Doing Bar Tricks = GO TO JAIL FOR 45 YEARS!

reply to post by Exuberant1


Have you been to Detroit? Might I suggest you go there and don't stick around downtown but in fact go to the neighborhoods in the city. You will see what Anarchy really looks like.

I worked there for over a year before I finally got transferred out to a slightly better place. Basically there is no law enforcement whatsoever. Most people don't even bother to call the police if something happens because the police won't show up anyway. Many of the cops are just on the take anyway and rather than doing anything will take a bribe or are busy ripping off the city.

What government there is, is completely and totally corrupt, the city council even goes in armed because of the state of the city.

Our Anarchist friend's paradise!

Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by incarnating

I cannot accept the law if this happens ... >_>

Oh but you will....

.....They always do.



*Besides what are you gonna do about it? make a sign and walk around with it?


That always works. Saved Iraq from invasion it did.

Well, first I don't live in america. And secondly, like all of you, I'm too coward to take a sign and protest, altho we seem to live in a democracy.
But wouldn't we all feel bad if we hadn't even tried? You can blame the state if you tried. If you didn't, blame yourself.

reply to post by whatukno


And how did Detroit get that way? (e.g. looking like something from the Soviet Union)

Statists and socialists is how.

Failed central planning is how.

Overpaid Bureaucrats running amok is how.

What you are seeing is the end result of government interference in the free market and with society.

reply to post by Exuberant1


Any way it happens, Detroit now exists as a shining example of what the OP would like to see the rest of America to look like. An Anarchic paradise.

Originally posted by incarnating
And secondly, like all of you, I'm too coward to take a sign and protest, altho we seem to live in a democracy.
But wouldn't we all feel bad if we hadn't even tried? You can blame the state if you tried. If you didn't, blame yourself.

Protesting with cardboard signs and slogans is an act of futility. It usually always is and almost everyone knows this.

That means anyone making signs and protesting that way knows they won't make any progress even before they start. If you set out to fail and succeed, what have you done? Eh?

So you are right, in a sense; such people can blame themselves for being stupid and willfully engaging in acts of futility.


Besides protesting is dangerous. For touting that sign you could be beaten, tortured and assaulted with chemicals or electricity, imprisoned, have your butt searched and maybe even get killed. Your cowardice may have saved you a great deal of trouble.

amirite?

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

Any way it happens, Detroit now exists as a shining example of what the OP would like to see the rest of America to look like. An Anarchic paradise.

I don't know about that.

It is more an example of the results of bureaucratic anarchy and socialists run amok. *Note how it looks like something old Soviet Union.

reply to post by Exuberant1


Actually it looks more like the remains of a shelled out warzone, but that would be quibbling on details.

But it is what the OP wants, no government intervention in your life unless you want it. Hell, do you think they actually force anyone to pay taxes? Our OP friend could go into the most prominent industry in Detroit, make himself a good living and never pay a dime in taxes. I mean these guys were making 1 to 3 million a day! TAX FREE!

[edit on 8/19/2010 by whatukno]

reply to post by Exuberant1


Simple logic:
If we don't have any hope, we're all doomed (unlikely)
If there's something we can do, do something about it or die like a coward, just how they want it.

End of transmission.

So could I get 45 years for saying "pick a card" to the girl I am trying to pick up or if I do an impromptu fire-spitting routine that causes her chemically treated hair to go up like a matchstick dipped in gasoline and burn down the whole bar?

I'm thinking I understand what the potential threat is and it seems a bit more specific than "doing tricks".

- Lee

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

But it is what the OP wants, no government intervention in your life unless you want it. Hell, do you think they actually force anyone to pay taxes? Our OP friend could go into the most prominent industry in Detroit, make himself a good living and never pay a dime in taxes.

You are acting like a government not forcing its way into individual's lives is a bad thing. Okay there.

And please don't pretend that individuals and businesses are not forced to pay taxes. If they don't pay taxes on their earnings force will be used against them.

reply to post by Exuberant1


See, now you are the one purposely lying. Your putting words in my mouth. I am trying to give the OP what he wants and dreams of, and you are trying to wreck that dream.

I see how it is.

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

I am trying to give the OP what he wants and dreams of, and you are trying to wreck that dream.

I see how it is.

You don't make sense.

reply to post by Exuberant1


The OP wants to live in an anarchist society, I am trying to give him an option, something that would fit his preferred lifestyle. I suggested Detroit because it's pretty much exactly what he is looking for.

I try and help and what do I get? Shesh Oh Pete!

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

The OP wants to live in an anarchist society...

Over and Over again, you keep saying that.

It is as if you think berating your audience like they are fools who cannot remember you already said that will help your case.

*Why not say it once more, seeing as how mnemeth1 is offline and whatnot.



[edit on 19-8-2010 by Exuberant1]

I KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS!!!!!

Let's ban alcohol!

The first recorded crime:
1 law
2 citizens
1 policeman (God)

He failed.

To make up for this, we reckon we'll make our own god (the state), create 70 000 laws per year, and have lotsa cops running around enforcing those they think are worth their time.

That'll fix EVERYTHING. Won't it?

I dont know about anyone else, but i would be amused by the fire breathing and if I thought it was dangerous I could ecuse my self from that establishment and go somewere else.

I am sorry for the many that died in tragic accidents, that led to laws as this to be inacted, but then again those people willingly made a choice to watch a potentialy dangerous event.

It is like going to the local races, wich I enjoy watching. I know full and well when I pay my $7 to get in I could be paying for my own death. Those cars are racing and could come right up over the small concrte wall and through the fence and kill a dozen people including myself.

I agree with the OP, why does the government have to micro manage our lives.

I know going into a bar is dangerous without fire breathing. alcohol is a violent drug for some people.

I know I think we should all were monitering devices, and have to report were we are going and when. When we get up and go to bed.

The government is insane and In need of a real overhaul, that is dropping about 90% of its capablities and letting us unworthy regular citizens make choices for ourselves, be they dangerous or not.

reply to post by humbleseeker


I know, it's every bartenders god given right to burn down the bar and put patrons lives in danger over stupid stunts.

How dare the government want to protect lives and property!

The nerve!

reply to post by whatukno


Typical marxist thoughtless yet impassioned rhetoric.

It's the current re-emmergence of marxist philosophy that has created this problem, yet you not only believe, but try persuade others that the solution is in fact: more marxism.

You're 100 years too late friend. Both marxism and capitalism have failed. Anarchy is the next logical progression, and after that, when the smoke clears, humanism will eventually make a stand. Something that none of today's political offerings know anything about.

reply to post by harryhaller


Like I said, take a trip around the neighborhoods of Detroit at night see what anarchy gets you. I hope you have fun with that.

BTW once again, the avatar is an ironic slight against all those stupid Obama Marxist avatars. If you don't understand irony, might I suggest looking it up. It might help your sense of humor.

If you want to explore The Marx Brothers, you might actually learn something, BTW, the guy in my Avatar is Groucho Marx.

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by humbleseeker

 

I know, it's every bartenders god given right to burn down the bar and put patrons lives in danger over stupid stunts.

How dare the government want to protect lives and property!

The nerve!

The governmnet does have a right to protect lives and property, I agree with you. But on a limited basis, we do not need the government micro managing every little thing.

Maybe in a faccist Marxist state like you would desire this seems like a rational form of government operation to control the runnings of the people

I believe that grown adults, have the right and should have the freedom to put themselves in a potentially dangerous situation, if they wish. I am not saying that fire tricks are not dangerous, most certainly they are. The point is if you dont like it leave.

Its like smoking in bars, I dont know of any state that allows it anymore. The law is creaping into every area of our peronal lives, and while a marxist may think its a great idea. A man who wants to be free does not.

I do not condone anarchy as the OP might. Although I feel we only need basic laws, Dont steal, dont kill, and dont willingly hurt one another.