reply to post by harlan
The Baha'i Faith has no connection to Joseph Smith or the Mormon Church. I know. I became a Baha'i in Salt Lake City. The Baha'i Faith originated
in the Middle East in 1844, the year that the telegraph sent the first message at the speed of light, "What hath God wrought?". In fact the Baha'i
Faith began on the same day in May, 1844. Just a coincidence I'm sure. At that time there was little contact between Persia and the West.
HI Harlan, not sure to believe what you're saying. Surely you know that Joseph Smith is officially considered a "Seer" by Baha'i (a step down
from full-blown "prophet"). When you say "no connection", I'm guessing you're making the statement in an almost legalistic sense, perhaps
arguing that there is little real "evidence" of a connection left, other than dates that match-up, and things that were said by the leaders of these
I don't have any desire to help promote the Baha'i Faith, but for those interested, they can go to bci.org, and find a whole page, from the Baha'i
perspective, on exactly how "connected" Mormonism and Baha'i are.
If the person reading this doesn't know it yet, Baha'i is the most wildly syncretistic "religion" of all time, which basically means that they try
hard to "connect" to ALL major religions, essentially saying they THEY are the answer to Buddhists, and Christians, Jews and Muslims. A tall order
Baha'i looks very much like an intentional creation of the elite. Of course, this might be hard to absolutely "prove", like so many things the
elite are up to, they cover their tracks. But they also make mistakes, and sometimes inconvenient details are left, that at least "point" us in the
Let's look briefly at the genesis of Baha'i, and the constant turmoil that surrounds this cult, through their violent history.
In 1844, a guy named Mirza Ali Muhammed announced that he was the "Gate" (Bab) of God. Yes, same year Joseph Smith died, but let's keep going.
Six years later, the Bab is dead. Before he died, he tapped a Persian NOBLE (imagine that?) named Mirza Yahya. Of course, today's "official"
rewritten history sweeps that under the rug, since Yahya's half-brother Mirza Ali Hussein ended up winning the duel for power.
The "winner" (after mutual attempts to assassinate each other) renames himself Baha'u'llah. He is really the guy who gave Baha'i it's legs,
writing 100 books, etc. Not surprising a "noble" background is played down, but come on, he was an able writer, an excellent leader. Let's face
it, he was one of "them", and was well-equipped for his job.
Predictably, this incredible "Manifestation of God" dies, and still no peaceful transition! It was 1892. He had designated his son, Abdul Baha, to
succeed him, but his brother (yet another "Mizra") challenged him, and of course, more violence, but this time, lots of money was involved too, the
religion had grown.
So, Abdul came out on top, but sure enough, when he died in 1921, more trouble! This is when another big leader arose, the famous Shoghi Effendi, but
if the reader gets a chance to look into it, go ahead and marvel at the man's absolute "power". Certainly more power than the average dictator,
and sort of reminiscent of the power the popes of old had centuries ago, at least within their group. But more than that, as Baha'i began sprouting
it's "globalist agenda" wings.
Today, Baha'i's are actually quite proud of their efforts to bring a One World Government, and One World Religion (theirs), and have bragging rights
when it comes to how the United Nations puts the most promotion behind their religion.
Hmmm. Interesting how Baha'i goals seem to be largely the same as those of our masters. Could it be that Baha'i was intentionally created to help
bring about an eventual "merger" of all religions, under one preposterous big tent, that no one, not even "god" would have the chutzpah to
imagine? Oh, but our masters, they COULD imagine such a monstrosity!
The elite are still working this plan, and I wouldn't want to underestimate Baha'i just because they're so "out there", or because of their very
"human" history, etc. Forget all that. The real problem is that the UN is pushing them TODAY. Yes, they are based in Israel, a supposedly sound
historical reason is conveniently provided, but it sure looks as if they are in a good position to one day play a more critical role than they have so
far. Excellent strategic placement.
How many know that Baha'i's are taught that a man could come among us, and that that man could properly be called "God"? Their theology talks
about a pure "reflection", etc., but the upshot is that they're already well-primed for an "anti-christ" figure to be welcomed, and no doubt they
will call him "God". Danger, Will Robinson!
SO, back to Harlan's claims, and his attempt to shove the "Mormon connection" under the rug. Sure sounds like you would prefer some distance on
this one, at least for this thread. But it also sounds like exactly what Baha'i has always done. Whether it's rewriting history, or distorting the
truth, or mostly just trying to have your cake and eat it too, it's actually a disgusting attitude, in my book. I mean no offense personally here,
of course, but Harlan, your "faith" doesn't have a good track record when it comes to a whole lot of things.
Of course, this statement could apply to most religions, which is fine, but when it comes to Baha'i, I do see something building, growing, it's on
the horizon, and it seems very dangerous for humankind. Worse, it's in "stealth" mode, the danger is literally sneaking up on us.
I'm not a religionist myself, but in this case, I am almost tempted to say, "god help us" if this detestable elite plan should one day succeed.
Certainly, we should worry about our grandchildren having this "religion" forced upon them, because when this one plays all the way out, this
diabolical prison, carefully forged for their minds, will be complete. If this happens this "slave religion" could persist for a millennia, as
humankind groans under it's oppressive weight.
Our masters will laugh at their pathetic slaves, who have all the fight bred out of them, and who no longer can think for themselves anymore.
YES, Baha'i is THAT dangerous.