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Lawsuit over hospital bill served on paitient in hospital bed...

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posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 05:15 AM
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The lawsuit was dropped by the way, but this is for all those procliaming that our healthcare system is the best in the world....

It sure is probably the most expensive that is for sure...this lady has managed to rack up $350,000 in medical bills since March...I think that works out to about $70,000/month..
and well the hospital wants their money, couldn't even wait for her to get out of the hospital....
this hospital has gotten a bit of bad publicity of late anyways for going after those who are poor for the bills to be paid...so well, when this started getting out, they quickly dropped the lawsuit, for now....
but, well, they reserve the right to open it back up later, once she leaves the hospital...



"It is not our practice to serve patients with any type of collection notice while they are still hospitalized," Carilion spokesman Eric Earnhart wrote in an e-mail. "This was a unique situation, and unfortunately I am unable to provide you with additional details. The purpose of the suit was to find additional information -- it has since been withdrawn."
www.roanoke.com...


oh ya, we all have a couple hundred thousand dollars laying around in case we get ill, just so the hospital can have their money now!!
this hospital, I know because it's the chain my insurance forces me to go to, won't make payment arrangements they will just refer your account to a collection agency after a month or two or maybe it's three...
they encourage you to get one of these....

www.medkeyinc.com...

so, I wonder, what would the yearly interest on $350,000 by at 5.99% interest???

oh...never mind...lol!!! it's more than I make a year!!! did the math twice...it's more than I make a year!! heck even with my insurance, it would cost me over $100,00 for this.....I think that interest would be close to half my salary!!!

one of my coworkers walked out of the hospital about a week ago, against the doctor's orders...they think he has appendicitis.....
I got a feeling this is why!!!



if this is the best we can do, then well,
we are indeed a pathetic bunch!



[edit on 20-8-2010 by dawnstar]




posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 05:21 AM
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i think it's sick that people have to pay to stay alive these days in any developed country.
after our NHS (which is buckling under the population) i believe france has the best healthcare.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 05:27 AM
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New Zealand has the best health care on the planet.

You go to hospital and you get the very best treatment - all for free.

And that is how is should be worldwide.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 05:31 AM
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world health organization says that it's france.
thats down to average lifespan, percentage of people covered, quality of care and it's all free in france too.

it's free in the uk too with the nhs but it's like waiting for a train that might never come.

[edit on 20-8-2010 by listerofsmeg]



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 05:35 AM
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That is probably because they haven't noticed NZ - we are a very small country.

But congratulations, France!



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 05:42 AM
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...The crazy thing is if anyone mentions that the medicare should be covered under a welfare system then everyone cries out 'Socialism' blah blah blah...

What does America actually want????

I would really like to know? The UK NHS is not great BUT it does assist those who really need it and dont mind about NOT having the best - youre ALIVE at least.

Want the cake and eat yet again????



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 05:53 AM
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Yeah it sucks. And it's not going to get better anytime soon

Not even with the "OBAMAcare".
The social-democrasies are cutting back.

The US is chasing the tail of a dog that's proven itself to NOT be sufficient.

A day late and a dolla.r short.

Thanks 80's guys, and thanks y'all still hooked on the "60's.

It's time for a real revolution,

too bad, y'sll played the games of the early 20th century. Those days are long gone



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 10:58 AM
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It took me a while to get used to paying for healthcare here in the USA after having been raised on the NHS. I have never had any problems with NHS myself and neither has my dad, who got cancer a few years ago and made a full recovery and didn't have to pay a penny.
I think its crazy that people have to choose between health and a house in any developed country, especially the United States.

I have also found that treatment here goes straight to drugs, rather than counseling or alternative therapies - its stopped me going because why would I pay to see a doctor who will tell me to take pills (all information readily found on the internet - for free), hence why Is topped going to the doctor.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by catwhoknows
reply to post by listerofsmeg
 


New Zealand has the best health care on the planet.

You go to hospital and you get the very best treatment - all for free.

And that is how is should be worldwide.



Population of New Zeland =4,388,678
Population of United State=310,034,000

New Zeland is an Island country.They don't have the constant influx of illegals utilizing their health care system.The difference like night and day.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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they also don't have as much money and oil being pumped into the country to finance it.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by listerofsmeg
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they also don't have as much money and oil being pumped into the country to finance it.

Well we live in a capitalist society. The majority of the money you speak of is held by corporations, not the Government. The Government already provides billion upon billions of dollars for countless public programs. Plus we just got Nation health care.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Health care is not free anywhere. You may not pay out of pocket but you pay it in taxes. You just don't see it as paying for it because you never see the money. To consider it free is the same mentality as saying you don't pay taxes because they come out of you before you get a chance to see it in your bank account. My big problem with the health care bill is that it increased inefficiencies into an already inefficient system. What it is going to do is guarantee health insurance companies a captive market and still not provide us with an adequate system. By the way, you pay for primary care in NZ and non emergency surgeries may take months to years to receive. Costa Rica has a "free" system also. You just pay 15% of your wages for it.


Originally posted by catwhoknows
reply to post by listerofsmeg
 


New Zealand has the best health care on the planet.

You go to hospital and you get the very best treatment - all for free.

And that is how is should be worldwide.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Why do you guys with single payer systems insist you don't pay for health care? Of course you do. It's called taxes. The difference between our system and the NHS is that I pay for my own care and you pay for yours. I don't pay for yours and you don't pay for mine. Costa Ricans get free medical care also. They just pay 15% of income for it. Any single payer health care system that depends on taxes is redistributive by definition. Now we may choose to argue about the relative merits of both but there ain't no free lunch. The NHS is actually a fairly complicated system with several classes of payment levels depending on income and various other parameters. What really bugs me in the US, which is where I live, is the relative % of health care costs based on GDP. We spend more as a %centage of GDP than any other developed nation. The closest to us in 2007 was France which spent 11% where we spent 16%. We have yet to address the reasons for the disparity in the costs of medical care here. I read somewhere that the average primary care physician in Germany makes around *)k per year. Of course you can't sue for malpractice in most countries with NHS, including NZ. Malpractice insurance is high as hell here. I don't have any answers but I dont think we've asked the right questions yet. I just had a procedure that the medicare rate was around 25K and the insurance company rate was around 90k. I paid it out of pocket. Some hospitals and physicians will work with you some won't. We haven't even begin to look at the reasons for the high cost of health care here. By the way, treatment anywhere goes straight ot drugs and surgery. That's allopathic medicine.


Originally posted by quantumgirl11
It took me a while to get used to paying for healthcare here in the USA after having been raised on the NHS. I have never had any problems with NHS myself and neither has my dad, who got cancer a few years ago and made a full recovery and didn't have to pay a penny.
I think its crazy that people have to choose between health and a house in any developed country, especially the United States.

I have also found that treatment here goes straight to drugs, rather than counseling or alternative therapies - its stopped me going because why would I pay to see a doctor who will tell me to take pills (all information readily found on the internet - for free), hence why Is topped going to the doctor.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 03:03 PM
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they want super profits, and well, enough people able to pay the outrageous fees to get those super profits, and, they want the taxpayers to pay to make sure, the doctors and nurses are trained, the medical research is state of the art, and the hospitals are equipped with the very best, and they have enough patients to keep them busy!

anyone in the US who thinks that they aren't being taxes for our healthcare system is nuts...the only difference between us and the rest of the world, is that you could find yourself being taxed to death to support a system you find yourself being denied by.....






[edit on 20-8-2010 by dawnstar]



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