. The Saudi stance on Iran nukes is that they are neutral as they are trying to not get involved.

Where did you get this deluusion that Israel can take on the likes of Saudi Arabia, Russia, China combined? Heck, if Russia and China got together and threatened the US the US would know it's got one heck of a fight coming up to the point where we'd more then likely (80 for/20 against) lose. That is why Israel loves to pick on Palestine for because if they tried to go after Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Jordan Israel will not stand a chance and be taken down in a week.

Israel is only arrogant and act like thier yap don't stink when they know unequivocally that they can bully us stateside around, take US support away and Israel will sing a different tune.

Palestine sends rocks and bottles into Israel and Israel responds with white phosphorus. Those are grounds for International War Crimes violations. Let us never forget that every day for the last decade or so that israel is in direct violation of The Geneva Convention of 1948.

If it was any other nation they'd be demonized and war would come to thier shores but since it's Israel they can do no wrong? I think not! The world is waking up to the fact that the oppressed have become the oppressors.

Also, there was an estimated 32 Million killed by the Nazi's in non military means between 1936 - 1945 so why does the 6 Million Jewish people only matter for? What about the physically and mentally disabled, gays, Arabs, Africans, Orientals, other whites, Indians, Islanders, political dissidents, they don't matter right because they weren't Jewish? If the story of The Holocaust is to be told at least tell it right and correct and make darn sure that Jews weren't the only group slaughtered. Israel made a promise to the world around 1949-1951 which they swore "NEVER AGAIN" since when did that change??

The entire Nazi - Israel deal nowadays is best summed up as Israel is doing to the Palestinians what the Nazi's did to them. I care not for any half arsed excuse that Israel tries to justify time and time again for it's ILLEGEAL OCCUPATION OF PALESTINE.

The truth hurts don't it? Take the rose coloured glasses off and finally wake up to the fact that Israel isn't perfect and they by no definition of the term are innocent. Two wrongs do not make a right.



posted on Sep, 1 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by downtown436
I am really glad that the Iranian reactor is fueled. Maybe, just maybe we can have an end to the seemingly endless barrage of pro-zionist, warmongering propaganda aimed at drumming up support for yet another middle eastern war.


Your an idiot.

"I am really glad that the Iranian reactor is fueled." - downtown436

Are you serious? The circumstances in which we engaged the middle east are wrong but you don't think there is anything behind Ahmadinejad saying they are enriching uranium to weapons grade? I'm not surprised, really have any of you seen the famous youtube video linked here about the woman looking at her sprinklers and saying HAARP is making rainbows closer to ground level? If you haven't seen it you need to watch it now, I'm all for the conspiracy theories but many of you have mental illness that you need checked out. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KILL YOU AND EVERYONE YOU LOVE, And your wishing for these people to have nuclear technology? You people really need to get your head checked.




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