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Israel: Iran's Bushehr nuclear plant totally unacceptable

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posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 04:55 PM
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Has it ever dawned on anyone maybe Jeebus would like a nice flat car park to land on? Maybe this is all part of his master plan. Flatten the whole thing and start over. Nothin like haveing one leg of the tripod catching a protrusion while skidding to a halt, that could be disasterous..and right in front of all the cameras too...
ooops
I bet he doesn't want to make that kind of entrance.
So he causes a glass parking lot...it isn't like he hasn't done it before.



[edit on 21-8-2010 by Danbones]




posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 05:08 PM
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Obviously the people here may simply be ignorant of the possible strength of the Israel arsenal.

en.wikipedia.org...

75 to 225 first strike plutonium warheads. 400 or more even from other sources.

You also appear to be unaware of the Samson option.

en.wikipedia.org...

Here's some quotes.


Masada was not an example to follow — it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away--unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans--have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?"[18]

In 2003, Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at Israel’s Hebrew University, thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[19] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying "I consider it all hopeless at this point. ... We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen, before Israel goes under." He quoted General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."

It doesn't matter which part of the world you live in. After several hundred A-bombs go off in the middle east you can kiss the good life goodbye. You don't think they haven't targeted every oil well, port, and pipeline in 1500 miles of them?

In two to five years you will probably will be living in the world of Mad Max. If you don't freeze first.

[edit on 21-8-2010 by ntech]



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 05:08 PM
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Here's a Thought tho.

What if Russia takes and uses the materials they are "lending" to Iran, and Blows something up, and then it's traced back to Iran?

Russian False flag that gets blamed on Iran. In any even there of tho, would be war.

Something to think about, considering we've been seeing a build up of the Russian military beast again.

Hmm



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 05:33 PM
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Totally agree with you. Israel is armed to the teeth with hundreds of city killer nukes. Israel has a population that believes they are at total war with pretty much everybody outside its borders and hated by everybody, indeed the Second World War never really ended for the (European) Jews who settled in Israel and is still being battled to this day. The world is prodding Israel like never before which is very dangerous when you understand what Israel is actually capable of doing to its enemies/Planet Earth



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 05:40 PM
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bring on WWIII.... please. if only to silence all of these idiots and release the taxpayers of America from all $$$ obligations to their useless existence.

sick of the middle east. make it a parking lot. please. now.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 05:50 PM
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I really hope WWIII never happens. I'm not saying that because I'm afraid or paranoid, but I say that out of the undying hope that we will clean up our act.

Millions dying and a bunch of countries being reduced to rubble is not the way we'll sort out our problems.

Having said that, at the moment I can see only two solutions: Massive alien contact (that's real) or a financial crisis breaking/disrupting the hold of the powers that be.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Tarrok
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I really hope WWIII never happens.


Forget WW3 for a moment. For the remnants of European Jewry that decided to make a last stand for their lives in the Holy Land WW2 never actually ended for them. The battle for survival never ended in 1945 and still is being waged today.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Cygnis
Here's a Thought tho.

What if Russia takes and uses the materials they are "lending" to Iran, and Blows something up, and then it's traced back to Iran?

Russian False flag that gets blamed on Iran. In any even there of tho, would be war.

Something to think about, considering we've been seeing a build up of the Russian military beast again.

Hmm


Good heavens! Wash your mouth out! That sort of talk will get you no-where on ATS.

Remember, its only the 'evil' western governments that would ever think of creating a false-flag event. The Russians would never do that....



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Tarrok
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Having said that, at the moment I can see only two solutions: Massive alien contact (that's real)


Totally agree, the only way we as humans are going to survive is by divine intervention from some higher source. We must meditate and pray for this land/second coming as humans can't handle the war technology we have today long term and expect to survive.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 06:15 PM
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Here's scenario:

Israel send nuke missile to Iran's nuclear plant. Russia got pissed because they have few employees in Iran's nuclear planet. Russia send nuke missile to Israel's capital city. US got pissed because they have embassy in Israel's capital city. US send nuke missile to city of Moscow. In the process of sending nuke to Moscow. Kim Jong-il decide to take advantage of the situation in middle east and send nuke missile to Seoul, South Korea. US got pissed and send nuke missile to Pyongyang, but find out that Kim already left the county. US decide to send several nuke missiles to North Korea and obliterate it. Russia got pissed once again for losing Moscow and send nuke missile to Washington D.C. China got pissed because their neighbor got obliterated, then they also send nuke missile to San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle to cripple our economics and pacific marine military. US got pissed once again and send nuke missile to Beijing. Russia decide to send more nuke missiles to elsewhere in US. US decide to send more nuke missiles to Russia's mother nation, too. Europe was sitting duck and hopeful no one notice them, but Russia send nuke missiles to elsewhere in Europe because they are allied with US. Europe got upset and send nuke missile to Russia's mother nation as well. China decide to send several nuke missiles to Japan and obliterate it in fair for US to obliterate their neighbor.

Here's World War III. I guess it's inevitable and billions death foreseen in this scenario.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 06:21 PM
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Well, I was going to reply to this thread, but really have nothing left to say after that post. Bingo. Star. Thanks. Psst, vitch get yerself a cool avatar will ya? Ya been here since 2004!



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 06:42 PM
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Sorry but lots of potential fails here. For one, Russia and the US will never send "a nuke missile" at each other. If it ever gets to THAT point point it would be mulitples of MISSILES.

Another, If Russia nuked Tel Aviv, then Israel would just nuke back Moscow. Israel has second strike capability with their subs as well as ICBMs-they have enough bombs in their arsenal to completely obliterate the country of Russia...though that means Israel too will be obliterated so i dont think Russia wants to go that route.

Another, the US marine bases may well be targets but most of the US's naval assets are at sea thus making them a target more difficult.

Another, US space-based laser weaponry will likely knock down any ICBMs launched at it....as well as fire back high powered lasers at targets around the globe. Nothing is faster than the speed of light.



Originally posted by Aslpride
Here's scenario:

Israel send nuke missile to Iran's nuclear plant. Russia got pissed because they have few employees in Iran's nuclear planet. Russia send nuke missile to Israel's capital city. US got pissed because they have embassy in Israel's capital city. US send nuke missile to city of Moscow. In the process of sending nuke to Moscow. Kim Jong-il decide to take advantage of the situation in middle east and send nuke missile to Seoul, South Korea. US got pissed and send nuke missile to Pyongyang, but find out that Kim already left the county. US decide to send several nuke missiles to North Korea and obliterate it. Russia got pissed once again for losing Moscow and send nuke missile to Washington D.C. China got pissed because their neighbor got obliterated, then they also send nuke missile to San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle to cripple our economics and pacific marine military. US got pissed once again and send nuke missile to Beijing. Russia decide to send more nuke missiles to elsewhere in US. US decide to send more nuke missiles to Russia's mother nation, too. Europe was sitting duck and hopeful no one notice them, but Russia send nuke missiles to elsewhere in Europe because they are allied with US. Europe got upset and send nuke missile to Russia's mother nation as well. China decide to send several nuke missiles to Japan and obliterate it in fair for US to obliterate their neighbor.

Here's World War III. I guess it's inevitable and billions death foreseen in this scenario.


[edit on 21-8-2010 by princeofpeace]

[edit on 21-8-2010 by princeofpeace]



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 06:55 PM
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I do not understand Iran's drive or justification to go to the expence, dangers, reliance on others and hassle of developing nuclear power when they have such an enormous potential to develop all forms of solar power like voltaics, solar ponds, solar furnaces to raise steam to power generators etc. Such a path would gain worldwide respect, develop clean safe technology and make friends not cause strife.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 07:07 PM
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"It is totally unacceptable that a country that blatantly violates decisions of the United Nations Security Council and the International Atomic Energy Agency, and ignores its commitment to the Non-Proliferation Treaty charter, will enjoy the fruits of using nuclear energy,"


I agree with Iran's president on this, it really is unacceptable that Israe-

...Wait, what was that John? Israel said this?


....

What the #?

[edit on 21-8-2010 by SpectreDC]



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 07:09 PM
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Who cares about Israel when Israel doesn't care about anyone else./

Israel needs to show some respect in order to get some, at the current rate we might not see any Zionist Israel in a decade or two/



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 07:47 PM
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Why should Israel give important national security information about their nukes to the Arabs and the U.N. that are always bashing and attacking Israel? You don't just tell people that info unless your like Russia and the U.S. with so many nukes it don't matter one way or the other.

People think Israel has hundreds, maybe more nuclear missiles. What if they come out and say they only have 20? Now the enemies would know how hard they have to hit them to win. Russia would be tempted to taking a chance and thinking they can defeat Israel in a war. If nations like Russia are forced to guess and put Israels nuclear stockpile at a couple of hundred then its just to dangerous for them to try and fight a war with them.

Understand why Israel keeps it a secret now?

Israel has shown today that they will let things slide like this reactor for peace. Israel has also shown that they are responsible with their nukes.

In my opinion Iran is not responsible enough as it supports REAL terrorist. If someone does not destroy their real nuclear weapons and enrichment program we will all suffer.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 07:51 PM
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In my opinion Iran is not responsible enough as it supports REAL terrorist. If someone does not destroy their real nuclear weapons and enrichment program we will all suffer.

Israel and the US too support terrorists, much bigger and dangerous terrorists than Hezbollah or Hamas will ever be.

See PKK, Al-CIAda, Pakistan, Georgia, and about a hundred more in the last 60 years.

The biggest terrorist/dictator funding comes from the US and the concurrence is FAR BEHIND.

And Israel could reveal how many nukes they have, because it doesn't matter since they have second strike capability with their subs.

[edit on 21-8-2010 by Vitchilo]



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 08:57 PM
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Iran doesn't have a nuclear bomb, and even if it did, it is part of the NPT.

Terrorist Israel, however, thinks it is above all international law and has an estimated 200 nuclear warheads which it just can't wait to use.

Of course, no-one knows exactly how many Israel has, because it won't allow anyone to inspect them, UNLIKE all the other NPT countries.

The world is turning against Israel in a big way because of it's duplicity, lies, genocide and love of violence and aggression, as well as it's phoney 'victim' act.

Well done, Israel, you have managed to turn almost the whole of the world against you.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 08:58 PM
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Yes - and I would also say that US/Israel are the greates terrorists in the world.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 09:08 PM
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Why would Israel alone put itself at risk by declaring its nukes, when none of the other countries in the NPT are at risk for doing so?

That's just another Israeli excuse for flouting international law.

Israel doesn't want to join the NPT because it DOESN'T want peace. Given half a chance it would use its nukes on Palestine and it can't wait to nuke Iran - a country which doesn't have a nuke.

Israel won't co-operate with any international treaties, it is one of the most murderous regimes in existence and will not allow its aggression and murder to be reigned in by any agreement. It says one thing and does completely another. It says it wants peace with Palestine but sabotages the peace process again and again.

The thing which puts Israel at risk is its own murderous actions, lies and duplicity and its hatred toward all non Jews.

Israel even spits on its allies - eg. Mossad's use of fake British passports to frame innocent British citizens for the murder in Dubai.



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