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Originally posted by caucazoid69
reply to post by MilzGatez
Ohhh, I get it now... hispanic gangbangers or homies (is that how you spell it?) are the defining authority on the use of the word N*gge* and any variation of it? Are you kidding me?
Since when do Hispanics lump themselves into the same disenfranchised class as Blacks? Wait, let me guess. Because hispanics are "minorities", and I use that term loosely, they can now "relate" with Black people and how they feel when someone calls them a n****r.. Did I get it right? because the White man is holding everybody down, we're the only group who CAN'T say n****r?
Can we at least say, in your words, "NIGGA"?
But wait, I'm still confused.. Dr. Laura is Jewish (you know, the most heavily persecuted group of people on the planet), doesn't this now give her full access to our little word? after all, her people have been held down and even almost annihilated. Seems to me, if any group of people had a right to call another group of people anything they wanted to, it would be the Jewish people....
Originally posted by caucazoid69
reply to post by MilzGatez
Just for the record, I married a Hispanic woman, who grew up with very little... take a guess how she greets people..
Hello Sir, hello ma'am.... no insults, no innuendos, just "Hello"... but now that we're in Texas, it's "Howdy"....
Originally posted by caucazoid69
reply to post by MilzGatez
Obviously your disgruntled by your own heritage. So sad. I do hope that your people find your own culture and stop latching on to the easy out. But we are drifting off topic. I support Dr. Laura and her bravery to say what needed to be said. Surely even you, a first or second year community college student, can agree with that. Try to drop the ghetto lingo and you might be able to fool your way into a real intellectual conversation. Peace be with you
Originally posted by nh_ee
Dr. Laura is a phony/fake/fraud
Dr. Laura is a Fraud, for in actuality, she is NOT even a Psychologist but holds a PhD in Physiology.
A degree which has nothing to do with human interpersonal relations.
No wonder she responded as she did , perhaps it was PMS talking ?
I was fortunate enough to have had a Black roomate in college.
We used to get into these discussions over a bowl....or two of ....
kellogs cornflakes ...yeah, thats the ticket !
From the way in which it was conveyed to me....
The historical significance and origination of the N word going back to the days of Slavery has much to do with the word's offensive nature when used by White Slave Owners towards Blacks.
This originates from the days of servitude where the Master used the N Word in a denigrating manner instead of using the individuals name AND also as to why Blacks are also offended by the term "Boy" when used by Whites for the same historical reasons.
This originated amongst southern Blacks and has since transcended into Black culture, who use the term albeit in a non complimentary fashion.
The term "RedNeck" , though derogatory, was more descriptive of a class of White person, who worked in the fields, (and hence the physiological descriptive terminology) alongside Blacks in the fields.
This of course being in contrast to the Whites who were Land and Slave owners.
I learned this in College where I lived in a dormitory amongst many different people. Whites, Blacks, Jews and even Iranians (who are not all devout muslims btw).
I didn't realize it at the time but it really opened my then ignorant eyes as to how similar we really are.
In retrospect it was an excellent AND educational experience that I will forever cherish.
Peace.
Originally posted by MrWendal
Sorry but Dr. Laura is correct on this issue. You can watch any black comedian and hear the N word used repeatedly. Why is it ok for a black man to call another black man the N Word, than get so upset if a white man uses the same word in the same context?
Originally posted by intrepid
It's not imo. It's a useless word who's time has passed. I can't for the life of me figure out why Blacks use that term. ESPECIALLY those in the entertainment business.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
To me a word is a word and should never be off the table. All words should be available to all people, it is the intent which makes them bad.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
To me a word is a word and should never be off the table. All words should be available to all people, it is the intent which makes them bad.
Yes, I'm a fan of Carlin too and remember this routine well. One of the few times I disagreed with what he said.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
I wasn't actually quoting Carlin and i don't believe i've seen that show or at least i don't remember it. Seems unfair to disregard my opinion just because someone else has said something similar.
Why exactly do you disagree with it? I only ask because then i can actually respond with some kind of substance, thanks.
Originally posted by intrepid
There are some words, this is one of them, where the intent comes with the package. It's a racial epithet.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Originally posted by intrepid
There are some words, this is one of them, where the intent comes with the package. It's a racial epithet.
Hang on a moment. One of my very best friends is black, he and i often use such words, to us we are laughing at the racists themselves. This has caused trouble, i have had guys march across a pub intent on beating the hell out of me because i've used the n word and my friend has had to calm them down.
The word does not have intent, it's a ridiculous idea and the moment you say it cannot be used you give it power.