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posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 09:05 AM
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Ok, so I'm currently engaged in a very hot debate with a friend, I don't have time to explain, but if some nice person who has some knowledge in this field could provide me with some links to the best and most solid threads so far that show 9/11 was an inside job. Many, many thanks.

EDIT: Ok, so it's not really that important now, but it would still be great to have a reference to a few of the best 9/11 threads. Thanks.

[edit on 20/8/10 by CHA0S]




posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by CHA0S
Ok, so I'm currently engaged in a very hot debate with a friend, I don't have time to explain, but if some nice person who has some knowledge in this field could provide me with some links to the best and most solid threads so far that show 9/11 was an inside job. Many, many thanks.

EDIT: Ok, so it's not really that important now, but it would still be great to have a reference to a few of the best 9/11 threads. Thanks.

[edit on 20/8/10 by CHA0S]


There is no such thing as "best and most solid links" that show 9/11 was an inside job, becuase each and every single one of them are chock full of innuendo dropping (I.E. Bush's cousin was in charge of WTC security), deliberate misrepresention of the facts (I.E. Silverstein said, "pull it"), and outright lies (I.E. no interceptors were scrambled) so none of them are even trustworthly, let alone "best and most solid". Worse, most of them simply copy each other's bad information almost word for word in hive mentality. No matter which one you pick, others will readily find gaping mistakes in the information they're putting out.

The reason for this is obvious- the conspiracy theorists don't have even a microbe of any tangible proof of any "inside job" conspiracy, so they have to resont to manufacturing their own.

[edit on 20-8-2010 by GoodOlDave]



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by CHA0S
...provide me with some links to the best and most solid threads so far that show 9/11 was an inside job. Many, many thanks.


Why look for links? Make up your own! Even though to the casual eye it may seem that the well of incredulity that makes up 9/11 Conspiracy Theories has been plumbed, there are more incredible 9/11 scenarios that you could come up with!

How about Condie's ex-housekeeper's barber's third cousin was seen in Paducah, Kentucky leaving a Wal-Mart where the ingredients for home-made super-nano-destructo-double-delta-dog-themite could be purchased.

And Bush's experience as an Air National Guard pilot in the mid to late 60's meant he could have - I am NOT speculating, mind you! Professional Pilots never speculate - even though I haven't flown in years - - flown a stealth and invisible cargo plane OVER the WTC and dropped (invisible, of course....who KNOWS what the capabilities of the dastardly evil CIA are!) bags of this home-made super-nano-destructo-double-delta-dog-themite down the chimneys (of COURSE there are chimneys!) of the WTC.

That makes about as much sense as any link you'd get to ANY "inside-job" web site of that book endorsed on the next post.

Knock yourself out.

[edit on 20-8-2010 by trebor451]



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 01:25 PM
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I would recommend reading the book by Webster Griffin Tarpley:

9/11 Synthetic Terror - The Myth of the 21st Century

Editorial Reviews:

"A Slam Dunk" - New York Magazine

A bombshell, brilliant book - I strongly recommend 911 Synthetic Terror. Should be required reading for all honest truth seekers. -- Judy Andreas, Rense.com, March 18, 2006

Can't stop reading; 9/11 Synthetic Terror is brilliantly written. Delivers a devastating judgment. Congratulations! I endorse it wholeheartedly. -- Andreas von Buelow, Author of The CIA and 9/11.

September 11 was the true face of corporatized terror, said Tarpley on the "unanswered questions" of the socalled Official Story. -- Mark Johnson, New York Magazine, March 27, 2006.








www.amazon.com...



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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I would recommend reading the book by Webster Griffin Tarpley
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Sio you are a Larouchite?

Tarpley is a nutball Larouche supporter who sees conspiry in everything

Not relaible source of information......



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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Just read around. There are multiple angles you can come from, all pointing to the same thing.

There were military wargames pre-scheduled for that day, and the days immediately preceding and following it, that included simulations of hijackings and inserting lots of false blips on radar screens. There are infamous transmissions like "Is this real world or exercise?" resulting from this, demonstrating that the air response was confused by this "coincidence."

FEMA was also setting up around WTC7 on the day before 9/11, 9/10, and Rudy Giuliani stated as much to the 9/11 Commission though they excluded it from their final report. They were preparing for another pre-scheduled exercise, this time "TRIPOD II" which was to simulate a bio-terror exercise in Manhattan. When things started happening on 9/11, they already had a base of command set up where federal officials directed the NYPD and FDNY and other emergency services that day.


Show this person/these people videos of WTC7 falling if they've never seen it. Tell them a 3rd skyscraper about half the height of the towers but still a massive building for any city, 47 stories tall, dropped from its roof line into its footprint in about 8 seconds, accelerating at the rate of gravity. If they really understand any mechanics or energy at all then they will instantly understand what that means. This simple, lone fact is why myself and many others are posting here today. It will always speak to reason beyond the heaping mounds of bull crud that "debunkers" mount in defense.


There are so many "odd," "coincidental," "controversial" things about 9/11 it's hard to remember everything that's good to know. Of course there were numerous explosions occurring all morning in all 3 of the WTC skyscrapers, both of the towers and WTC7. These explosions have never been explained. They're hand-waved off by every "debunker" who will automatically assume they were caused by anything, except explosives or bombs. The evidence they base this immediate exclusion on, doesn't exist. It's a feature of their being impossibly opinionated, and most of them seem to have no interest in finding out what was causing all of the explosions either. Also FDNY, NYPD, some FBI officials, civilians, etc. testified to both explosions and explosives/bombs in the building, based on either experiencing an explosion first hand or hearing from someone else on the scene who had.


Many people described an explosion in the basements that either coincided with, or slightly preceded, the plane impacts in WTC1 and to a lesser extent in WTC2. The alleged seismic signal from the "first impact" has been analyzed from multiple sources (for example by ME Gordon Ross and Craig Furlong) and it has been found that the first seismic signal could not have originated from the first plane impact because the times do not match up, and are off by as much as 1/4 of a minute or more. These are sources that are supposed to agree with each other and be synced with the atomic clock that NIST itself maintains. You can look up the two names I mentioned above for all the details on this.


According to officials none of the 4 black boxes (2 per plane) at the WTC site were ever found, even though at least individuals associated with the clean-up and recovery state they saw one of the boxes being recovered and delivered to officials first-hand.

They had video cameras all over the Pentagon and surrounding buildings facing toward the Pentagon, but only released a couple still frames that show nothing.

Like I said, there's so much that I could sit here all day thinking of tidbits like this....

Here are some other places to visit:

Free 9/11 Researcher Starter Pack
20 9/11 Questions Remain Unanswered over 8 Years Later

whatreallyhappened.com...



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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This site has some good evidence and reasonable arguments that you may or may not find useful. I certainly have. www.ae911truth.org...



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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Top Expert comes forth: 9/11 Bldg 7 downed with explosives

Science without math is garbage, NIST.




Not everyone buys the "official story," as you can see, so there's no need to feel pressured by any clear majority if that's how you make up your mind:




And don't listen to the trolls.

There are plenty here, like anywhere. First two responses here apparently too.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 05:50 PM
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40 'Smoking Guns' Collectively Proving That 9/11 Was An Inside Job


try that one by golden fleece

I recommend to check out the Webster Tarply site. That guy has a lot to tell and at least part of what he has told in the past has already happened or in progress.

Tarply.net

[edit on 8/20/2010 by Sinter Klaas]



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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Do what you like about the truther stuff. I personally think it's a load of rubbish, and so do most people without an axe to grind.

Bear in mind that it ticks a lot of boxes for a certain sort of person - it makes them feel special and intelligent. It forms a narrative - and therefore gives some kind of closure to an event they find frightening. And it implicates powerful people, providing a simple and satisfying Manichean answer to something complicated, and allowing them a convenient hate target.

Just be careful, because increasingly it's a magnet for antisemites.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 06:32 PM
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This site is really good.

Good luck! patriotsquestion911.com...



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 06:41 PM
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Webster Tarpley is a fraud. He inveigled the signatures of various prominent anti-war activists on a Truther petition that he assured them was simply a request to impeach Dick Cheney. That's what his ilk survive off - deception.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 06:45 PM
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Just stick to WTC 7.

This is a recent thread which has a great youtube video:

HERE

Personally, the only conspiracy I could think of was the invasion of Iraq. The Bush administration was looking for any excuse to take Saddam out. So they sold America the WMD's are in the North, South, East and West of Iraq.

But anything else, well they have the government on their side. Even if you come up with some evidence they have highly paid scientists on their side.

And we all know you can't go up against science goons.

[edit on 20-8-2010 by Equinox99]



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 06:59 PM
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A Fraud ?

Well could be. What I know is that I read an article from him where he tells about Greece going down more then a year before it actually happened.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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That hardly took a crystal ball.

And so what? There's lots of people who are right about one thing and wrong about a whole host of others. The fact is that taking his work at face value is a dumb thing to do.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
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That hardly took a crystal ball.

And so what? There's lots of people who are right about one thing and wrong about a whole host of others. The fact is that taking his work at face value is a dumb thing to do.


Crystal ball or not, I didn't read or hear it somewhere else.

Why do you assume I would take everything he says for a fact ? Did I say that ? I merely recommended his web site. When people can be right about one thing and wrong on another, why do say he a fraud don't listen to him ? He's also right on occasion. At least once...

I appreciate you telling me he's a fraud.
I didn't know. Your arguments can use a little finesse. They are a little sharp on the edge.

Makes me feel like going in defense mode. Just a little advice.

Deception is not really unfamiliar when it comes to governments. Why is it bad when Tarply does it ? For a good purpose to IMO.

Are there more examples of his fraud going around ?



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 07:58 PM
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Sorry, I didn't mean to be brusque. I wasn't really addressing you, more the OP.

There's a saying about evolutionary socialists - of the last three recessions they've predicted ten of them. It kind of works for people like Tarpley as well.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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No need to apologize, no offense taken


You are probably right, but one out of ten ? Besides I felt like it was a pretty big prediction. Although I don't have anything to compare it with tho.

Thanks.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Trust you ! You look down the threads and see 911 ! Jump in as fast as you can and piss on someones chips ! You are a WanXer GoodOldDave ! And i am sick of your attitude ! If your so blind you dont wanna see then go n live your life ! Forget about it ? Youve made your TINY mind up so live with it ? See Ya ! Yes OP keep looking there are plenty of threads and documentaries that will show that 911 WAS without doubt an INSIDE JOB ! History REPEATS !




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posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by ProRipp
Trust you ! You look down the threads and see 911 ! Jump in as fast as you can and piss on someones chips ! You are a WanXer GoodOldDave ! And i am sick of your attitude ! If your so blind you dont wanna see then go n live your life ! Forget about it ? Youve made your TINY mind up so live with it ? See Ya ! Yes OP keep looking there are plenty of threads and documentaries that will show that 911 WAS without doubt an INSIDE JOB ! History REPEATS !


Now that this tirade has gotten some of your frustration out of your system, perhaps you can point out how even ONE thing I said here was incorrect. After all, if I'm the liar then why are YOU the one being so upset here?




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