Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not.
That ADHD exists is unequivocal.
That ADHD is over-diagnosed is also unequivocal.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
But if "improvement" means they shut up and sit down and let themselves be indoctrinated, thats no improvement.
Originally posted by intrepid
Sorry Sky. ADHD is very real. It's genetic. My mother has it, I have it
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
my belief moderators were people held to a higher standard, and who understood that part of "Deny Ignorance" (the site's motto) was presenting evidence for any claim made, rather than assuming your own thoughts and opinions were worth the same as scientific investigation.
FredT is a good example. Whenever he presents something or comments on a thread, it is well researched and couched in proper scientific skepticism.
Originally posted by stars15k
I have seen this same logic used on just about every medical issue where clinical observations are used for diagnosis, not laboratory findings. And it's not just with with mental disease. I have two of them, depression and fibromyalgia. Both are very real. Both will forever change my life. Both have been thoroughly bashed by non-medical commentors on various forums.
To make such a blanket claim without medical knowledge is not right. It's mean-spirited and rude.
“We’re bringing up a generation in this country in which you either sit down, shut up and do what you’re told, or you get diagnosed and drugged,” he points out.
Breggin considers the situation to be “a national tragedy.” “To inflict these drugs on the growing brains of infants and children is wrong and abusive,” he contends.
The kids who get drugged are often our best, brightest, most exciting and energetic children, he points out. “In the long run, we are giving children a very bad lesson that drugs are the answer to emotional problems.”
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
It is a neurological disorder, and more a disease/disorder of the mind.
Most girls who have it present with vastly different symptoms than little boys, including daydreaming, scatterbrainedness, messy rooms, disorganization.
There is plenty of evidence stating this disease/disorder is real.
I do not understand how this thread is able to stand with no evidence
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
I stepped into the living room, and she ran and jumped over the back of the sofa, bounced off the sofa cushions, ran into the dining room, leapt upon a chair, and from there to the table top. She ran the length of the table, jumped onto a chair, onto the floor. Poof! She was gone, and as we heard screaming from another room, we dashed into the parents bedroom, where she had evidently pulled a bookcase over on herself, as she was trying to climb it. The parent's were in tears.
So yeah, it's real, and I hope this gives you a mental picture of what it actually looks like.
I know it's hard to be around unruly, challenging kids all day, and yes, some action should be taken to get behaviors under control, so teachers can do their jobs without constant disruptions. We ask far too much of teachers as it is.
In our efforts to get children to behave in the ways we want we utilize methods of control, many of which are culturally condoned forms of violence. Based on our long-standing traditional belief that children are a form of property, we treat them as objects to be manipulated and molded in directions that will be comfortable for us. The strangest and most unrealistic part of our child rearing beliefs is that our antisocial and asocial behavior toward them is supposed to make them into loving social beings. We are unable to recognize that our violence (hitting, which includes spanking), sublimated violence (punishment, which includes isolation and the withdrawal of love and affection}, and parental emotional detachment (discipline), all of which are intrinsic to our child rearing methods, become children's model for future relationships. Our children are chiefly influenced in their development by who we are in relation to them, not by who we think we are or who we pretend to be. Children who are reared in our conventional ways (many of which are identical to the ways convicts, prisoners of war, and slaves have been treated throughout history), learn from the way that they are treated by their parents that it is appropriate to harm other people, to be emotionally detached from the pain of others, and that it is perfectly all right to impose one's will on other people. In short they are instructed, by example, how to be a psychopathic personality or at least to behave as one.
Originally posted by Jezus
He isn't saying the "condition" doesn't exist.
He is saying that it is a natural characteristic of children.
Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
Between all the crap loaded into the "needed' vaccines kids get, and the way the family is in western society tech debt society, and the finishing touches that hollywood smears on it,
is it any wonder?
Originally posted by Annee
I find you to be a very irresponsible poster.
Its obvious you have never dealt with a child that truly does have difficulty under the umbrella ADHD.