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Originally posted by ollncasino
Is it not a Generals job to plan wars, not Mosques?
If and when the General becomes president, then we should listen careful.
Until then, he is just one general amongst many with his own personal opinion.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Many in Britain considered it a victory when the burka was outlawed. I could go on and on.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
So, can you explain what the actual harm is in someone thinking they've won some sort of victory?
Originally posted by ollncasino
Is it not a Generals job to plan wars, not Mosques?
If and when the General becomes president, then we should listen careful.
Until then, he is just one general amongst many with his own personal opinion.
Originally posted by Aquarius1
That's right let the powers that be make our decisions for us, after all we are the lowly populace who know nothing, it's always better to let our higher ups do it for us, remember your station in life, that would be at the bottom.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
So to all those people imagining they are being harmed by this, go down to Federal Court and sue for mental aggravation and damages and try to prove where this Mosque and Community Center has diminished your own quality of life, impacted your ability to earn a living, and to be happy and live a quality life.
When you fail to make your case in a court of law, understand that's why you won't be able to make your case outside of a court of law, except with the agenda driven, politically and religious motivated people, who are only harming themselves in imagining that this is harming them in some way.
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by Aquarius1
That's right let the powers that be make our decisions for us, after all we are the lowly populace who know nothing, it's always better to let our higher ups do it for us, remember your station in life, that would be at the bottom.
You can't have it both ways.
You can't expect everyone to defer to the general and ignore the majority of people who oppose the mosque when it suits you then, argue that the people have no power if the 'powers that be' as you put it, then reflect the opinion of the majority and refuse to allow the mosque to be built.
Your logic is heads you win, tails I lose.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
The majority of the people who oppose this community center and even the people who want to put this community center up are either willing or unwilling pawns in a battle between the Zionist neocons and the CFR.
[edit on 8/21/2010 by ~Lucidity]
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Now no, being an American is not about adopting the opinion of the majority.
BEING AN AMERICAN IS ABOUT YOUR RIGHT TO DISSENT TO THE OPINION OF THE MAJORITY
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
So if you want to pretend there is a majority binding in a legal and lawful way, try to get this issue on the ballot in all fifty states to Amment the United States Constitution to strike down freedom of religion.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
In the meantime ALL Americans are entitled to their opinion, and NO Americans opinion is more binding or valid than any other Americans
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
When the majority of Americans in fact want to choose to rely on stereotyping, bigotry and xenophobia to start formulating policies that will destroy the nation's TRUE principles, that's when, and especially when, our very way of life then depends on the dissenters speaking up and out against it.
Originally posted by Aquarius1
reply to post by ollncasino
Who says the majority is against building this Culture Center with a Mosque on the top two floors? Where is your proof that this is the case? I know no one who is against building this.
Originally posted by TrueBrit
reply to post by ollncasino
Not to say that this is the case, but if 70% of americans are rightwing hate addicts, then I sure hope that 70% get the plauge. I cant stand Nazis as it is, let alone Nazis who control the worlds cheeseburger supply.
Are you not displaying as elevated a level of bigotry towards people who disagree with you by accusing them of relying on stereotypes, bigotry and xenophobia?
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
No I am calling it like I see it.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
If you are arguing against an entire religion, then yes that makes you a xenophobe.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
If you are arguing against an entire race, then that makes you a bigot.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
See how that works.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Hold wholesale an entire religion to account for the unproven actions of a few.
Don't think independently.
Don't question.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Some people are going to resist the rise of facism in the nation, and that's just the way it is.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
You can call them Muslim appologists, and you can call them terrorist sympathizers, and while you do, you are in fact proving that yes it's xenophobia and bigorty driving such people who make those accusations against those who are determined to uphold our constitutional principles.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
So in reality all you have is a strawman argument for being a lemming and trying to create a herd mentality that things in mass along emotional and religious lines instead of intellectually with their heads along constitutional lines.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
You fear people, you fear people that think differently and independently and will consider all the facts which is why your whole argument boils down to consider nothing but what you say.