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Age Confirmed for 'Eve,' Mother of All Humans

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posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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"""A maternal ancestor to all living humans called mitochondrial Eve likely lived about 200,000 years ago, at roughly the same time anatomically modern humans are believed to have emerged,A maternal ancestor to all living humans called mitochondrial Eve likely lived about 200,000 years ago, at roughly the same time anatomically modern humans are believed to have emerged,"""

It appears that this so called scientific discovery is actually a religious statement.

Likely is not science nor is are believed.

Science does not work on likely. It is likely that sodium and chloride will make salt it is believed.....

Facts testable and repeatable are science; should have, could have, might have, we believe, likely, ECT ECT are religious statement.




posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by canderson180
Anyone know of any major events or ancient references from 200,000 to 150,000 years ago?


Good question. Quick search results:




Human Species Almost Extinct 70,000 Years Ago - A Galaxy Insight

"Who would have thought that as recently as 70,000 years ago, extremes of climate had reduced our population to such small numbers that we were on the very edge of extinction."

The human population at that time was reduced to small isolated groups in Africa, apparently because of drought, according to an analysis by researchers at Stanford University. The estimated the number of early humans may have shrunk as low as 2,000 before numbers began to expand again in the early Stone Age. Previous studies using mitochondrial DNA - which is passed down through mothers - have traced modern humans to a single "mitochondrial Eve," who lived in Africa about 200,000 years ago.




Climate change and drought are not as exciting as asteroids and ELE's - but could it be true???


ED to add. ...And on ATS:



...The extremely interesting and thought provoking premise of this article was that at some point during a period of approximately 123,000 to 195,000 years ago, the total estimated population size of more than 10,000 breeding individuals crashed to at most just a few hundred ... at which point Homo Sapiens became an endangered species and teetered on the brink of extinction.

...Additional support for this population crash is also evident in the fact that humans today exhibit very low genetic diversity when compared against many other species having much smaller population sizes and geographic ranges. This phenomenon is best explained by the occurrence of a population crash amongst the emerging Homo Sapiens.

When Humans Almost Became Extinct !




So we're looking at 2 near extinctions, both related to climate change: one 70,000 years ago, the other between 123,000 to 195,000 years ago.


Interesting...






[edit on 19-8-2010 by soficrow]



posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by ACTS 2:38, paraphrased and grammar corrected by m0r1arty

'Likely' is not science, nor is 'believed'.



I think you'll find that science is a constantly evolving understanding of the universe based on the evidence available at the time. It is always casting light were there once was dark and removing the impossible from the possible.

It was once 'believed' by some scientists that air, fire, water and earth made up all components of matter.

It's currently thought that a lizard being born by a human is not 'likely' - but no scientist worth their weight in any substance would say it's impossible given any circumstance.

A reptile being born of a mammal isn't something we see every (or indeed any) day - but certain marsupials show us that stranger things have happened in nature - perhaps one day, for whatever reason, we'll see huge leaps of understanding which may make it possible, if still not fashionable, for a human to nurture something other than a human to life.

I'd say the difference between science and religion is that one adapts quickly and changes given it's understanding of the current environment and the other stays staunch and ignores the inevitable winds of change and the fruits, and dangers, it brings.

Ra is gone yet canals still carry ships.

I know which side of the fence I'm on, and god(s) is not here.

-m0r



posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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Damn little Hera always running off Boomer needs a leash for her



posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 02:30 PM
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This is cool. Very cool.

But keep in mind there are some "creationists" that don't subscribe to the 6000 year old Earth thoughts or insert your own amount of years here.



posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by canderson180
I'm surprised this is just seeing the light of day. A quick wiki source would show that scientists were looking at this theory as far back as 1988 (from what I found).



National Georgraphic Magazine has documented this more than once. The Quest for "Adam" and "Human Journey,Human Origins" and the issue on Mitochonrial Eve and also the magazine Science News. There's probably more that have discussed the origins of life out of Africa.



posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by ACTS 2:38
"""A maternal ancestor to all living humans called mitochondrial Eve likely lived about 200,000 years ago, at roughly the same time anatomically modern humans are believed to have emerged,A maternal ancestor to all living humans called mitochondrial Eve likely lived about 200,000 years ago, at roughly the same time anatomically modern humans are believed to have emerged,"""

It appears that this so called scientific discovery is actually a religious statement.

Likely is not science nor is are believed.

Science does not work on likely. It is likely that sodium and chloride will make salt it is believed.....

Facts testable and repeatable are science; should have, could have, might have, we believe, likely, ECT ECT are religious statement.


Nothing to do with religion, but everything to do with DNA.



posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 03:30 PM
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You know pondering this some.

This means that we all an ancester in common. Which could prove the story of Adam & Eve true.

The bible is very allegorical. And the whole Adam & Eve story could be based on something that happened some time in the past.

Who knows. Maybe Aliens put us here as a grand experiment. Ala Deepthought.



posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by grey580

A pretty crazy notion. Makes me wonder what she looked like. And in that time we've mutated enough to be the different races.



I'd say it's more likeley there were many "Eve's" and we are becoming one race rather than starting as one and mutating into many.

Ultimately, won't there be such diversity in human genes that it would be almost impossible to pinpoint someone's race by their appearance alone.

Interesting stuff tho.



posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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So, 200,000 years ago this woman was born with a very interesting mutation, her skull had evolved into a shape that allowed her brain to form into the shape ours are now. That means she must have had the intelligence and awareness similar to that of a modern day human in 2010. She would have probably been considered a genius when compared to her mother, father, and the rest of her tribe. Our bone structure has not changed much or at all since her. She would have stood a little straighter than her peers as her back was more erect than theirs. Her head shape, body posture, and intellect would have been noticed by everyone around. But, if she was the first of the Homo sapiens, then what species were her mother, father, and tribe?

This Mitochondrial Eve's mother, father, and tribe probably would have been the species Homo heidelbergensis. This species would be our direct ancestor, and the direct ancestor of Homo neanderthalensis. Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalensis would have been the pitch fork in the road for the Homo lineage of animals. This is where our species splits. Homo neanderthalensis would have evolved from the Homo heidelbergensis in the Europe and Russia, and Homo sapiens would have evolved from this Mitochondrial Eve in Africa around the same time.

The gene(s) that made her human and set her apart from her tribe would have probably been highly sought after from the Homo heidelbergensis males. She could have started multiple lineages of modern day Homo sapiens. The gene(s) for human sapiens must have been very Dominate over the now recessive gene(s) of Homo heidelbergensis. After all, adapting and evolving into the better and more perfect species is the Dominate trait in all living things because the more adaptable the species is to its environment and resources the more likely it is to survive. The one trait that seems to always help solve the everyday problems with gathering resources and the changing of the environment is smarts. The genes allowing intelligence to increase always prevail and get past down the line creating a new species.

Once Homo sapiens migrated out of Africa by following the Nile River to the Mediterranean Sea, or by crossing the Horn of Africa into Asia, they systematically hunted and killed the species Homo neanderthalensis because they were different and were our main competitors to the resources we needed to survive. Our Homo sapien ancestors managed to bring the Homo neanderthalensis to extinction because our intelligent and awareness allowed us to create better weapons and language to fight them to conquer the planet. We are the most intelligent species left on the planet. The last 30,000 to 50,000 years we have been the prime creature on the planet without a predator capable of destroying our species. This would explain how we have blossomed in all environments around the globe.

When will the next mutation be? Our jaw is already getting smaller as our wisdom teeth are falling out in order to create more room in our skulls for our ever growing brain. Are the elite/TPTB this mutation?

[edit on 19-8-2010 by tooo many pills]



posted on Aug, 22 2010 @ 11:29 PM
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I hate it when I kill threads.

Sew me up Doc.




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