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Subliminal Manipulation today. Can you see it?

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posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by Esoteric Teacher
 


Yes, but they must be physically detected.

For example, if I am not able to distinguish the letters from the background the message will be lost.

no matter, you got anchor into your subconsciousness & it can be used for further operations, moreover, it may produce unpredictable directives.




posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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I agree, I was only trying to point that it must be physically detectable, just that.



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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The purpose of "subliminal messages" is for you to not be aware of the message, or it would not be subliminal. Your sub-conscience can identify the message and then store the information.

Now dependent on that message, it can either lay dormant or be revived for the conscience to see the already hidden message. Which is why not knowing that there are potentially dangerous messages being flash before your eyes, can cause problems later.

This is especially dangerous in children.

Peace.



posted on Aug, 27 2010 @ 09:19 PM
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This is especially dangerous in children.

perfectly correct. kid has no workable test of outer info for correctness, & takes any crap like truth -- in consequence, hard mental damages have awful probability to be. in short terms, no tv, no games & sh#t like that for children. one psychologist said very certainly: stomach is more clever than brain -- stomach can vomit.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 01:59 PM
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What a great topic, I learned an awful lot about subliminal messages through this thread as I did not know much about it before. I want to highlight what I thought was most interesting to me. I thought the first video was interesting, I didnt have any prior knowledge to NLP and all that so very cool there. I also took interest in the videos about world wide disinformation campaigns and the subtilities of the magazines including the devil sex and other forms of short messages for the minds eye. I cant wait to go to the book store as now I naturally am curious to find the hidden messages. Again very cool, thanks for all the info.



posted on Aug, 30 2010 @ 12:35 PM
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Subliminal stimuli (pronounced /sʌbˈlɪmɨnəl/, literally "below threshold"), contrary to supraliminal stimuli or "above threshold", are any sensory stimuli below an individual's absolute threshold for conscious perception. Visual stimuli may be quickly flashed before an individual may process them, or flashed and then masked, thereby interrupting the processing. Audio stimuli may be played below audible volumes, similarly masked by other stimuli, or recorded backwards in a process called backmasking. Introduced in 1897, the concept became controversial as "subliminal messages" in 1957 when marketing practitioners claimed its potential use in persuasion. Subsequent scientific research, however, has been unable to replicate most of these marketing claims beyond a mere placebo effect.
source/read more: Wikipedia's Subliminal Stimuli Article



posted on Aug, 30 2010 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
Seriously, I think people are too worried about just one word, "sex".


and as i type these words on the keyboard, i can't help but think there may be sex encrypted or encoded there as well ...




posted on Aug, 30 2010 @ 06:52 PM
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With the current issues with both NLP and subliminal messaging, though it may seem as this is such a simple and easy to remedy type of situation, there is also a bigger picture to why our minds have to first show that this type of programming works.

We are now being conditioned to see life as a movie, a t.v show, the types of programs that help with this the most is "reality t.v". Everyone is hoping for their 15 min of fame, You-tube, Google, etc,. Are showing us that we too can live like a movie.

Even the news can show us, "how REAL this is". We live in a constant state dueling with fantasy and reality, this isn't just t.v. We have video games, and games like "Second Life", World of Warcraft, and first person "shooters", that allow us to feel like where there, with not only visual aides, but headsets so that we can talk to others.


With TPTB in control of the most important and the most dangerous types of programming, this in fact may also be just the beginning in order for them to implement the best NLP/Subliminal project yet.

Here is Project Blue Beam.


The Big Space Show in the Sky
The second step in the NASA Blue Beam Project involves a gigantic 'space show' with three-dimensional optical holograms and sounds, laser projection of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to predominating regional national religious faith. This new 'god's' voice will be speaking in all languages. In order to understand that, we must study various secret services' research done in the last 25 years. The Soviet's have perfected an advanced computer, even exported them, and fed them with the minute physio-psychological particulars based on their studies of the anatomy and electromechanical composition of the human body, and the studies of the electrical, chemical and biological properties of the human brain. These computers were fed, as well, with the languages of all human cultures and their meanings. The dialects of all cultures have been fed into the computers from satellite transmissions. The Soviets began to feed the computers with objective programs like the ones of the new messiah. It also seems that the Soviets - the new world order people - have resorted to suicidal methods with the human society by allocating electronic wavelengths for every person and every society and culture to induce suicidal thoughts if the person doesn't comply with the dictates of the new world order.

There are two different aspects of step two.

The first is the 'space show.' Where does the space show come from? The space show, the holographic images will be used in a simulation of the ending during which all nations will be shown scenes that will be the fulfillment of that which they desire to verify the prophecies and adversary events.

educate-yourself.org...

Of course I do not think that this is going to be believed by everyone, but when you do the math on how many people are asleep, people that cannot distinguish between a character of a movie and a real person. All of the electronic devices today to make us rely on seeing is believing, well its seems alot easier to see that this is a real possibility.

My next couple of posts will be of these amazing images, that today are being seen all around the world, with no explanation, only people who cannot explain, how it happened.

Peace, NRE.



posted on Aug, 30 2010 @ 07:07 PM
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Here are just a few examples of "unexplained" phenomenon, with some "man made stuff".

JESUS CRUCIFIX HOLOGRAM


Water powered dragon hologram


Kate Moss hologram

This was 2006, do you think we've come up with something better since then???

There was a time when people believed certain things because they were taught, as knowledge eventually was allowed to flourish, people began to feel as what they learned did not coincide with what they saw.

Then people began to depend on their eyes, no one wanted to think of ghost, because most didn't see them, people didn't want to believe in angels or demons, because they were not see.

Then people were taught to only believe in what you see, trust your eyes, because they cannot be deceived. Once this became the norm, then people began to realize that a trick of the eye, rather than instinct was easier to control, and thats why we have what we have today.

Its a combination. Of course we cannot always be right... but we cannot always be wrong.

Peace, NRE.



posted on Aug, 30 2010 @ 09:34 PM
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Here is Project Blue Beam.

completely rubbish




The Soviet's have perfected an advanced computer, even exported them, and fed them with the minute physio-psychological particulars based on their studies of the anatomy and electromechanical composition of the human body, and the studies of the electrical, chemical and biological properties of the human brain.

yet another sh!t: no one among humans has so advanced machines in now days
i waaaaaaa..ant thiZzzzzzz cO_omputerrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!




We have video games, and games like "Second Life", World of Warcraft, and first person "shooters",

this is new breathe to moronize & to control people. however, that idea will create strong side effect -- mental disorders shall rise very fast. they're too far from techs to program mad humans



posted on Sep, 2 2010 @ 08:33 PM
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there was this guy (sir) who created and wrote the script for (grew/grown) a television show that was weird (odd) called the Twilight Zone (Dream Land).

another example of neuro linguistics, perhaps:









[edit on 2-9-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]



posted on Sep, 2 2010 @ 09:53 PM
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The best thread that I have seen on this website so far NoRegretsEver. I watched all of the videos in the original post and will try and go through and read every post made in all of the pages. I look forward to learning much more. I have a feeling that every advertisement set before my eyes will endure endless scrutiny now. I am not a person who talks with my hands and I am maybe missing out on some things by not doing this.

Just that two minute interview clip had 30 minutes of analysis. I can only imagine what the other 1,438 minutes of every day contain.

"The world needs a wake up call, gentlemen. We're gonna phone it in." -They Live



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 04:33 AM
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Originally posted by davespanners

Originally posted by wcitizen
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People wouldn't necessarily have to be part of the conspiracy, just afraid of losing their jobs if they speak out.


So what happens if you retire from being a Graphic Designer / TV producer / Film Director and decide to tell all?
Do Glamour magazine send snipers after you?

I thought being a graphic designer was boring up till now, but now I'm looking forward to retirement age, I guess I'll have to start working out so I can outrun Glamour Magazines squad of trained hit men.



[edit on 21-8-2010 by davespanners]


graphic designers know all about it, like a previous poster said, they learn it in college. I learned it in college, and I study physics! Hell, I learned about the alcohol ads in 6th grade science class! The people who do this think there is nothing wrong with it- why would they feel the need to say anything?



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 04:37 AM
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Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
Now here are the videos that our children are watching, mind you a lot of what they see, they cannot comprehend yet. Some of these things are set into their minds and can manifest at a later time.

Here is a video made for kids that has since been banned, but what message do you think children would get from this?

Scariest kids tv show EVER!!


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The Adventures of Mark Twain was most certainly NOT banned. I saw it as a kid, so of course I bought it last year when I saw it in Big Lots for $3. Still creepy1 The scene refers to one of Twain's books- The Mysterious Stranger. Twain was an atheist and thought religion was foolish.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 04:53 AM
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Originally posted by canadiansenior70
I watched the 'newscaster and guest' videos, but only to hear the comments. I was raised to never interrupt, to have back and forth sharing of ideas, so I am repulsed by news people interrupting and will turn off the video.

I've seen it too often.

If I were a guest on a show, and was interrupted so many times, I would say, about the 3rd time, to the effect that," Ï was invited to here to speak my mind, tell my point of view and if you cannot listen and have to hog the show, I will leave", and I would leave if it continued!

I, as well, was aware of subliminal images in ads some years back, with the book mentioned in a previous post. I don't buy magazines and I didn't watch TV ads, as I had a game open on the computer for those breaks. Now I don't even turn on the TV.

I recall buying Zest soap from a TV ad, back in the '60s as my husband left a bathtub ring ( and a sink ring), and there is another product I bought from a TV ad many years ago .....I forget which now.

I recently watched 'Supersize Me', realizing I have not been to MacDonald's in well over 10 years. It grossed me out! but I tested myself, and bought a Big Mac soon after---the taste was so foreign and 'slimy' that I threw the rest away. I did that BEFORE I watch "Food Inc", as what I have heard I know will turn my stomach.

Another thing I noticed, of late, is that I don't see what is going on around me outside, so I am not influenced. I don't stop to smell the roses, and the reason for this is because I am in a wheelchair, and I watch the sidewalk for 'icky' things, such as dog poop and sputum so I can bypass and not get them on my wheels, therefore my hands, therefore track them into my home or other places. I suppose I live in my own world and am not affected by programming! The roses (flowers) hang high on lamposts all over my beautiful City and I cannot wheel along looking up!

I do spend much time online, though, to see what has brought such awful changes in the world I used to know!

[edit on 21-8-2010 by canadiansenior70]


You are living a fuller life than many! I feel sorry for my friends who go from work to the couch, and sit in front of the TV til bedtime. My grandfather stopped watching TV IN THE 80's, except for news and football. It just got to the point where he couldn't stomach the crap they put on.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by drkid
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I had no idea they did not have commercial soundtracks back then. That us pretty cool i learned something new. The thing with these commercials is that they are not only annoying but now they are getting louder than the actual show you are watching.


They figured out that most people leave the room during commercials, to go get snacks or whatever. In Poland, they only play commercials like once an hour, for like 5 minutes, and there is a musical sound and a big word 'REKLAMA' (ADVERTISEMENTS) comes on the screen before the ads. Good looking out, Poland!



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Originally posted by ArMaP

Let me ask you one question, how many languages do you speak and how many do you understand when spoken, at least partially?


in 5 years on ATS, this is the first time i have engaged a mod in real debate on a subject i feel passionatley about.

i never thought it would be a mod i have respect for at the level i have for you. i am going to have to sleep on this, and my response will come later this afternoon more than likely.

before i take a break from posting i would like to answer that one question.

i was raised on english, but polish was also spoken in my grandmother's house on my mother's side. i learned some of it, but am not good enough to form many sentences at all.

i learned some dialects of arabic while spending 44 months in that region of the world during deployements in the last 10 years. i can speak more of it relatively fluently. and am familiar with approximately 3,000 words i think, but unfortunatley different dialects, as my teachers were fellow firefighters from the host nations of Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. similiar but with variations between cultures.

lately i have been studying the individual syllables of english, their meanings and etymological origins, but when i also look at the ancient languages there are similarities in the meanings of the syllables, many times they mean near the exact opposite of the way we interpret them in modern times.

also, i would like to mention that the languages that are of the alphabet (26 letters, or close with similiar construct) also have relations to eachother at the syllable level. i have noticed this frequently in my personal studies over the last few years.

i have delved into Latin, Aramaic, and Sumerian, which has no linguistic affinities, and thus hurts my brain, but i try.

i don't read or write other languages too efficiently in my opinion, but i can speak a little of them, especially the Arabic dialects, and Polish. Latin not so much, yet.

so that is where i am in my personal studies concerning languages other than English, but they are connected, related, in my opinon. observable "coincidences" (for lack of a better word) do seem to exist.

as for the rest of that post, i will return later today.

thanks for this ArMaP, i do appreciate it.

i thinking this dialogue will be fruitfull, and i do like to learn.

i would also like to share that from the ages of 15 to 26 i worked for/with skilled care developmentally dissabled children, aka "profoundly retarded" to use slightly outdated terminology. these children and adults did not have the luxury of speech at their disposal, so i had plenty of years to learn through on job training and experience about natural innocent body language, and their "tells". nonverbal communication is at the very least just as important as the spoken words, ie verbal communication.

i also know a fair deal about handwriting analysis, and what can be statistically determined from an individuals handwriting, and more importantly what can be learned about them from their signature alone. the amount of information a person puts into their signature is almost mindboggling. a lot of variables that mean a lot of things.

my teachers in this were my great uncle who who worked somewhere doing something (sorry), a book he left to my mother that has been out of print for decades, a girlfirend i had who worked in intel, and personal experineces with practicing this with friends and family over the past 21 years.

so as it stands now, there is what i know about language, briefly.

so, honestly, these are the conventional tools i bring to the table in this thread, and it's purpose.

i will be back later today.

thanks ArMaP,
john paul



[edit on 22-8-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]


I lived in Poland for a while. Though the languages are not related, I was surprised at how many Polish words reminded me of Spanish- ja (ya) = yo (both mean "I"), jestes = estas (both mean "you are"), oczy = ojos (eyes), etc.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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Great thread. Thanks for the info. The news reporter is probably an occultist.



posted on Oct, 6 2010 @ 07:04 AM
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I have noticed you end your sentences with "i think" often.

I think.

I thin.

k?

In your picture I noticed you are a little overweight. Could this be a intentional or unintentional process of your subconscious to loose weight?

I have been following this subject line for years, this is quite an interesting thread.



posted on Oct, 6 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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I've tried the a lot of "die its", but no die it seems to work for me


Actually I'm a little overweight, but not too much
. I'm a little more than 5'10, weigh 214 lbs, and am more stout than fat. My waisteline is 34 inches, my bicepts are 18 inches. I have a little bit of a gut, but it's been there for 9 years, whether I run 4 miles a day or not
And being hungry puts me in a bad mood



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