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reply posted on 20-8-2010 @ 09:28 PM by ::.mika.::
Originally posted by Arkady
reply to
post by boondock-saint


Not really. It was just a wierd sensation that somehow he's important.
I don't really know,


he knows more about "being alive" than any of us.

(so important for collective consciousness indeed)

[edit on 20-8-2010 by ::.mika.::]



reply posted on 20-8-2010 @ 10:01 PM by Funshinez
Originally posted by boondock-saint
reply to
post by facelift


I was just thinking how this guy would react
to seeing a computer screen or a cell phone?
I can't imagine being this isolated from society.
And he lives by the rule of the jungle. Survive
or die. Get your own food or you starve.
It's amazing to me

You're so completely retarded to think this person would react to a cell phone any differently from the first time you saw one, and to think you know what life in the jungle is like.


reply posted on 20-8-2010 @ 10:04 PM by ::.mika.::
reply to post by milkmustache



or he sees us as people that are destroying everthing they touch (the forest), that have completely lost touch with Reality and he really and consciously doesn't want to participate to this mess.

you shall think out of the box and not underestimate his intelligence to try to imagine his frame of mind


reply posted on 20-8-2010 @ 10:37 PM by Perseus Apex
reply to post by boondock-saint




Leave him be.
Perhaps he is there for a reason.
Modern society is a failure as it Is.
'Folks' know this though continue to ignore the facts.
Nature is as close to the Creator one could achieve.

Off topic though, so be it: apex


[edit on 20-8-2010 by Perseus Apex]


reply posted on 20-8-2010 @ 10:54 PM by ohsnaptruth
reply to post by boondock-saint



Keeping people so far away from this guy...makes me want to go that much more nearer to him. I want to know his side of the story.


reply posted on 20-8-2010 @ 11:27 PM by Whiffer Nippets
I've often read about isolated peoples, and the concerns of whether they should be left alone or not.

This man is very isolated indeed.

I think - why not try to reach out to him and offer him an alternative life? If he rejects it, fine. (So far there seem to be only chance and violent encounters.)

But the general idea of "leave the natives alone" - even if it comes from the best of intentions - it's still deciding for them.

Maybe they would like to live in "our" world? Let them make the choice.

I read a book recently that was somewhat about the Amish and Mennonite people, and the author, who was one as a child, said they are given a choice in adulthood - to stay or to go. And they do go out into the "world" and know somewhat of it. And then in their adulthood they are asked to make a decision.

The point being is: No one tries to keep them deliberately blind of the world around them. They go out into the world, mix with the world, and when old enough are allowed to make a conscious choice.

I think - the lone native man should have a chance like this too. He's probably far more intelligent than people realize also - and who knows? Maybe he'd like to live differently?

He's a human being and intelligent, I think an effort should be made to get to know him better and offer him the choice of how he would like to live.

In general - the idea that - "we mustn't contaminate the natives" - is in a way, kind of cruel.

What if they would *like* our life but just don't know about it?

And if they choose to live in the wild, so be it. Let it be their choice though.

People imagine all kind of things too - some woman should volunteer to be "ravished" by this man? Was that Boondock Saint who said that?

Well, how do you know? He's probably seen women before. Maybe even mated. Faced with a "Western" woman - he might be afraid. He might be interested in the smell of her hair or the food she brought. He might be a very gentle creature. Might be a psychopath - I'm sure they have them in the jungle too But - you can't really tell until *someone* interacts with this man more. Interesting projection of thoughts anyway

In a way I feel sad for the man. I also feel he should do as he wishes. I also think someone should try to interact with him a bit more. Doesn't mean you have to drag him away from his home or try to "civilize" him. Try to meet on his terms.


reply posted on 21-8-2010 @ 12:06 AM by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by boondock-saint




I wouldn't say he is the most isolated man on the planet, if he was such...We wouldn't have heard of him because no one would know of him. But from reading the story it seems like he is the last surviver of his tribe, so the arrow to the chest of the government official makes sense, most likely his whole tribe has been killed and brutally... by civilized peoples looking to take his tribes land, and he has been pushed in this isolated pocket...I don't think it's by choice, but when people with machine guns and chainsaws kill your whole tribe, I am questing that would make you a little cautious of civilized humans.


It's good that they let him have his little reservation land...Or at least till the land grabbers find a way to get rid of him and grab that land to...As to who ever said that he might like the civilized life...This dude ain't no Amish, I don't think he has a chance at converting to civilized ways, not at 40 years old he is way better of living there, then in civilization. Unless you all think he could get a job. A homeless can't fit in...and they know the languages of the places they are at, and how things work...So what is an naked Indian dude who probably never wore any clothes but some underwear gonna do. No way civilization is a death trap or slavery to him...He has no other options. He would survive in civilization about as long as a regular Joe would survive out in to the middle of the amazon forest, with no clothes and nothing but a knife... hundreds of miles from anywhere. The average Joe would be dead in a couple of weeks at most. Every were you go it's a jungle out there, either a concrete jungle or forestry jungle, and most are adapted to live in one or the other.... In either case when the habitat of the jungle changes... many die, no mater what jungle you live in.


reply posted on 21-8-2010 @ 01:30 AM by mailboxuser2009
Too bad I have found this thread only now.

I am afraid his story is not unique. Many tribes have disappeared since Brazil was first "discovered" by Pedro Cabral in 1500 and eventually many indian tribes were taken down to one last man or so. That doesn't mean isolation whatsoever. He is at home, in such harmony with the Earth that not even the most extreme eco-freak can dream of. While we would not survive a couple of days out there, he manages to live a daily routine without too many problems.

In fact, as the article says, his and all indians major problem is the white man. It has been like this for centuries and even though the FUNAI agents, who were after him only (well, maybe) intended to offer some kind of aid, he is better off left alone.

Even today there are tribes that remain uncontacted by choice. We know very little about them since the only bits of information come from other tribes. We estimate the indian population in the whole country to be around 400.000 people.

As a curiosity info, in the 80's a Xavante indian named Mario Juruna was elected for the deputy chamber. He did a lot to his ethnicity to achieve the legal status of today. But the most notable thing about him was that he would always carry a tape recorder with him in order to register his conversations with his fellow politicians. He used to say, absolutely right in every single aspect, the white man was not to be trusted as they (oops, we) say one thing and do another thing instead. After his term was completed, he was turned down by his own people because he had been too much into our culture and would no longer fit or serve to his tribe. Here is a picture of him with our former president (I hope the link will work in this forum):
independenciasulamericana.com.br...

So leave the lonely indian alone...
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