TO all members of the Anti-US crowd

i would like to suggest that its not only the politics of the US, but the general attitude of the country's citizens. stereotypes, as negative as they can be, do not come from nowhere. i have personal opinions on american citizens because over the course of my (quite short) life through travel, and through work, i've spoken to thousands of people from the US. the basic attitudes are pretty much the same across the board. and those attitudes, are not viewed as good, positive or productive by others outside the country looking in.

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I feel so ashamed.

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I'm a fan of Robin Williams, or was at one point.

He would never say anything like what you posted.

I'm calling BS on that.

- Lee

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Nope but whoever came up with it would have my vote for president.

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
Just wait until that very same US government declares martial law and starts bringing "freedom and democracy" to Americans at gun point.

Is this the martial law that Bush was suppose to declare, or the martial law that Obama is suppose to declare? I get confused between the two; could you sort them out for me?

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
When US soil is declared a war zone, and the US military start bombing, shooting, torturing, and plundering American Citizens.

Yeah, because that's what the US Military is all about.

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
America is about to self destruct.
And the entire world will say you deserve every bit of it...........

Keep dreaming.

Originally posted by ker2010
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Nope but whoever came up with it would have my vote for president.

Yeah Snopes says he didn't say it at all.

I knew that there was no possible way he would.
It's not him. The dude is as Left as they come.

Sounds more like O'Reilly, Hannity or some other FOX puppet.
Maybe even a fan of those types of shows.

Snopes - Williams Peace Plan Hoax

I wish people would stop spreading misinformation via chain-mail and attaching celebs to it for public acceptability just to further an agenda.

- Lee

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DrJay1975, once you basicaly understand the United States seeks to dominate our planet both militaristically and ideologicaly your governments actions will begin to make a lot more sense to you.

Just as a side note however, to try and defend the most moraly bankrupt regime to ever ascend over this world in the way you are is beyond ignorance and shows nothing more than utter contempt for what this forum apparently stands for.

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
Holy cow, other countries do bad things, so we should ignore the US doing bad things!

Yeah, but I really don't see too many threads started on anything bad another country does, only the US.

And if they are, somehow it gets twisted around about how the US must be behind it all.

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You are right, DrJay, what you said it true. My wife visits a lot of social sites and of course a lot of Muslim men want to talk to her. All want money, and all want to marry here after a few emails. One even told her that if he could marry and convert an Infidel to Islam, he would then get virgins in his heaven. The Muslim crowd is giving themselves a bad name, just as bad as the names thrown at America. What everyone need to see in the world is that we, individually, have no real choice but to follow what our government says we are doing. It makes no difference what we think, or say. Remember how many people were against the Iraqi War began by GWB after 911? He did it anyway, even though the people were not behind that decision. the Executive Branch has gathered all power of government to itself, period. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rove seen to that, all legal like. This is why we need the The Original 13th Article of Amendment reinstated immediately. From the site:

"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them."


Clearly, the founding fathers saw such a serious threat in "titles of
nobility" and "honors" that anyone receiving them would forfeit their
citizenship. Since the government prohibited "titles of nobility" several
times over four decades, and went through the amending process (even though
"titles of nobility" were already prohibited by the Constitution), it's
obvious that the Amendment carried much more significance for our founding
fathers than is readily apparent today.
www.tomdavisbooks.com...

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Our Masters only have power over us because one, they are attorneys at law, and know how to manipulate the law to their own advantage. Two, because through Corporate Interests, which even run the government and media also run the Central Banking Cartel, with in turn controls the real face value of our money, and taxes us most to death at every opportunity.

America is not the world's police force, nor is it the world's welfare department, or the world's illegal immigrant haven, or the world's enemy. The good companies have all left, driven away by high taxes. I saw this in action in a town in northern Indiana. The town, a corporation, owned most of the real estate property in the town. When a small business came in, and payed for all the permits, license, and stock, the owner had better toe the party line, or the taxes and utility service would go up so high the business is ruined. I saw this again and again as people tried to make it, spent their last dollars on a dream, then the city lawyers just took it away. All of the middle class sold out and Mexican illegals moved in, turning parts of the town into a barrio, complete with stench and trash.

Even the only "other" newspaper was ran out of town, something about kiddy porn on his home computer? Isn't this to standard way of "getting even" with an enemy?

Originally posted by lee anoma

Originally posted by ker2010
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Nope but whoever came up with it would have my vote for president.

Yeah Snopes says he didn't say it at all.

I knew that there was no possible way he would.
It's not him. The dude is as Left as they come.

Sounds more like O'Reilly, Hannity or some other FOX puppet.
Maybe even a fan of those types of shows.

Snopes - Williams Peace Plan Hoax

I wish people would stop spreading misinformation via chain-mail and attaching celebs to it for public acceptability just to further an agenda.

- Lee

Sigh its been out a few years most people know Robin Williams didn't say it but its still referred to as the Robin Williams plan. Sorry you been out of the loop.

Originally posted by Johnze
DrJay1975, once you basicaly understand the United States seeks to dominate our planet both militaristically and ideologicaly your governments actions will begin to make a lot more sense to you.

Oh, really? If we were trying to do that, I think we'd have been doing a better job all these years.

Originally posted by Johnze
Just as a side note however, to try and defend the most moraly bankrupt regime to ever ascend over this world in the way you are is beyond ignorance and shows nothing more than utter contempt for what this forum apparently stands for.

Exaggerate much?

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Yes we want global domination I wonder why we didnt take over Japan and instead rebuild them after WW2. Sounds like they woulda been a good place to start.

Originally posted by ker2010

Sigh its been out a few years most people know Robin Williams didn't say it but its still referred to as the Robin Williams plan. Sorry you been out of the loop.

I see that you are new, but do YOU know that you aren't supposed to knowingly post false information on this site and that it is against T&C?

It doesn't matter if anyone is out of the loop of some common deception, you don't get the right to exploit that fact knowingly.

Posting a quote attributed falsely to someone else knowingly is a sure way to make me question just about everything that you type up and claim it's from a credited source.

Saying "oh everyone knows he didn't say it anyway" isn't good enough.

Don't spread lies.

- Lee

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Is anyone else relishing the delicious irony of a song like this coming from a British citizen? Seems to me that he needs to brush up a little on the history of the British Empire before he blindly rages against America.

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Originally posted by lee anoma

Originally posted by ker2010

Sigh its been out a few years most people know Robin Williams didn't say it but its still referred to as the Robin Williams plan. Sorry you been out of the loop.

I see that you are new, but do YOU know that you aren't supposed to knowingly post false information on this site and that it is against T&C?

It doesn't matter if anyone is out of the loop of some common deception, you don't get the right to exploit that fact knowingly.

Posting a quote attributed falsely to someone else knowingly is a sure way to make me question just about everything that you type up and claim it's from a credited source.

Saying "oh everyone knows he didn't say it anyway" isn't good enough.

Don't spread lies.

- Lee

Oh ok so your being forum police. Anyone who is naive to believe word for word anything in any forum without first looking it up (snopes, google etc. needs to learn everything on the web cant be trusted in the first place.

Common sense dictates you do your own research when something doesnt seem on the fly. Anyways im not gonna let you derail the thread and your not gonna bait me into a argument.

So consider this closed ill no longer respond to you.

[edit on 21-8-2010 by ker2010]

Originally posted by ker2010

Oh ok so your being forum police. Anyone who is naive to believe word for word anything in any forum without first looking it up (snopes, google etc. needs to learn everything on the web cant be trusted in the first place.

This site is strictly moderated for a reason. It's partly why people CAN trust what they read here, but I see you are used to some other type of forum experience.

I guess you'll find that out soon enough.

Common sense dictates you do your own research when something doesn't seem on the fly. Anyways im not gonna let you derail the thread and your not gonna bait me into a argument.

Again, you don't know the rules or etiquette here.

If you are claiming a source stated something as fact you need to provide proof if asked. Otherwise this site as no integrity whatsoever and no matter what people post up, it will all be looked at as nonsense.

You are supposed to provide a source for your posted information, not make us look for it.

Please read through this site more to understand what I mean.

So consider this closed ill no long respond to you.

Okay.

- Lee

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I'll respect my homeland when it starts being truthful, starting mainly with UFO's and the list down. Otherwise, i'm not going to fight for people that lie to keep us, and lets not forget those that are fighting right now, in the dark.

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On the subject of Snopes just so you know
they are usually accurate concerning most hoaxes, but they will twist some political items because they ARE biased, I've caught them numerous times.

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You cannot please all of the people all of the time. People hate the US for butting into other peoples business and say we should do nothing. But, I guarantee that if we instead had an isolationist policy of doing nothing, there would be just as many people (and likely many of the same people), saying that the U.S. is selfish and should do more to help other countries and that we are just hoarding our wealth and power.

Haters gonna hate

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Finally a good post defending America for once. I agree with you 100%. People don't realize how good they have it in America and even though people claim that we are losing our rights we are still the most free country in this world and I've seen no proof to lead me to believe otherwise.

Like I said in one of my previous posts. All governments have their bad apples, ofcourse. But instead of you anti-american foreigners coming on here spewing your rhetoric with no hard facts to back up any of your claims, why don't you focus on fixing your own government first because I'm will to bet you have it A LOT worse off then America.

You guys might not like Americas choice to try and police the world. But think of this for one minute. What if we didn't attempt to police the world? What if we let all these rogue nations go off and do what ever they please? Maybe we would have already had a nuclear war if that was the case. The world is a dangerous place and it needs some authority in the land, don't hate on the Americans because they actually risk their lives for the world rather than taking a back seat like all of your countries do and pretending nothing is wrong till one day you all wake up to a destroyed earth because it, "Just wasn't none of your business."

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